OkCornel:


Nope...

This means you never understood what I have been posting all the while...

What were you pointing at?

Emmanystone:







1) Does the Bible tell you Demons have daughters who are also worshipped as godesses?
2) If Anu is a Demon based on the fact that Ishtar is His daughter (a fairy tale I must add), what would you say about God who created Satan?

When you are charting into unfamiliar territory, don't be hasty to conclude...




And this is coming from someone who claims to have the Holy Spirit in him o. Or i may have mistaken the 'Spirit of Truth to mean the Spirit of God

Sir, in other cultures demons can make their worshippers believe anything they are made to believe, but that's not the same with those who know YHWH. It's only when you stand in the light you can see clearly.

In the Hellenistic Religions which is the same with this Babylonians and Assyrian deities, gods are said to marry and have children. Ishtar for instance was married to Baal.

Without the Bible, you won't even know that Baal or Ishtar or Ashteroth were demon. You'd believe they what they claim to be, God.

Now, look at it like this, Athena is Zeus daughter, who is zeus? Can you say because Zeus is believed to be the supreme being in the Hellenistic religion, he is YHWH?

I asked you this before, did God create satan evil? Was he satan when he was created? I asked this before ypu dogded answering it. Who was Satan when he was created.

So because Lucifer rebelled and became Satan, YHWH is now evil?

I said it, we shall get there, we are close.
When you claim to have the Spirit of Truth, be sure to know which of the Spirits you are talking about, because it obvious you have no slightest idea who YHWH is.

Did Anu give birth to Ishtar evil?

How much do you know of all these religions before writing them off as evil and demonic?

I guess anything outside Judaism or Christianity is evil and demonic isn't it?

OkCornel:


I didn't refer you to the Book of Enoch and Jasher abi?


What exactly in Wikipedia did I throw at you as an extrabiblical reference?

Can you know the mind of YHWH from these books and wiki you mentioned?
My point is, you have no right to stand and claim you have the Spirit of Truth in you if you consider the Word of God not enough for your edification.

Very soon you'd tell me the Bible can't be trusted because it was written by men. You even vied towards that angle when you mentioned the council of Nicaea. Oh dear.

If you need any other source to know God, then you must have another god from YHWH.

MuttleyLaff:


"No links" actually means no sign-posting only.
As in, make your points and then if necessary, augment it with whatever reference links you may have

Or drop your link,
but better make sure you show the lots of meat, you've carved off this bone, you've first dangled out for all to see.

No lazy and cutting corners manoeuvres posting

Who is the one?
Let the one come into the open, to directly and publicly admit the worship Enuma Elish here

He said someone in NL is an Anu beliver, yet that someone is hiding.

Emmanystone:

What were you pointing at?

God has been revealing Himself to man...and not just the Jews alone...


Just as how the fallen angels have been revealing themselves to be God as well...


Do you get it now?

Emmanystone:

Can you know the mind of YHWH from these books and wiki you mentioned?
My point is, you have no right to stand and claim you have the Spirit of Truth in you if you consider the Word of God not enough for your edification.

Very soon you'd tell me the Bible can't be trusted because it was written by men. You even vied towards that angle when you mentioned the council of Nicaea. Oh dear.

If you need any other source to know God, then you must have another god from YHWH.

My dear, the understanding of God comes from His Spirit and not necessarily from any book...

Even the Devil can deceive you with the Bible you hold onto dearly...

Going by the bolded...it shows you still have a narrow mindset just like any other religious fanatic... too bad..

OkCornel:


Did Anu give birth to Ishtar evil?

How much do you know of all these religions before writing them off as evil and demonic?

I guess anything outside Judaism or Christianity is evil and demonic isn't it?

Later na you go deny this one o. You are making a case for Anu. So Anu is a good God abi?

Okay, let me fo.back to.what i kept asking but you kept dodging. Present all Anu's Acts lets check him out if he is God or.not.

@Bolded, their activities will speak if only you'd present them.

The Spirit in you which has been pretending is coming out gradually.

budaatum:

It is not your thread. You created it, but you don't get to determine who posts in it, or what they post in it!

Lolzzzz, but i can determine who i respond to according to my rules.

Emmanystone:

Later na you go deny this one o. You are making a case for Anu. So Anu is a good God abi?

Okay, let me fo.back to.what i kept asking but you kept dodging. Present all Anu's Acts lets check him out if he is God or.not.

@Bolded, their activities will speak if only you'd present them.

The Spirit in you which has been pretending is coming out gradually.

I am not making any case for Anu...I am telling you not be hasty in your conclusions on something you know little of...

What do you know about Anu that makes him evil? I haven't heard anything apart from him being the father of Ishtar...tell me, what else?

Emmanystone:

Later na you go deny this one o. You are making a case for Anu. So Anu is a good God abi?

Okay, let me fo.back to.what i kept asking but you kept dodging. Present all Anu's Acts lets check him out if he is God or.not.

@Bolded, their activities will speak if only you'd present them.

The Spirit in you which has been pretending is coming out gradually.

Do you know who the accuser of the brethren is? Are you hell bent on doing that work?

You're beginning to sound like the self-righteous Pharisees in the times of Jesus...ride on...

You know God perfectly...but you cannot tell whether Epic of Gilgamesh predates Genesis abi?


Keep it up... everyone is watching

OkCornel:

Oh my bad...are you insinuating Enoch could not write a book?

Yes he could, but he couldn't have written this one, because the very Genesis which spoke about him was written by someone else long after him. If he had written Genesis, you could claim He wrote the book of Enoch, but he didn't. Who wtote the book of Enoch?

OkCornel:

Anyways...Elohim was used initially used to refer to gods and deities before the Hebrews adopted it as a name for the one true God...
Did Elohim ever was used to address the Fallen Angels or Nephilims?
[quote author=OkCornel post=65731338]
So tell me, what was the error of the author referring the fallen angels (deities and gods) as the Elohim? or you are the one mistaking the writer's reference of Elohim as same for that used for the one true God?

His error is, he is trying to place YHWH in the class of fallen Angels by erroneously calling them Elohim instead of Nephilims. He has an agenda like ifeness calling YHWH Anu.

OkCornel:

I thought you knew about the origin of the word Elohim...

Yes i did, i didn't mention doesn't mean i didn't.

Emmanystone:

Later na you go deny this one o. You are making a case for Anu. So Anu is a good God abi?

Okay, let me fo.back to.what i kept asking but you kept dodging. Present all Anu's Acts lets check him out if he is God or.not.

@Bolded, their activities will speak if only you'd present them.

The Spirit in you which has been pretending is coming out gradually.

For the umpteenth time...I am not dodging anything. You are the one who concluded Anu is a demon. And I am asking you questions...do I resemble a worshipper of Anu that I'll present his acts for you here?

The Sumerians/Assyrians revered Anu as the King of all gods...

Whether he had a daughter is of no concern to me...and how are you sure Anu's daughter being Ishtar is even the truth?

OkCornel:


So if you knew all of this, why is the Elohim stuff causing you to raise alarm?

So you knew the Hebrews adopted Elohim and Elyon as names of God abi?

I am shocked because you who claim you know God takes a stand with a man who tries to make lazy people believe that YHWH is a demon (a fallen angel). Satan through hos agents is trying to put himself in the class of YHWH, but he has failed.

Emmanystone:


Yes he could, but he couldn't have written this one, because the very Genesis which spoke about him was written by someone else long after him. If he had written Genesis, you could claim He wrote the book of Enoch, but he didn't. Who wtote the book of Enoch?

So Moses wrote a few lines about Enoch...and that's all there is to Enoch?

How are you so sure Enoch never wrote that book? I don't want to hear theories, tell me undisputable facts...

Emmanystone:

I am shocked because you who claim you know God takes a stand with a man who tries to make lazy people believe that YHWH is a demon (a fallen angel). Satan through hos agents is trying to put himself in the class of YHWH, but he has failed.

I don't want to call you delusional...but it appears you either lack understanding or you have decided to become deliberately ignorant...

Tell us where the Hebrews adopted those words from...

Or you think they are original words from the Jewish people? why are you living in denial?

Emmanystone:


Yes he could, but he couldn't have written this one, because the very Genesis which spoke about him was written by someone else long after him. If he had written Genesis, you could claim He wrote the book of Enoch, but he didn't. Who wtote the book of Enoch?

It still shows you lack understanding of what I have been saying all the while...so let me break it down for you.

Long before the Jews adopted Elohim as one of the names for God... the Canaanites also used that word "Elohim" to address their pantheon of gods...

A writer called these dieties (gods) Elohim...who were the Nephilims that once walked as men...and in your haste, you thought he was referring to the one true God...

Without you bearing in mind that the word "Elohim" was originally used to address these pantheon of gods in the first place...

If you don't understand this...and you go about posting blasphemy...then I am convinced you are ready to tell lies to defend the truth...which is not even needed in the first place...

Emmanystone:

I am shocked because you who claim you know God takes a stand with a man who tries to make lazy people believe that YHWH is a demon (a fallen angel). Satan through hos agents is trying to put himself in the class of YHWH, but he has failed.

Tell the truth and let the devil you've been praying against be put to shame...

Where did I call YHWH a Demon? Why do you need to lie like this?

Please mention where exactly I called YHWH a Demon... what kind of reasoning is this?

It would be a pity if someone else has read that book so you can see all the ignorance you have been displaying on this thread...It is your type that is quick to even judge a book by its cover literally and figuratively...

OkCornel:


And going by the bolded...who will the fallen angels call themselves to be?

Inasmuch as the fallen angels were going about preaching a corrupt version of God and claiming to be God themselves...do you really think God abandoned all of man to focus on the Hebrews alone? How did Job find out about this one true God?

You shouldn't be asking me if I can date Genesis...unless you think Moses is not the author of Genesis...

Genesis was written by Moses...and the period in which Moses lived on earth was when the earliest version of it was written by him (or his scribes)

I will begin to ignore your derailment tactics.

Now on Moses and the Universe, i think you are confused. Let's start all over again.

Did Moses create the Universe? You said no. Was Moses given a revelation about the creation of the universe? Bro Muttleylaff helped us understand that, you also pointed out that what God refused to make known to Moses, He made known to Apst John.

But here you are still stick at when Moses penned down the account.

Was when the Universe created when the account was penned down? This is where you are stuck.

The Epic of Gilgamesh yes predates when Moses penned down the account given to him by YHWH, but can you truly say when the Universe was created?

If you insist that Moses copied the Epic of Gilgamesh, you must be saying. the Universe was created when the Epic of Gilgamesh was written, which has a date on it.

Was that date when the universe was created?

Emmanystone:

I will begin to ignore your derailment tactics.

Now on Moses and the Universe, i think you are confused. Let's start all over again.

Did Moses create the Universe? You said no. Was Moses given a revelation about the creation of the universe? Bro Muttleylaff helped us understand that, you also pointed out that what God refused to make known to Moses, He made known to Apst John.

But here you are still stick at when Moses penned down the account.

Was when the Universe created when the account was penned down? This is where you are stuck.

The Epic of Gilgamesh yes predates when Moses penned down the account given to him by YHWH, but can you truly say when the Universe was created?

If you insist that Moses copied the Epic of Gilgamesh, you must be saying. the Universe was created when the Epic of Gilgamesh was written, which has a date on it.

Was that date when the universe was created?

See the problem I have with you....hasty conclusions!!!

Where did I mention on this thread that Moses copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh?? please quote where I mentioned that...

Moses wrote down the book of Genesis when he was alive...what period was that? is this thing rocket science to you? That would be the book of Genesis was dated!!!

I am still waiting for you to show us where I mentioned Moses copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh!!!

Let me see how you will dodge this one...
why all these lies for goodness sake?

Religion brought about damnation in the world, stay away from religion and you will live in peace.
Having faith or believing in any religion is the worst thing that can ever happen to any man.
About the thread... None of these FIGURES existed.
if anyone believes any of these figures ever existed because the their bible or religious books say so then no one should ever doubt the fact that Zeus, Hades, Aphrodite and Jupiter existed because the are also in records and books whether religious or historical.
Point is they are all folktales to keep folks entertained and in check mentally.

It's not by bearing all these useless tags that makes you a child of God...[/quote]

OkCornel:


I am not a Christian... I am a truthseeker...

See am? I talk am say this man na pretender. Why are you saying this now? Why didnt you say this all along?

And, the Spirit of Truth in you is whose Spirit? Christ? Hahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahaha.

Very soon you will say you are a freethinker who has known YHWH but discovered He didn't exist. I don dey talk am since like say i know.

OkCornel:

I do not do religion... I live for the TRUTH...

What is the TRUTH?

OkCornel:

Didn't the Bible mention that if all the acts of Jesus were recorded, the whole world cannot contain it?

You must done all what he taught and still find Him wanting, hence, you resorted to wikipedia to know Him more. Or probably there are books were those other Acts of Jesus are written that you resort to all by yourself.

OkCornel:

If so, why are you limiting yourself to the Bible? Are you afraid you'll go astray? When the Holy Spirit is there to guide one into all truth?

Maybe you point me to those books where these other Acts of Jesus are written so that i can also consult them.
Only satan will tell a Christian to.look beyond the bible, that's because he wants his own 'truths to be added

OkCornel:

Truly, I find this dissappointing...

Please mention to me where God called His children "Christians"...

You are not as disappointed as i am to find out you are a pretender all this while. It's so sad.

Emmanystone:

It's not by bearing all these useless tags that makes you a child of God...



I am not a Christian... I am a truthseeker...
See am? I talk am say this man na pretender. Why are you saying this now? Why didnt you say this all along?

And, the Spirit of Truth in you is whose Spirit? Christ? Hahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahaha.

Very soon you will say you are a freethinker who has known YHWH but discovered He didn't exist. I don dey talk am since like say i know.

I do not do religion... I live for the TRUTH...
What is the TRUTH?

Didn't the Bible mention that if all the acts of Jesus were recorded, the whole world cannot contain it?
You must done all what he taught and still find Him wanting, hence, you resorted to wikipedia to know Him more. Or probably there are books were those other Acts of Jesus are written that you resort to all by yourself.


If so, why are you limiting yourself to the Bible? Are you afraid you'll go astray? When the Holy Spirit is there to guide one into all truth?
Maybe you point me to those books where these other Acts of Jesus are written so that i can also consult them.
Only satan will tell a Christian to.look beyond the bible, that's because he wants his own 'truths to be added


Truly, I find this dissappointing...

Please mention to me where God called His children "Christians"...
You are not as disappointed as i am to find out you are a pretender all this while. It's so sad.

Wow...this is interesting. So because I do not call my self "Christian" it means I am a pretender abi?

And only the Devil tells one to look beyond the Bible for truth?

My dear, you are no different from a muslim zealot... I strongly doubt if you even understand the Bible you are reading...

It seems you have taken the place of God in my life and you now know how my future will turn out to be...that I'm a freethinker who thinks YHWH does not exist abi? - this is a very irritating way of sitting on your high horse and judging people as though you know everything about them... very immature of you I must say... keep up with the lies and denial though...

By the way, please humor me...other people that don't bear the Christian tag are going to hell fire abi?

Emmanystone:

It's not by bearing all these useless tags that makes you a child of God...



I am not a Christian... I am a truthseeker...
See am? I talk am say this man na pretender. Why are you saying this now? Why didnt you say this all along?

And, the Spirit of Truth in you is whose Spirit? Christ? Hahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahaha.

Very soon you will say you are a freethinker who has known YHWH but discovered He didn't exist. I don dey talk am since like say i know.

I do not do religion... I live for the TRUTH...
What is the TRUTH?

Didn't the Bible mention that if all the acts of Jesus were recorded, the whole world cannot contain it?
You must done all what he taught and still find Him wanting, hence, you resorted to wikipedia to know Him more. Or probably there are books were those other Acts of Jesus are written that you resort to all by yourself.


If so, why are you limiting yourself to the Bible? Are you afraid you'll go astray? When the Holy Spirit is there to guide one into all truth?
Maybe you point me to those books where these other Acts of Jesus are written so that i can also consult them.
Only satan will tell a Christian to.look beyond the bible, that's because he wants his own 'truths to be added


Truly, I find this dissappointing...

Please mention to me where God called His children "Christians"...
You are not as disappointed as i am to find out you are a pretender all this while. It's so sad.

Look at all your quotes on this thread, your motive has been to throw mud at me all the while...I can see you are truly "Christ-like"

Please tell me, does God have a religion?

Emmanystone:

Lolzzzz, but i can determine who i respond to according to my rules.

Indeed you can. Hopefully, and especially if you don't subscribe to butterflylion's idea of being controlled by others.

I gave you a book about Heaven and Hell. Did I have to believe it to give it to you? Would you claim my giving it to you proves I believe it?

(Was it not good, by the way, you never said?)

Emmanystone:

Hahahahahahaha. This guy has short memories. You pisted me a book to read where you believed that what the author wrote is true. The author said Elohim was or were Fallen Angels, i posted to you points showing that Elohim is YHWH. If you believe what that author says, haven't you called YHWH Fallen Angel?

budaatum:

Indeed you can. Hopefully, and especially if you don't subscribe to butterflylion's idea of being controlled by others.

Are you seeing the updates on this thread?

I am in real shock...

@emmanystone.. why would a loving god as Christians claims is the true character of their almighty god derives pleasure is destroying people who don't believe in him by allowing them burn in hell on the last day as foretold when it was recorded in your bible that he created every living things including man and he knows all things.. why didn't he just create a set of people who will believe, love, trust, obey and worship him without questions rather than having some perish because they didn't believe in him and jesus and some alive because they did believed in him and his son called jesus. Unless he doesn't know all things as Christians claims.

Emmanystone:

I will begin to ignore your derailment tactics.

Now on Moses and the Universe, i think you are confused. Let's start all over again.

Did Moses create the Universe? You said no. Was Moses given a revelation about the creation of the universe? Bro Muttleylaff helped us understand that, you also pointed out that what God refused to make known to Moses, He made known to Apst John.

But here you are still stick at when Moses penned down the account.

Was when the Universe created when the account was penned down? This is where you are stuck.

The Epic of Gilgamesh yes predates when Moses penned down the account given to him by YHWH, but can you truly say when the Universe was created?

If you insist that Moses copied the Epic of Gilgamesh, you must be saying. the Universe was created when the Epic of Gilgamesh was written, which has a date on it.

Was that date when the universe was created?

And when did the date of the creation of the Universe become a basis of the argument?

The Epic of Gilgamesh was documented before the book of Genesis...what else are you driving at? what point exactly are you making?

butterflylion:


Tell that to seun who made nairaland rule number 1

This is Rule 1.

1. Please post all threads in the right section, and don't derail threads by posting off topic.

Let me know when you became a mod please, and ban those who contravene that rule, if you can.

OkCornel:


Are you seeing the updates on this thread?

I am in real shock...

That's what happens when emotions trump reason. How anyone can ask another to abandon reason, logic and empirical evidence, and believe what they say befuddles me. It only makes sense if their motives are to enslave others!

budaatum:

That's what happens when emotions trump reason. How anyone can ask another to abandon reason, logic and empirical evidence, and believe what they say befuddles me. It only makes sense if their motives are to enslave others!

It's funny how she hastily labels one an agent of satan...even with evidences sticking up to her face...

What do I care? Even Jesus was called a Prince of Demons by supposedly self-righteous people for saying the truth... this one is not any different...

snnazzy24:
Religion brought about damnation in the world, stay away from religion and you will live in peace.
Having faith or believing in any religion is the worst thing that can ever happen to any man.
About the thread... None of these FIGURES existed.
if anyone believes any of these figures ever existed because the their bible or religious books say so then no one should ever doubt the fact that Zeus, Hades, Aphrodite and Jupiter existed because the are also in records and books whether religious or historical.
Point is they are all folktales to keep folks entertained and in check mentally.

You seem unaware that the greatest danger to humanity is the religion of Atheism.