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Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by uniquelyspecial(m): 8:17am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Yenefer:We've heard dis before. Say something else |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by Samakus(m): 8:18am On Nov 30, 2020 |
hupo: Shows your shallowness. It is called earned allowances and each of the unions in the university is entitled to it. Each has a 2009 agreement with FG concerning it |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by olalekan1(m): 8:19am On Nov 30, 2020 |
From the beginning, we know it's all about money. |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by janvier27(m): 8:23am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Govt has been negotiating separately with the different unions, so why lump this together. Suddenly earned academic allowance has lost the word academic and changed to earned allowance. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 8:24am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Yenefer: Many ASUU members do not know the level of fraud perpetrated by VCs through GIFMIS. This does not however mean ASUU members or the union itself are corrupt. Members are more concerned about their welfare than fighting corruption. Government should hold those responsible to account so that Innocent people will not be labeled corrupt like you just did. 3 Likes |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by capitalzero: 8:24am On Nov 30, 2020 |
valentineuwakwe: Like ssanu like johesu |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by goshen26: 8:31am On Nov 30, 2020 |
They've given them money trouble on how to share money among the empty lecturers have started. If u have money send ur children abroad...the university system is designed to waste our children time |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by Lawalemi(m): 8:31am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Now, sharing money is the problem. |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by Macrofrancis(m): 8:31am On Nov 30, 2020 |
We won't want another round of strikes if this one is finally called off. |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by mvem(m): 8:31am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Samakus:it is called EAA. Earned Academic Allowances. SSANU/NASU members are not academics staff...these allowances are for excess academic workload, and other academic duties by academics staffs...so what is SSANU actually saying. They should give them academic allowances when they are non- teaching staff 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by jolyment: 8:32am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Yenefer: Do you think it's ASUU that's operating GIFMIS? |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by jolyment: 8:34am On Nov 30, 2020 |
aarin29642: Lies |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by lunacol(m): 8:38am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Oloburuiku, ndi oshi, what they know is share the money, where have SSANU been all this while, they don't care shutting down the schools that have been on one year strike again.Bunch of criminals. 1 Like |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 8:41am On Nov 30, 2020 |
DonHummer: It is not about an employee dictating to his employer; it is about the laws establishing federal universities. The universities miscellaneous act has placed the control of personnel and payroll issues of each federal university under the respective governing council. The accountant general of the federation has no legal power to take over management of personnel and payroll of any federal university because of that provision of the law. What ASUU did over the years was to remove federal universities from the control of mainstream civil service. So, federal universities are administratively independent of the mainstream civil service. An example is the appointment of VC of a federal university. The NUC, FMoE, The Senate, and The Presidency have no role whatsoever in appointing a VC of any federal university; everything begins and ends with the governing council of the university. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 8:42am On Nov 30, 2020 |
hupo: To government it is 'earned allowance', to ASUU it is 'earned academic allowance'. |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by jolyment: 8:45am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Samakus: It's earned academic allowances not for non-academic staff. |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by amerengues(m): 8:46am On Nov 30, 2020 |
So many uninformed persons out there. This isn’t about “That’s all they wanted from the beginning”. Lecturers are badly paid! Just google and see the minuscule and paltry amount they earn. After Bsc(4 years), MSc (2 years), PhD (5-6 years on average), they won’t still earn 150k as salaries. Annual increment on most cases can be as low as 21k annually divided by 12, sometimes your salary increases by 4K annually. Most of their activities which warrants a payment of allowances aren’t paid hence Earned Academic Allowances which is due. Still, with this small billion for over 90 institutions, it is still paltry. When ASUU was on strike, some other unions were paid salaries and the public hurled abusive and derogatory remarks on them. Now they are reading their head out to share equally. Please Revitalization Fund isn’t going to ASUU’ pocket at all. So the public should know what’s happening. They are scrambling for peanut compared to their counterparts. It is even shameful Those retained to lecture blamed themselves. Most have travelled or about to travel abroad 2 Likes |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by NasDayvidt: 8:54am On Nov 30, 2020 |
hupo: The University based unions are all entitled to the Earned Allowances. I doubt if there's anything Earned 'Academic' Allowance as far as the FGN 2009 Agreement is concerned with all the unions that signed the document. Other non teaching staff unions had conducted their negotiations with government after their 14 day warning strike before the covid 19 episode took over. They decided to reason with the government and had been engaging on several occasions before now. It is not as if ASUU had been slugging out alone. Theirs is just too pronounce because of downing the tools however the FG through the Minister of Labour has categorically emphasized the fund is for all the university based unions to share. There are occasions that SSANU, NASU, and NAAT have fought the government in the past and it benefited everyone in the system. So all of them have been negotiating with government using different approaches. |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 8:56am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Samakus: You have some points there. But the money is 'earned'. They should present evidence that they have earned it rather come to the media to seek for public sympathy. One of the major component of earned allowance is 'excess workload allowance'. Everything concerning teaching in federal universities is governed by NUC regulations. An academic staff is expected to have a certain contact hour per week. A class is expected to have a certain number of students depending on the programme. An academic staff is also expected to mark a certain number of scripts per semester. We all know these regulations are not strictly adhered to by our universities. So, an academic staff will naturally accumulate these allowances over a period of time. For non-teaching staff, they are like mainstream civil service expect for academic technologists. They are employed to work 8am to 4pm. Most of the NUC regulations does not apply to them. And remember for every 3 academic staff there should be 1 non-teaching staff. I am sure you and I know that this is not what is obtainable in our universities. Based on above factors their earned allowances will generally be low compared to academic staff because of the parameters used in computing the allowances. The 20% being given to them is generous. They should provide empirical evidence with necessary data if they feel they are cheated not mare media propaganda. 3 Likes |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 9:01am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Samakus: You are right it is 'earned allowance'. So let them go and prove that they have 'earned' it rather than come to the media. It is not the public that shares the money. 1 Like |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by rant19ade: 9:05am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Be like all this ones dey craze, when ASUU go 9months strike and ppl were abusing them of being selfish, being cowards they did not fight. Now ASUU have managed to secure some funds they are coming out talking about sharing formula, they better start their own strike to fight for their rights. Crazy cowards, when they said nobody should join ippis they went ahead now they want to enjoy from what others fought for. 2 Likes |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 9:05am On Nov 30, 2020 |
janvier27: Each union negotiated earned allowance with FGN. That of ASUU members has 'academic' added to it. While other unions negotiate earned allowance for their members ONLY, all other unions gets something whenever ASUU negotiates earned allowance with government. They deserve something but certainly not above the traditional 20% being given to them. If they have reservations they should prove that they deserve more than that. In my center none of them has outstanding earned allowance claim with the exception of senior academic technologists. 2 Likes |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by loko50(m): 9:05am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Samakus: It is EAA not EA, barawo |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 9:09am On Nov 30, 2020 |
mvem: No. The general name is EARNED ALLOWANCE. That of ASUU members is EARNED ACADEMIC ALLOWANCE. The 40bn offered by FGN is made up of computation for ALL unions in the universities based on 2018 forensic audit report. So the issue is not about whether or not they should be given, they are contesting the percentage allocated to them. They should provide evidence that they earned more. 1 Like |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by bahaushe1: 9:16am On Nov 30, 2020 |
NasDayvidt: The agreements are separate. What ASUU negotiated is earned academic allowance. No one is saying other unions will not benefit from the 40bn. But SSANU is contesting the 20% that is traditionally allocated to non-teaching staff. This is not how to approach the issue. The allowance is 'earned' and SSANU should therefore present empirical evidence if they believed they deserved more than 20%. 1 Like |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by Fatfab(m): 9:17am On Nov 30, 2020 |
school calendar should be there first priority but no dey are talking abt how to share the 40 billions. chai....... dis country is in mess state. CHECK MY SIGNATURE |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by Nobody: 9:17am On Nov 30, 2020 |
kambili999:My dear it won't o... deep down this ASUU guys are just after there own selfish interest. Rehabilitating the university is never there priority... |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by Samakus(m): 9:18am On Nov 30, 2020 |
bahaushe1: Wonderful. Truly, we're all corrupt in this country. Anyways, no need fighting online. The real fight comes soon |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by emmasege: 9:23am On Nov 30, 2020 |
inteli:I wonder o. Where was this useless SSANU when ASUU was fighting against IPPIS and for the earned allowances? Do they teach students? Do they supervise B.Sc., M.Sc. and PhD students? They have enjoyed their IPPIS salaries till date while ASUU members are being owed from 5-9 months of salaries. 2 Likes |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by Olude193: 9:23am On Nov 30, 2020 |
hupo: Don't mind them.. They always suffering from inferiority complex 2 Likes |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by emmasege: 9:28am On Nov 30, 2020 |
bahaushe1:Lie!!! It is called EARNED ACADEMIC ALLOWANCE from the onset, and if the non-academics also feel entitled, they can also call it EARNED NON-ACADEMIC ALLOWANCE. I think that appellation even sounds better as it will tell them how unjust their fight is. Their job is purely administrative and not different from the civil service, but that's not the case for academics who teach and supervise students, examine students and still conduct research. 1 Like |
Re: SSANU Warns Against ‘unjust’ Sharing Of N40bn Earned Allowances by scokoro: 9:29am On Nov 30, 2020 |
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