When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do?

oloriooko:
When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do?

is it compulsory to remain in that church ? Did the bible encourage such behavior ? Why do you guys always bring irrelevant topics here ? You are not a kid, you know what to do.

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I know thread like this will not make front page, so let me use this opportunity to pass it here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2552255/god-love-innocent-wouldnt-suffer

If God eradicated everyone who has ever
caused pain by selfishness, cheating, lying,
gossiping or hurtful
remarks, who would be left? People say,
"Suffering is God's fault!", In other words,if we
disobey God,it's God's fault?
conveniently forgetting times our own anger,
greed and lies hurt others. To wipe out some
people who cause suffering, and spare you and
me, would make God guilty of gross injustice.
We have each added to humanity's shame.
If there is a God of love, the people he loves
and longs to place in a pain-free world are the
very ones who cause
humanity's suffering.
We are so far from being innocent that we owe
our very existence to sin. If, for example, we
traced our family tree far
enough,we would probably each find an
ancestor born as a result of sin - rape, unlawful
Inbreeding, a despised pregnancy,
sex before marriage, and the like.
Humanity can boast only ONE PERFECT PERSON
. We killed him.
Frequently, we hear or read a comment like
this:
"I simply cannot believe in a God who
permits innocent children to starve and suffer,
and men like Hitler and Stalin to murder
millions of people."
The examples may vary,but the thoughts are
always the same. Supposedly,this is "proof" that
either God doesn't exist, or that if He does, He
either doesn't care about our sufferings, or He is
not powerful enough to do
anything about them. But suffering is neither
proof of God's non-existence or
existence. Saying, "If God exists, why is
there suffering?" is like saying "If San Francisco
exists, why are there earthquakes?" Do
earthquakes occur because San Francisco
causes them? Or do they occur in spite of San
Francisco? Or do they have nothing to do with
San
Francisco? Well, we know the answer to that
question because we know about San Francisco
and we know about
earthquakes.But how much do we really know
about God? If we define Him by our own nature,
then He cannot be of
any greater character than ourselves.
We may ascribe to Him a greater power than
ourselves, but when we suppose that God
should or should not act like this or that,then all
we are really saying is, "He should act like I
would if I
were God."
STARVING:
Now, let's look at starving children. The Bible
says that in the beginning, God created the
heavens and the earth. That
includes everything necessary to feed and
provide for its inhabitants. Can anyone deny
that the earth is capable of producing more than
enough food to feed the entire globe? Well then,
if people are starving, whose fault is that? If God
made the earth, is He also supposed to plant
and distribute our crops for us? Do you
remember the tons of food that were shipped to
Ethiopia,
but did not reach the starving people who
needed it? Whose fault was that?
The reason that over 90% of the masses have
barely enough to survive on,is that there is a
problem of DISTRIBUTION, not of SUPPLY .A tiny
minority have far more than they need,
depriving the many.
SUFFERING:
Regarding suffering that is the result of sin, what
could be clearer than Romans 1:28–29 and
Galatians 6:8–9? The
unbeliever may stomp about with all vigor and
complain that it is "bigotry" to associate the rise
of AIDS and other diseases to sin; that biblical
morality is
narrow-minded, outdated, and totally wrong.
But this fact is unalterable: In a society where
biblical morality is abandoned, suffering always
increases.
Where biblical morality is followed, suffering
always declines. Always. (Isa.59:1-4).
As to Hitler, Stalin, street gangs and senseless
murders: Would any of these things happen if
people followed the teachings of Jesus? Do you
realize what
this world would be like if people simply
followed God's instructions? There would be no
murder, no wars. There would be no welfare,
because families
would take care of their own (and families
would stay together) and those who did not
have families would be
provided for by their fellow-members in Christ.
There would be no starvation… I could go on,
but the point is: God has
provided us answers; whose fault is it that we
don't seek them or heed them when we find
them?
I suspect that those who use suffering as a
"proof" of God's non-existence would not want
to have their free choice taken away from
them,but that's exactly what God would have to
do if He were to enforce His will on the earth.
For if God were to intervene in the matter of
suffering, would He not also intervene in the
matter of sin? If He did, He would have to be a
dictator.
Then how would we react? We would not want
that,and according to the Bible, God doesn't
want it either. He wants us to obey Him because
we want to, not because we have to. And in
order to accomplish this, He must allow two
things to happen. First, in order to grant us free
choice, He must provide us with graphic
examples of the consequences of the wrong
choice. Secondly,He must allow injustices and
sufferings; otherwise he'd provide sinful
mankind with every blessing and benefit
without restriction. If everything in this life was
fair, good and happy, what need would there be
to seek a better life? Why would we seek a
Deliverer, if there was nothing to be delivered
from? Suffering is not something that ought to
turn people away from God, but draw them to
Him.

I have two perfect solutions to your answers.

1. Change your church. You need a shepherd that sees his flocks indifferently. Be careful of eye service and manpleasing in your next church. Respect is reciprocal. If you respect and humble yourself. Don't give them too much attention. They will respect you

2. Ignore him. When you see him greet him and say God bless you sir. Try and see that Jesus has mediated us with the father and no pastor can take glory for someone's communication and closeness with God. Do your bit, pay tithes, give generously in church and never let the pastor antics incite you. Ignore whatever shenanigan he might plot with the members against you. Just be humble and keep to yourself.

Change church and lets hear word. How can a pastor who keeps malice gonna be able to lead you to heaven?

Abeg change ship sharp sharp

oloriooko:
When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do?

who tied you to that church?tell the person to release you asap!

malvisguy212:
is it compulsory to remain in that church ? Did the bible encourage such behavior ? Why do you guys always bring irrelevant topics here ? You are not a kid, you know what to do.

Please stop the insult if you have nothing worthwhile to say, thanks

Whats d problem dia
If your pastor hates u, u sef hate him back!
Spread lies against him dat he is a homosexual or phalse prophet

mccoy47:
Whats d problem dia
If your pastor hates u, u sef hate him back!
Spread lies against him dat he is a homosexual or phalse prophet

Thanks but won't

Who your pastor don help?

Some people r just funny...
Pastor na God 4 dem.

And so?

Dem use rope tie you down ni?

You're a weakling.

You can actually make the people turn against the Pastor. Since the Pastor has decided to make you miserable; you have to fight back.

This is what you should do: Whenever there is a deliverance session in church, just fake falling under the anointing. Start crying. Start rolling on the floor. Then, start speaking in tongues. Then, say the following words: I have given you enough time. Since you've decided not to repent of your sins, Put your house in order, for I am taking you away. Make sure you put his name in between.

Watch what will follow.

Nigerians and religious slavery. Nawa.

Someone must have told him what u did not do and d confused man too is using d wrong info to act without proof

I'm sure u go to a prophetic church bcus na dem dey use vision scatter things like that

Untill u realize that ur self esteem and mind health is as important as ur religion; infact more than ur religion u will keep being enslaved to such pastoral misbehaviours. So u better leave the church and stop being a victim of nonsense.

Go to a church where u are celebrated and not tolerated. Leave d church asap, infact start attending a church close to the church, to pacify ur pastor's anger.

What you should do is to hate him back and do whatever he does to you badly in multiple folds.

I dnt understand why some xtians carry pastor matter for head like face cap.

Are they not the one's that preach we are all equal in the face of lord?

That's how my friend always shout Adeboye's name every morning when praying.

Waka leave the church now

Salvation is personal.

Who cares what your pastor thinks or says about you? If you can't handle it, leave the church.

oloriooko:
When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do?

Is your pastor God... Why are you worried that he hates you Move the fffkk on... Abi you depend on the pastor to feed and cater for your needs??
Change your church brother, change your pastor!!

M

na only him church dey? my guy find another church na.

oloriooko:
When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do?

hope u dont hate urself? the to hell with ur pastor. may be u r blocking his lies to make money

Get the Bleep out of the fucking church.. Abi them tie your destiny there?

A real man of God shouldn't be hating in the first place.

oloriooko:
When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do?

same case with me buh i stopped coming to church, am looking for a new church that will accept me since march i have never been to church

This your story get k-leg o but are you sure you have been consistent in paying tithes, offerings and any other monies?

There's nothing that offends a pastor more than someone who refuses to contribute to his heavenly account, that's like robbing him physically, using a machine gun.

Kikikiki

Na dat church dey bury ur placenta abi??

After service today , walk straight to him, hold his trouser and start shouting "I will never let u go unless u stop hating". It works like magic. Thank me later

The best things is to try and reconcile. Call for dialogue, if it doesn't work out you better change your church. Don't fight him its not worth it

oloriooko:
When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do?

go to another church

Your Pastor is not God.....