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Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by achorladey: 9:07pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I thought na only you get fingers to type these kind of things you call compliment 1 Like
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Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 9:18pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
freshboi88: I have responded to your post. Abeg carry your school boy rants outta here. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 9:30pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Talking about hypocrisy, here you have it! Who is the most casualty of the Covid19 pandemic between the whole world and JWs? The information below is enough for your hypocrisy. "In November 2020, an Announcement advised that 130,000 Jehovah's Witnesses had been infected with Covid-19 and over 5,000 had died. Once again, infection and mortality rates amongst Jehovah's Witnesses continued to be higher than global averages. Using 2019 publisher figures, 1.5% of Jehovah's Witnesses had contracted the virus, of which 3.8% died. Global figures at the time were an infection rate of 0.6% and 2.5% death rate. A confidential letter addressed To All Special Full-time Servants At Bethel And In The Field, dated August 6, 2021, advised that nearly 20,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died. This means that 0.236% of Jehovah's Witnesses have died of Covid-19, over 4 times higher than the global rate in August 2021 of 0.051%." Not to even talk about the world government that your demonic organization always wash down as being controlled by Satan is the same one your demonic organization turned to for Covid19 treatment. 2 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:31pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Janosky: Instead of going to practice their religion the best way they know the only thing that comes to their brains is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" They thought we're like them that love arguing without a purpose!
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Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 9:35pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Janosky: You didn't, no wonder you're crying up and down on this thread Let me rephrase the question, Jesus said "Whatever the Father does, the Son also does" So can you point out where the scripture recorded the Father doing ANYTHING from Genesis to Revelation? 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:36pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Have you gotten the proof for the allegation? If Yes please present it so that we can chat but if not abeg go and sleep! Emusan:
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Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by achorladey: 9:39pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Emusan: At the moment using style style to tell members to get vaccinated to have further privilege of service paapaa. The same Satan's organisation provided ZOOM for their meetings which they see as Jehovah's blessing 2 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by achorladey: 9:44pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: At your meetings your brain always go after LIE LIE Christians(pidgin) abi? Instead of going to practice their religion the best way they know They do practice it the best way they know but the same you will call them NOISEMAKERS for doing so. Na so your thinking be. Back and forth. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 9:46pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: If we didn't practice our Christianity being the true followers of Christ, will you have right to join that demonic organization and worship freely? They thought we're like them that love arguing without a purpose! Only if you have an iota of shame, you won't be repeating this line that openly exposed your lying mouth. Your new account hasn't reached a year but you have made post more than people who opened their accounts 5years ago. So who is arguing shamelessly? Who doesn't have life outside Nairaland? Who spent all his days fruitlessly on Nairaland? 3 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 9:48pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
sagenaija:#1 Examine these few examples in the KJV Bible Screenshots. How come your own Bible missed out with the exact Hebrew name for Jerusalem, [b]Jeremiah, Jesus, Jude, Joshua, John, Jonathan, Judah ,Joel etc? Bros, remove the rafters in your own eyes. You know that Charity begins at home. #2 See who is talking about DOGMA ! How come your own Trinitarian Bibles removed the Tetragrammaton YHWH from all the old testament quotations in the New Testament? How come your Trinitarian Bibles removed Greek Gehenna & Tartarus in your new Testament Bibles? Look at your Trinitarian Greek lexicon Screenshot How come your Trinitarian Bibles removed Greek 3588 ("the" where this precedes Theos (Greek 2316) in all your wishy washy Greek lexicon ? Did any genuine Greek manuscript remove Greek 3588 ? NWT, Emphatic Diaglott , Moffat, Goodspeed and the Coptic Sahidic Bibles are very very close to the Greek manuscript than any of your Trinitarian Bible translations. Therefore, Sagenaija claim is NOT true.[/b]
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Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 9:51pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Mr Ponzi scheme promoter well-done Who is chatting with you I've told you I'm here to be exposing your lies. People can see your hypocrisy, your demonic organization recorded more Covid19 casualty than anybody but yet you think that's the best line you can use in your fruitless arguments. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by achorladey: 9:52pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Emusan: Who create Bible study thread on APOSTATES/ATHEIST(according to Max/religious leaders) websites? Who go about shouting workers of INIQUITY/LAWLESSNESS when he cannot follow the simple of instruction of JESUS REPRESENTATIVES/JESUS on not welcoming POISONS from those they call APOSTATES. |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 10:00pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Emusan: Rants of a sifia pained LIENUS 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by freshboi88: 10:01pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Janosky: ..... with that weak response of imitate that even a school boy knows that it doesn't mean the ability to do whatever the original can do........ So since I quashed that Tell me why can Jesus do all that God can do..... Meaning if God can create the world, Jesus too can do so in like manner If Jehovah is Omniscient, Jesus also is Omniscient If Jehovah is omnipresent, Jesus too is omnipresent If Jehovah knows all things Jesus too knows all things No wonder Jesus here says John 14: 23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Janosky what kind of power will Jesus have that he will like Jehovah be able to dwell at same time with all who obey his teachings ? Notice that Jesus uses We and not He. So how can Jesus who is an angel dwell or abide together with Jehovah at the same time in all those who obey him ? Wouldn't that make him omnipresent ?....I am just asking 3 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 10:12pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Emusan: Matthew 19:4-5 & Genesis 5:1-2 John 12:28 Father, glorify Your name!" Then a voice came from heaven: "I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again" Matthew 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!" Mark 1:11 And a voice came from heaven: "You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased." Sifia pained pagan polytheist |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 10:34pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
freshboi88:#1 No wonder Jesus says @John 14:28 "the Father is greater than I am" #2 No wonder Jesus says @John 9:4 "WE are doing the work of Him that sent me" No wonder Jesus says @ John 17:6-7, "Father, you gave them to me. They were yours". #3 No wonder Jesus says @ Matthew 24:36 "only the Father knows" Will Fresh WAILER receive SENSE? |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 10:40pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Janosky: So Father speaking from heaven is what Jesus meant when he said "Whatever the Son SEES the Father doing, the Son can do also" So Jesus while on earth can also speak from heaven like the Father which then means Jesus is both God and man as the scripture affirmed JaNosense can't bear this pain again. You and your darling father the devil always loss whenever it comes to The kind of Glory, the Creator of the Universe and the Alpha and Omega issue 2 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 10:43pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Janosky: I know you can't help your Ponzi scheme brother here and the thing really put sand for una garri 2 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 10:50pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
sagenaija:Bros, console yourself jare. It's allowed |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by sagenaija: 10:59pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Another Deceit of Jehovah's Witnesses Since JW believe that Jesus is only an angel and deny his deity they have to twist the portions of scriptures where God is said to have paid for man's sin with his blood. So, still engaging in their DOGMA-INFLUENCED approach to translation to render Acts 20:28 Instead of following the Greek which will result in it being worded as: Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. Acts 20:28 NIV They render the verse as: "Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own Son. Because if they use the Greek construct of "his own blood" it will puncture their position of Jesus as Archangel Michael, they switch that part to: "the blood of his own Son". The word "Son" is just NOT THERE in the Greek. Putting it there happens when a person or group approach God's word on the basis of their preconceived theological leanings. This is what the Jehovah's Witnesses have done here. Can MaxinDHouse, janosky and DappaD tell us where "Son" came from to enter into the picture here. If a group can be so DECEITFUL and disingenuous here what else can't they twist to conform to their DOGMA? Cc: Bishopkingsley, freshboi88, Emusan, archorladey, awitness41, 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:07pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
sagenaija: JW is a cult they know it a cult that why they preach organization rather than Jesus Cult is sweet that why they can't leave even when they see truth 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by freshboi88: 11:08pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Janosky: Piece of cake.... #1. Father is greater than he is because he has willingly put away his glory. Did Jesus and Jehovah share the same glory before he became man ? Yes....I will quote your own translation cos I love how u guys render this verse, could never be more clearer. NWT John 17:5 So now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.+ Now it makes perfect sense why the Father is greater than Jesus. That is because he set aside the glory he has alongside Jehovah to become a servant. #2 As a trinitarian I expect to find this. So this doesn't prove anything. My earthly can send me on assignments or ask me to cater for certain people does it mean he is greater than me in value or essence or in our humanity? No!.....he is only greater than me in rank and position. Just as u obey your boss in the office. Nothing new! #3 For number 3, let me use your own wrapped interpretation against u. Rev 19:12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. [/b]13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and [b]his name is the Word of God @bolded no1: using your logic, do u agree that Jehovah doesn't know the name written on Jesus? 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 11:49pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
freshboi88:#1 John 17:24 , the glory Jesus confessed he was given. The same glory Jesus would share with the disciples. Everything belongs to his God and Father, 1 Corinthians 3:23 #2 Has God his Father ever obeyed Jesus? Man pass man, ho Theos Supreme Being pass every other spirit. Fresh WAILER without SENSE #3 Revelation 3:12, 1 Corinthians15:27,his God and Father knows. You already said his Father is greater than Jesus. Matthew 20:18, What can Jesus hide from his God &Father? John 5:19 & John 15:15, who is teaching Jesus? Fresh WAILER without SENSE . |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by DappaD: 11:56pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Hello! I thought this topic was already done and dusted, so why are you still quoting me? I haven’t found time to read all the comments here but I already have a condensed understanding of what’s going on—you keep jumping from pillar to post, even if it means you deny God exists, so that you can contrast what the Witnesses teach. I’m going to reply this real quick and this should be my last reply on this thread and afterwards, quote me all you want but I’m unfollowing the thread for good this time. Concerning your question, maybe you should go interview the editors of the Contemporary English Version, Good News Bible or the New English Translation Bibles and ask them why they rendered the ending of that verse, “with the blood of his own Son” Remember the editors of those aforementioned Bible translations are not Witnesses, in fact they are your fellow Trinitarians. The context support the view that Paul was referring to God’s Son rather than God because Romans 8:32 uses similar Greek wording which fills up for the confusion at Acts 20:28. That’s my own reply to you, I’m not responsible for whether you accept it or not, sagenaija. After all I noticed that you have no care in the world for truth so anyways I’ve dropped my two cents(1Peter 3:15) and I’m leaving the thread after this. Again, there’s this popular saying I’m so much in love with, “Talk is cheap but actions are priceless!” so if anyone likes, call me cultist o, zombie o, brainwashed o—superior wisdom is always going to vindicate herself by her righteous works(Matthew 11:19) so all these arguments are actually fruitless on your part because I’m never ever going to let go off the most precious pearl I found in Jehovah’s organization(Proverbs 23:23) which I diligently searched for until I found it. Matthew 13:46 So I don’t want to argue further with you, leave me alone. Life is about choices, I got to make the choice to serve Jehovah my God(Joshua 24:15) while you also make choices in your own life. I do not get to infringe upon your life choices and neither do you. Good bye. sagenaija: |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Janosky: 11:59pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
sagenaija:Did Jesus, Martha, John and Paul reject your claim @ Acts 20:28? John 11:26, Jesus the son of God coming into the world" Galatians 4:4 & Romans 20:28 would Paul contradict himself? Would Paul converted by Jesus contradict Jesus @ John 3:16 & John 20:17? Acts 20:28, Complete Jewish Bible is the Koko. Afterall, they should know better. Do your Trinitarian devotees and Bible scholars agree with your Acts 20:28? Emphatic no ! Some manuscripts read "Church of the Lord" others read "Church of God." Bros, know it today,go & research it, your Trinitarian devotees disagree on how Paul penned those words. Romans 8:32 & Galatians 4:4 from Paul's exposition settled the matter. NWT,CJB CEV are correct. |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:50am On Aug 25, 2021 |
Janosky:It's several months ago now that he laid the accusation and promised to bring the evidence but ever since then he just kept repeating himself without bringing the proof. So i decided to keep him on the waiting list, it's either he apologizes for accusing me wrongly or continue arguing with himself. They're all thirsty for the water but they don't want to COME and buy it freely {Revelations 22:17} they prefer the torment experienced by their brother in Jesus' illustration! Luke 16:24-26 |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15am On Aug 25, 2021 |
sagenaija: I've told you times without number that there is this great chasm (heart condition) of JWs and you people {Luke 16:26} as long as you're not ready to be IDENTIFIED with an organized group practicing what you claim you believe your Interpretation will never make any sense to us! That's what Jesus meant by the illustration of Lazarus and the rich man. Luke 16:19-31 Judgment has begun since 1914 when Jesus started separating his sheep from the goats. Matthew 25:31-33 The goats are individuals claiming Christians but aren't submissive to any organized group, all what each of them want is to be revered in isolation as a servant of his/her own God. The sheep on the other hand are individuals claiming Christians as well but are always having the feelings for a need to be in the company of their fellow believers. Your Interpretation or understanding of what you're reading in the Bible will only make sense to people like you, who also doesn't feel like being submissive in the gathering of any organized group: GOATS While our own Interpretation or understanding of the scriptures will only make sense to people who love worshiping in the gathering of those having the same line of thought: SHEEP So Mr sajenaija, we have heard you and your friends. Truthfully speaking we appreciate your efforts in reading and trying to digest the message in our book (Bible) but before we take you people seriously Please! Please!! Please!!! PRESENT a GROUP of people who are PRACTICING what you're saying, even if we don't want to accept your Interpretation or argument we may be compelled to reason along with you people after SEEING the fine WORKS of God's Holy Spirit in your gathering! Matthew 7:16-18 compare to 1Peter 2:12 Thank you! |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by Bishopkingsley(m): 5:38am On Aug 25, 2021 |
As long as you keep looking for a group to belong to and so long as you hate to acknowledge Jesus you will remain out side of the truth There is no group or church that can save you if there was then the death of Jesus is in vain So like we have told you what is obtainable in the scriptures is what we declare to you we are the body of Christ only Jesus can save you without Jesus you will be living life but not have eternal life in you The body of Christ are the children of God this are those God poured out his holy spirit as a drink offering to, the body of Christ are those filled by the holy spirit presence with the ability to speak in tongues All the children of God have the holy spirit living inside them so where ever they are they have drank from that same spirit of God we are one in the same spirit because we have the same Holy Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead That is what makes us unique no matter where we are or the church we attend we all are Baptised into the same holy spirit Baptism the holy spirit Baptism is the real baptism not John's baptism We are the Israel of God that is how God design it so you can't see it just as Jesus said because the holy spirit lives inside each one of us until you understand what we speak before you can have what we have And you can't even understand what we say if God did not draw you to himself you can't understand this things if you are not called by God because he gives the holy spirit to those who he has predestined to those who he prepared it for before the foundation of the world Our job is to declare it it not by power it is not by might it is by the spirit of God says the lord God almighty 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by KNOWMORE56: 7:06am On Aug 25, 2021 |
sagenaija: "...consultation... |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by freshboi88: 7:22am On Aug 25, 2021 |
Janosky: Tap dancing as usual. #1 Why can Jesus do all that Jehovah can do ? John 5:19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. @,bold 1, you cannot answer...answer it and shame the devil your father #2 Does your CEO take orders from u....does that make him more human than u ? #3 John 16:30 Now we know that You know all things, and have no need for anyone to question You; by this we believe that You came from God.” John 21:17 Verse Concepts He *said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus *said to him, “Tend My sheep. Does Jesus know all things ? And will d day and the hour of his return be included in all things or excluded..... Mumu reading Bible like story book |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by KNOWMORE56: 7:24am On Aug 25, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: "...There is no group or church that can save you if there was then the death of Jesus is in vain..." He (maxInDHouse) has made his organization an idol. He has severally wanted to drag others into the same idolatry by asking SHOW ME A BETTER PERFORMING GROUP... but we know ( we are not assuming, we are not thinking) that THERE IS NO OTHER NAME ON EARTH THAT CAN SAVE THE SINNER, ONLY THE NAME JESUS! *. Acts 4:12 "KJV: Neither is there salvation in any other : for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." 3 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ by achorladey: 9:17am On Aug 25, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: In other words....... Acts 4:12 "KJV: Neither is there salvation in any other (establishment or an organization or groups or better performing group : for there is none other name(Jehovah's witnesses or WTBTS or visible organization other Christian denominations) under heaven given among men(Faithful and discreet slave or Governing body of WTBTS, pope, G. O) , whereby we must be saved." 1 Like |
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