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| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 11:36am On Mar 10, 2018 |
Olodumare is the name given to one of the three manifestations of the Supreme God in the Yoruba pantheon. Olodumare is the Supreme Creator.[1] He carries the responsibility of coordinating the Universe, while Olofi is identified with Olofin Oduduwa, who brings existence to earth on orders from Olodumare. The Supreme God has three manifestations: Olodumare, the Creator; Olorun, ruler of the heavens; and Olofi, who is the conduit between Orún (Heaven) and Ayé (Earth). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olodumare Where did the Yorubas get this inspiration from? Christian missionaries? |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 11:40am On Mar 10, 2018 |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 12:04pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:Bros, don't tell me you didn't read Emmanystone say no to sign-posting OkCornel:You must have mistaken me for Count Dracula OkCornel:Who do you think, has been liking your post? When I see valid points in them, I like them and when not, is when, you hear me breathing down your neck. I expect you do same to me, if or when I veer off too. ...so brother, if you like and want to stop contributing, then feel free to leave and go enjoy, as you take the easy way out 1 Like |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 12:08pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: In simple English...what is sign-posting? I am yet to recover from the merism wahala on another thread... |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 12:09pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:I asked you about YOUR understanding of the PROPER meaning of Olodumare and look at what you provided. Can't even put in your own words except for regurgitating Wikipedia and giving another sign-post. SMH OkCornel:That merism was no wahala, But was good exercise for you, at least your muscles got flexed. You've now gotten used to weights you haven't lifted before 1 Like |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 12:17pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: So wikipedia is now nonsense or what? I have put in a standard definition of Olodumare that everyone can relate with... is there any problem with that? Did it occur to you that I put a link to wikipedia there? at least it shows I am not plagiarizing anyone's work... Anyways, how is this different from someone quoting Bible verses to explain their understanding of God to me? Are they also regurgitating?  Are they also sign posting?Emmanystone asked me some questions which I answered...and you interjected that I am sign posting... When has answering one's questions become an offense for goodness sake? 2 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 12:32pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:You're doing a straw man now and completely going off the handle It's all good, it's alright. OkCornel:Since you asked, I'll tell you the difference. People make their points and then back it up with bible references Or provide bible references, followed with making their points. Not straight up sign-posting and just pointing others to, hey go there OkCornel:Don't worry OkCornel, I've just added yours, to list of IDS I don't respond to nor mention. You now can breathe a sigh of relief that I wouldn't henceforth mention your ID nor respond again to posts you make. It's nothing personal, just that it's the best action I can think for both out sakes. It has been nice discussing and learning from you. 1 Like |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 12:36pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: People making their points and backing it up with Bible reference is fine...but people doing so with Wikipedia or other sources are wrong? Not replying me is going to the extreme... I only mentioned I was giving a direct response to Emmanystone's questions. She abi he asked for extrabiblical references which I gave...and you said I was sign posting... My understanding of Olodumare is consistent with that of wikipedia...and I post that there...you say I am regurgitating...it's well... It's nice learning from you too sir... |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:08pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:Wait, Wikipedia is the extrabiblical source? What? You'd rather believe what men post on Wikipedia as opposed to all the information contained in the Bible? Okay. 2 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:12pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:This Bros no dey hear something o. Pls stop referring me to read up anything. If you have read it, then post your points here. What does these books say in connection to the Op? 2 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:22pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:Did YHWH create them as demons or their rebellion caused their fall to the state of demonism? Bros na wa for you o. Are you sure you know who Ashteroth is? I doubt it very much. Now YHWH declared that Yahshua is his Son, is there any resemblance between YHWWh and Yashshua? If Anu is YHWH, why is Ishta or Ashteroth a demon? OkCornel:Can you stop referring me to books? OkCornel:What do you mean The Elohim walked the earth? Shey una dey see now? This guy here has no idea who YHWH is but he is here claiming having the spirit of truth, if tomorrow he becomes an atheist, he will begin to shout how much of God he knew. Oga, who were the Elohim? 2 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Mujtahida: 1:33pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone:The same Jews whom your Bible calls the enemies of all mankind? 1st Thessalonians 2:15 I presume you think you and the Jews worship the same God. Hahahaha hahahaha. Do you want to be educated about the Jews? Just let me know and I'd furnish you with resources from all over the world so you won't say that it's coming from a particular people on who the Jews are. But first let's begin with the book of Gérard Menuhin son of the internationally reputable Yehudi Menuhin, a Jew. Download and read his book ''Tell the truth and shame the devil''. You can download it online. If not I can email it to you. Read Ariel Toaff's(son of the former chief rabbi of Rome) 'Blood Libel'. Read the books by Isreal Shihak a Jew. Go and read the book of Elizabeth Dilling(a staunch Christian woman) 'Jewish religion: it's influence today. Read 'Judaism discovered' written by a Christian Michael Hoffman I will give you a raft of books written Jews themselves to read and by christians. Then perhaps your eyes will be opened. Christians are tragically one of the most uninformed people on earth and why not when their heads are stuck inside a book which to them tells all about the world. Smh. It's a real tragedy. Shey you you've read that Hitler killed six million Jews? Do you want to reconsider that dominant view? Just let me know and I will furnish you with resources. Hahahaha hahahaha. Jews the world's master liers! Two things made me leave Christianity: i discovered I was worshipping a dumb god who doesn't talk called Jehovah Secondly I learnt about the Jews and I saw the whole thing for the carefully scripted national propaganda that it is- I mean the Bible especially the old testament. So when you look at me as an atheist you wrong. I just don't believe in the Jewish God Christians call the only God. 2 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 1:56pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: You asked for extrabiblical sources...I gave you, you are saying I shouldn't give you again. I told you to check out a book, and I gave you a summary of it. You did not bother to check, you just concluded from the name of the book that Elohim walked on earth... What kind of person am I dealing with for goodness sake? can't you comprehend? Read the book before embarrassing yourself here! 1 Like |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 1:57pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: So the book of Enoch and Jasher I mentioned...you didn't see those ones abi? Wait, why are you behaving this way? What is the problem? |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:58pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:How you will know Olodumare and Abasi are YHWH is you check their ACTS. THEIR MODUS OPERANDI she tell you if they are the same entity. OkCornel:How do you know the mind of God? It is by reading or listening to that man. I'm reading your mind here. OkCornel:If you see emotions here, you stirred them up by what you say here. You have no idea who Jehovah is and how He operates. You are everywhere trying to make other gods YHWH.  OkCornel:I won't be missing anything if i don't mention. 3 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:59pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:What does these books say with regards to my Op pls? 3 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 2:01pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Next time, please do a google search so you don't rush into hasty conclusions... A short caption of the book below; In this riveting book, the author explores the history of the "Elohim," the titans or giants birthed through the union of fallen angels with human women (as recorded in Genesis), and the "bull spirit" behind them. Using both the Bible and many other ancient writings, the author carefully outlines evidence that these beings existed and explains the agenda behind their cruel reign upon the earth-- to corrupt Adam's race through whom the Savior was promised to come and to offer alternative "heroes" to save humanity. The book explores how this agenda and the gods associated with it affected biblical history-- with a look also at present and end-times implications.
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| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 2:03pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:You said the Bible was not enough source as it doesn't hold the whole truth about the earth, hence you resort to extra biblical sources. I asked what these sources were, you gave me Wikipedia and the Book of Enoch and Jaser. Wikipedia is better than the Bible? Wiki holds truth about the universe better than the Bible? Really? Who wrote the book of Enoch pls? OkCornel:God knows how many times i have said no links, but you insist on posting links and books for me to read. OkCornel:You are dealing with someone you can't push about. I said no referrals, what is wrong with your eyes? Can't you read? If you have read a book, tell us what it says with regards to the Op. Don't sidestep. |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 2:04pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: You are hasty in your conclusions, you never bothered to understand where I am coming from. Now you think God's Spirit revealed to you that I am what exactly? |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 2:08pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: And who told you which book is better than which? Let me even ask you something...which Bible were the Apostles reading when they were doing the things they did as inspired of God? was it the Torah or what? My point is, you cannot limit God into a book... start with the Bible and don't be scared into going beyond that... 1 Like |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 2:09pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:Now you are saying i said something about God's spirit revealing something to me. Really? We are getting there. |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 2:16pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: My dear, you asked for extrabiblical sources of mine which I gave you some... You have misunderstood my point of view on countless occassions...I don't see the point telling you something which you'll later blindly accuse me of worshipping a demon... |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 2:17pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Alright then, so what led you into saying those things you mentioned earlier? your thinking? |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 2:18pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Didn't you read the summary I posted to you earlier about the book before you jumped into a hasty conclusion? I now put precise details of the book...you are shouting again? I hope all is well with you o? What exactly is the problem? |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 2:27pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Frankly speaking, I am dissappointed in your hasty conclusion here... So tell us how you concluded I have no idea who YHWH is and how I am "claiming" to have the Spirit of Truth...and how most likely I would be an atheist tomorrow... You never even bothered to know which literature came before which between Epic of Gilgamesh and Genesis... and I am still having this discussion with you... Anyways ride on... |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 3:36pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:How come you didn't say who the Elohims are or were wbo once walked the earth? No one with the Spirit of God will say the Bible is not enough source of information, ang goes ahead to name wikipedia as an authentic source for a believer to rely on. What  ??And you didn't tell me who wrote the book of Enoch. 2 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 3:40pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Read up the post I made on the summary of the book... you'll see who the author referred to as the Elohim...the fallen angels who deceitfully took on the title of God to establish ancient religions around the world and corrupting the TRUTH and knowledge of the one True God... A part of the book of Enoch (the book of the watchers) was written by Enoch (the great grand father of Noah) himself... Jude v 14-15 made direct reference to the book of Enoch If I post some links here, you might shout...so no need for that... You haven't told me the books the Apostles were reading in their own time... Don't limit yourself to a collection of 66 books as the only truth... Have you bothered investigating the history of the Bible? Will you let the council of Nicaea determine what the truth is for you? 2 Likes |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by budaatum: 5:03pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:Does Au, whatever that is, have to have done anything for anyone for us to discover which historically was first created? Does every discussion have to be about personal experiences? |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by budaatum: 5:06pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
OkCornel:Indeed Emmanystone, why are you behaving this way? What is the problem? |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by budaatum: 5:27pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Emmanystone:And yet, you refused to acknowledge the very first point of contention in you post, which is whether Moses wrote Genesis in the first place! The second is to ask why one believes what one believes. By that statement alone, you are emotionally setting up a comparison between "religious beliefs" and "what one knows". There is after all, verifiable evidence. But there you are saying "no links", without realising perhaps that you mean "no evidence please". But that's no surprise, since you asked for "what you believe" to begin with! I can safely assure you that we have one on NL who worships or holds the Enuma Elish as the book of their god. |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 5:59pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
budaatum:Please clear the air on what you mean by the below then. I've got it here reproduced verbatim, exactly just as you wrote it: "To you others who have something to share, please go on. There are some of us sitting silently at the back ignoring the chaff and learning from you" |
| Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 6:02pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
budaatum:"What's your problem or what is the problem" must look déjà vu for isnt it friend Why some give in, to having to resort to that phrase beats me. |
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