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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 2:54am On Dec 15, 2018
ChristineC:
if Nigeria was a sane country, a tag-team of Peter Obi and Umma Getso will be given a chance to fix that country in 2019.

Nigeria is a big business and only a successful businessman can see what it is for what it really is.
first you must have a plan, secondly it must be articulate and finally it should be practical. enough of these empty heads taking the country for a ride. just look at that Galadima nigga.. na wa o embarassed
what did them know, except importation. And buying and selling business
Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 3:01am On Dec 15, 2018
naunasabi:


I agree with most of your points but saying that Obi has no right whatsoever to do so is making the same mistake Buhari made with his 5% speech. Even GEJ has the right to ask! If Buhari happens to loss election next year he has the right in the future to query any present government on issues that he himself failed to address. As long as we are Nigerians it is our constitutional right and that should not be denied anyone. Because if you started saying Obi does not have the right because he belongs to a different party where exactly are we going to draw the line?
and that same party he belong fails to do 1km of road in 16yrs

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by naijaseeker: 3:18am On Dec 15, 2018
IFearGod:
Ode oponu!!! Benchmarking a 3.5year administration with China that started over 15 years ago forgetting that your useless party destroyed Nigeria for 16 good years. You can see your life outside, Mr Robot! It's just unfortunate how a miscreant like you sleep with your eyes closed at night.... Nigerians are wiser now; we are only going to the NextLevel

PDP/APC argument is cheap. Atiku was in APC, many people in PDP used to be in APC and vice versa. The people instrumental in removing Jonathan were in PDP. Question is, the current administration severely criticized Jonathan, and claimed that they will turn Nigeria around within 6 months. Granted, that was not possible but they seriously lack integrity. By the way Obi was in APGA, just joined PDP.

Will Atiku/Obi do any better, very unlikely.

However PDP/APC argument is an insult to Nigerians.

Should Buhari continue ruling us from Poland, defeating Boko Haram technically and closing down Nigeria to fight corruption? Your guess is as good as mine.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 3:19am On Dec 15, 2018
jumobi1:
If you vote for a man that told stranded Nigerians that they’re on their own then you deserve a brain exam.
because you like illegality,
Who sent them message to be stranded?

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 3:34am On Dec 15, 2018
Racoon:

And Nigeria today is the poverty capital of the world under the moribund APC government? It was never so under the PDP you know.Lets hear your rebuttal man.
from 112m in 2014 when oil was selling at $120/barrel to 87m in 2016 when oil was selling at $30 even during recession,
And today is less than 80m poor people.
Is that not a great achievement?

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 3:42am On Dec 15, 2018
Felizy:
They Said In 2015 That If They Don't Deliver That We Should Choose Our Leader.

The Question Is Have They Delivered?

To Me, NO They Have Not Deilvered. That's Why I'm Choosing Atiku/Obi, Let's Make Nigeria Work Again.

My Opinion, Your're Entitled To Yours.
and you are chosen the same party that brought us to this level, is that not hypocrisy?
This election is lace with tribalism and ethnicity.
Which will still favour buhari till 2023.
Anyhow you view it, whether in terms of performance or tribalism,
It is still buhari/osinbajo till 2023.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by jumobi1(m): 3:46am On Dec 15, 2018
buharitill2023:
because you like illegality,
Who sent them message to be stranded?
m

Doesn’t matter. They’re our siblings. You’re just a cold person.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 3:52am On Dec 15, 2018
nwabekeyi:
APC's blame games now becoming irritating, they can never take responsibility.

That's not how to lead, you have to be responsible
because you are blaming the government that is working, he need to remind you of where you are coming from.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 3:59am On Dec 15, 2018
Oblitz:
16 years of misrule, only 4 years and were almost dead. If APC remains in power for 16 years, Nigeria would be populated by wild animals
only those who were into illegal business, tax evaders and ghost workers that almost died.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by KingsleyBuubba(m): 4:09am On Dec 15, 2018
obainojazz:
You can not shutdown your shop in the name of chasing criminals.. Obi punchline...
And if u dnt chase those criminals, there won't be any shop in no time

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by naijaseeker: 4:31am On Dec 15, 2018
buharitill2023:
because you like illegality,
Who sent them message to be stranded?

They are seeking the same thing someone gives his children, and himself on tax and oil money. Education and health care. It is called empathy. If you lack it proffer a viable alternative, don't feed fat on oil and tax and think you are special. You are not.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by oyoikire: 5:30am On Dec 15, 2018
donnie:


So APC locked store and used 3 years to report to police? And it seems like they haven't reached police station yet.


apc has never lock shop. The system is continue and Efcc is there to catch the thief that is what am saying. That is why they are cleaning all the mess caused by pdp for 16) years. If not power will not increase, roads will not be built, rails will not be pay attention to etc.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by chigoziem10(f): 5:34am On Dec 15, 2018
chrisley:



Funny how Igbos have been swayed by the Atiku/Obi slot and loosing focus on their initial clamour for Biafra or referendum.. Everyone is unduly optimistic of Atikus victory at the polls.. No one is looking at it from other dimensions.. No one remembers the power of an incumbent president

So what happens if Atiku doesnt win? The Igbos will fall back to their Biafran cause? Isn't that laughable ?

Buhari is core military man adorned in the cloak of a civilian.. he still has that military inclinations , Buhari is a despot he might use brute to remain on the saddle.. same shit played out few months back in Osun when PDP won and it was overturned.. till date no one said a damn thing

Should Igbos heed Nnamdi Kanu's stance on voters apathy in the east and stand our ground for Biafra or referendum? Or should we keep our fingers crossed and root for Atiku/Obi....
Igbos are seemingly enmeshed in this quagmire of political indecision

Can Inec be trusted? Will our votes count?

What happend in Osun is a pointer that our Inec is compromised

There should be a "pact" for power to be rotated cos even if Buhari rigs the election and holds on to power neither Hausas nor yorubas would protest cos its still favourable to them.. and Igbos are back to square one

Sometimes I feel Igbos are destined to be politically irrelavant

Are you done with your grammars?

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by chigoziem10(f): 5:35am On Dec 15, 2018
buharitill2023:
only those who were into illegal business, tax evaders and ghost workers that almost died.

Your lie dey smell

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by donnie(m): 5:41am On Dec 15, 2018
oyoikire:
apc has never lock shop. The system is continue and Efcc is there to catch the thief that is what am saying. That is why they are cleaning all the mess caused by pdp for 16) years. If not power will not increase, roads will not be built, rails will not be pay attention to etc.

So what have they continued doing after putting the so-called EFFC in place?

Pursuing thieves or cleaning up mess cannot be an achievement.

What mess are they cleaning by the way? Even the EFCC now has become a political APC tool used to harass the opposition.

SHAME!

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by oyoikire: 5:45am On Dec 15, 2018
naijaseeker:


I am trying to understand the argument here, first

Nobody has ever said you should close the shop and be chasing thief. Efcc, icpc and other anti corruption agencies were there to be running after thieves

However,

The first thing is stop selling or lock up your store and report the case to the police for assistance to catch the thief for you.

OK, you should not close the shop, but you should lock it up.

It was so easy when PDP was in power. We know there is corruption, we know people are looting, however Naira was stable.

Now, it is all confusing. Have we closed the shop or locked up the shop? Do we have fuel subsidy or not? Have we defeated Boko Haram? technically? Has generating power become rocket science? If the administration did not deliver, are we to vote them off as they told us to?

At the end of all these, Naira has significantly lost value, many businesses have closed shop to report to the police, the traffic held them up for 3 years at Poland, London and other places.

Eskiz, make I prepare for my own debate with my children on christmas
naira that lost value was caused by pdp stealing. Tell your people to return all dollars stolen back to treasury and see if naira will not appreciate. Jonathan and crooks stole dollars in foreign exchange from 45 to 28 because of election and you are expecting naira have value is lie. It will take some or longer period to bounce back. Businesses were closing down is a lie from pdp. Many have closed down before the election, thanks to the nature of works am doing because I knew many company that was no more in operation before the election. Many of the construction company were been owed and started packing their load before buari came in but remember that he pay them 442! Immediately he bacame the president o move them back to site. Jobs wre been lost is another propaganda by pdp. You can't compare apc that pay attention to infra structural development like roads and rials not to engage many people into one job or another. Farming has also created a lot of jobs for youth of this country more than the time of pdp. Social intervention funds like N power has created a lot of jobs for the youth compare to the time of pdp.first gold refinery will son come up, it has been launched yesterday. Just to mention a view

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by Nobody: 5:51am On Dec 15, 2018
naijaseeker:


PDP/APC argument is cheap. Atiku was in APC, many people in PDP used to be in APC and vice versa. The people instrumental in removing Jonathan were in PDP. Question is, the current administration severely criticized Jonathan, and claimed that they will turn Nigeria around within 6 months. Granted, that was not possible but they seriously lack integrity. By the way Obi was in APGA, just joined PDP.

Will Atiku/Obi do any better, very unlikely.

However PDP/APC argument is an insult to Nigerians.

Should Buhari continue ruling us from Poland, defeating Boko Haram technically and closing down Nigeria to fight corruption? Your guess is as good as mine.
I agree with you absolutely! We all know that we are not where we're supposed to be but we aren't far off. It's a case of in the absence of none, let's not go back to where we are coming from. It's crystal clear that Atiku doesn't have anything to offer, we can't afford to go back. He's just being drive by his exuberance to be in power; of course he's a known fugitive and was part of the clique that destroyed our economy. He sold many of our companies to his cronies, and bastardized the system. In fact, it's a case of anybody but Atiku/PDP.

So which is better: continue making progress while we reduce corruption to the barest minimum or go back to the era of #stealing is not corruption mantra; where the economy was in the hands of the few? The choice is ours!
Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by UncleJudax(m): 6:48am On Dec 15, 2018
ChristineC:
the cost of production in naija is higher than the cost of production and transportation of same good from China to naija. lol what a dynamic..
Blame it onlack of infrastructure. Sorting out Power alone would save a drastic effect on production costs in the land.
Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by UncleJudax(m): 6:51am On Dec 15, 2018
ChristineC:
the cost of production in naija is higher than the cost of production and transportation of same good from China to naija. lol what a dynamic..
Blame it on poor infrastructure. Sorting out Power alone would have a drastic effect on production costs in the land.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by chigoziri2403(m): 6:54am On Dec 15, 2018
gwmlogistic:

Well how about npower(sure alot of people you know benefitted)
How about trader money? (Better to give to the poor)
How about tool shops set up nation wide(check a major market close to you)
How about loans to see through ADB(I benefitted from it)
Does this sound like plans or you want me to continue,
Please come at me with facts
is trader moni the solution to Nigeria's problems, giving 10k to poor people, while they spend millions on their cronies
why don't they give their relations npower,
my brother forget it ,these are tools to keep people forever in poverty.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by chigoziri2403(m): 6:59am On Dec 15, 2018
Topmaike007:
truly with the 16 years PDP spent what was their achievement,they only good at selling our properties and now Atiku is planning on how to sell NNpc again and you think I Will vote for him God forbid..and before you quote me back I want to let you know that I am an Igbo boy From Afikpo north.
the problems of Nigeria didn't start in the last 16 years ,truth be told ,Nigeria's problems started way before PDP and buhari is part of it.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by Topmaike007(m): 8:07am On Dec 15, 2018
chigoziri2403:
the problems of Nigeria didn't start in the last 16 years ,truth be told ,Nigeria's problems started way before PDP and buhari is part of it.
okay
Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by PresidentAtiku(m): 8:08am On Dec 15, 2018
Now it is clear to all that APC and Buhari are misfits...

Time to catapult them out and let Nigeria .make progress again...

They have the award (Guiness Book of records) as the government that looked back the most to blame instead of making progress. The most confused government in the world

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by buharitill2023: 8:09am On Dec 15, 2018
naijaseeker:


They are seeking the same thing someone gives his children, and himself on tax and oil money. Education and health care. It is called empathy. If you lack it proffer a viable alternative, don't feed fat on oil and tax and think you are special. You are not.
why don't you go and be stranded in desert or are feeding fat from oil and tax money?
If we should all go and be stranded in desert because we are not feeding fat from oil and tax money,
Who will now remain in Nigeria.
Or you also encourage children of 16-19yrs to be taken girls pant to make money or kill their own money for ritual because they are not feeding fat from oil and tax money.
Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by PresidentAtiku(m): 8:18am On Dec 15, 2018
Imagine Osinbajo now defending subsidy!

Karma is unique Aswear!

With subsidy,Nigerians bought fuel at 87
With subsidy,Nigerians are buying fuel at 143

Be the judge and compare the standard of living

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by gwmlogistic: 8:42am On Dec 15, 2018
chigoziri2403:
is trader moni the solution to Nigeria's problems, giving 10k to poor people, while they spend millions on their cronies
why don't they give their relations npower,
my brother forget it ,these are tools to keep people forever in poverty.
This your response is very surprising. Social intervention is critical to any economy. Name one thriving society that does not give intervention funds to the poor? I'll be waiting.
Or tell me a better way to lift people out of poverty?
Do you know what a 10k interest free loan will do to the woman selling vegetables? You cannot over emphasis this things.
Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by naunasabi: 8:53am On Dec 15, 2018
buharitill2023:
and that same party he belong fails to do 1km of road in 16yrs

Please fear Allah. I can assure you that all the past and present government have failed Nigerians and have performed below expectations.

But saying that the last administration didn't do 1km of road in 16 years is a bold face lie.
Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by Pzman2: 8:57am On Dec 15, 2018
naunasabi:


"Fighting corruption is not an economic policy"

���� who is deceiving who!!! In this video he said there is nothing wrong in borrowing. And even said china �� �hahaha

Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by naunasabi: 8:58am On Dec 15, 2018
gwmlogistic:

This your response is very surprising. Social intervention is critical to any economy. Name one thriving society that does not give intervention funds to the poor? I'll be waiting.
Or tell me a better way to lift people out of poverty?
Do you know what a 10k interest free loan will do to the woman selling vegetables? You cannot over emphasis this things.

I see your point but what you didn't consider is the real value of that 10k and the competing interest that faces the so called vegetable seller.

If we have social structure that address those other competing interests 8 traders out 10 can make good out of the 10k. But with the prevailing situation I don't think that 8 out of those 10 petty traders will hesitate to use the money to attend to other pressing family issues that a good social structure would have mitigated.

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Re: 2019 Election: Vice Presidential Debate (Live Updates) by kelsidengkucio(m): 9:48am On Dec 15, 2018
If you close down your shop your product go expire las las

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