Vintagepipes:

.......True [Clarke (1848)]
..... courtesy @ekealterego, cc @slayerforever, @igboid, @ofoigbo

I think what happened with all these tribes was that majority of them were Igbos but allowed their language to be displaced. So today the Igbo still exists but as second language.

SlayerForever:



I think what happened with all these tribes was that majority of them were Igbos but allowed their language to be displaced. So today the Igbo still exists but as second language.

I think the right word should be first language because they don't learn it from other Igbo people or are forced to learn/speak. They learn the Igbo language at home as first language but few are compelled to speak another thing as official/working language.
For example, the local markets in Bonny and Nembe are highly dominated by the locals, so any language that dominates there is their first.
Since it is Igbo, that is their first. Only God knows the people that speak the funny one and the circumstances they speak it.

BKayy:

"Opobo" Ijaw name?
Read this.

cc Ofoigbo, Ekealterego, Slayerforever.

Opobo was named after the house Jaja took over. Opubo hano pepple(Perekule) house you dunce.
opubo was renamed Opobo by the English.

BKayy:

Oru was never and will never be Ijaw.

The question that should be asked concerning the Comparison of Words Baikie got from Isuama, Oru and Nembe Districts and the one he got from Pepple is not whether Bonny is Igbo but how Igbo Nembe is

SlayerForever has been saying this, Nnamdi Kanu has been hammering on it but now it is becoming obvious to the blind. Judging from the attack on Nembe Palace by the Youths and the language spoken in the Video with the report from Baikie, One need to ask himself "when Nembe started being Ijaw"

Baikie stated that "Throughout the district of Nembe, Oru and Bonny all spoke but one language"
From his report and the words he got from Pepple, that is three (Nembe, Oru and Isuama) are what he saw while that of Bonny was what he got from Pepple in a haste , one will notice that Nembe and Oru spoke in FULL IGBO.
The question is where are the words spoken today in Bonny there?
The answer is still from Baikie's book. Look at the part he described the condition he met Pepple. His health and otherwise.

Having said that, I will like to clarify the "idol" part where he recorded "ọwụ" for Nembe and Oru but juju for Bonny and Isuama.
The ọwụ he recorded for Nembe and Oru is still Igbo (Aboh dialect) for charm. Northern Igbo call it "ọgwụ"

The "orisa" part is obvious Igbo as recorded in the book. The people of Aboh call God "Orisa".
Most of Northern Igboland maintain the word "Olisa" for God. That's why we have the name NwaOlisa, Olisa etc.

Ekealterego, Ofoigbo and Igboid , are you guys seeing undeniable facts in SlayerForever and MNK's ascertion in the Igboness of Nembe and Parts of Bayelsa respectively?

lol...
I froze the most dullest clown in your circus after obliterating him with his bomb and for long no mentions and then you came up with this stupidity to change the course of the debate by saying ijo isn't Oru? JANK23H please come and see these chameleon now changing the course of the argument, now he claims my Nembe is Igbo...my own clan o, chei LMAO.
if this was a law court, the judge would throw you out.
now you are shifting Oru away from ijo for the first time since I in particular have been saying it, it didn't bother you, now you want to change the course of the blunder from your clown ofoigbo.
father lord...
Nembe is my Language you dunce.. Oru is ijo and Oru means a god or a deity.
get out of here you swerving chameleon.

chameleons...
ofoigbo blew their lies on Bonny, now viewing down the pages, the new lane now is
"Nembe is Igbo"
"Oru isn't ijo"
bunch of 419ers
I won't continue with this again.
they all used discussions to cover their dead end on Bonny, now it's Nembe they want to claim.
now I know you all are drug addicts.

Alabo7978:

Smh...Somebody help this man, anyone.
Look at each top of the column and tell the names of the language written ontop.
Is it jaundice or glaucoma your problem?
LOOK AT THE TOP OF EACH ROLE;
LORD HAVE MERCY!
There are English Igbo ibane newcalabar ,,Nembe,, oru

Under English are listed (water, fire firewood etc)
Under IBO(minyi, oku, etc)
Under ebane (Mingi fene etc)
Nembe (mindi etc
Under Oru (megi etc)

THE ONES I BRACKETED ARE THE ONES ALL OF THE ROLES RHYME.

THEN LOOK AT THE NUMBERING SYSTEM (Which CLEARLY is trying to show you the DIFFERENCE) not how it correspond, IT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

open your eyes.
English(1,2,3,4,5 etc
Bonny (nge, nme, Tere, eni, sonna, suniu etc)
Igbo (otu, abo, ato, ano, ese is, asa etc)

Oboy,,
How does that above rhyme?
Me as a Nembe man we count
Nembe (kio Mai trai eni sonna sonio, sonomai
Okrika is similar too.
Calabari is the same with with Bonny.

Why are you like this?

Your dunce level is off the scale.

I have even boxed it in red, the text after the table you are talking about, so you will see that table was just created by Baikie to show the relationship between those languages.

But the table of more importance to me is the second table, which the Igbo former king of Bonny, King Pepple, supplied both the Igbo and the Ibani numbering systems.

I don't know the level of stupidity that you possess. But I will keep helping. Maybe eventually you will start worshipping us like your forebears did, before you.

Till today, you still haven't been able to show us from any pre-Nigerian document, where it is stated that the Jos were the foundation of Bonny.
So far, we have showed you multiple sources from neutral observers.

All these your gragra ends here. When the time comes, Igbos have what it takes to reclaim all our lands.

Basically Ndoki and Ngwa Igbos populated those areas. And you can do nothing about this very irrevocable fact

Alabo7978:
chameleons...
ofoigbo blew their lies on Bonny, now viewing down the pages, the new lane now is
"Nembe is Igbo"
"Oru isn't ijo"
bunch of 419ers
I won't continue with this again.
they all used discussions to cover their dead end on Bonny, now it's Nembe they want to claim.
now I know you all are drug addicts.

.....Why are you throwing tantrums.

........ There might be another Oru, but Oru I know is 101% Igbo. They have or had a strong riverine culture.

...... You find Oru in Oru East and West (Imo), Ogaba-Oru, ORUmba, ORLU.

They are either called ORU-Igbo or OLU or Orsu

.....One of the most distinct Oru groups in Imo state today is Oguta. They call themselves ORU till today, places like Eziorsu (The central Oru), Orsuobodo/Oruobodo (ORU Town).

Onitsha is a mixture of Oru people.

Alabo7978:

lol...
I froze the most dullest clown in your circus after obliterating him with his bomb and for long no mentions and then you came up with this stupidity to change the course of the debate by saying ijo isn't Oru? JANK23H please come and see these chameleon now changing the course of the argument, now he claims my Nembe is Igbo...my own clan o, chei LMAO.
if this was a law court, the judge would throw you out.
now you are shifting Oru away from ijo for the first time since I in particular have been saying it, it didn't bother you, now you want to change the course of the blunder from your clown ofoigbo.
father lord...
Nembe is my Language you dunce.. Oru is ijo and Oru means a god or a deity.
get out of here you swerving chameleon.

Emotional outbursts change Nothing.
Nobody is doubting your personal Jo man ancestry. Not me or anybody here but the indigenes of Nembe as reported by Baikie spoke in Igbo.
Care to explain
Ute
Orisa
ọwu etc that was reported by Baikie?

Alabo7978:

lol...
I froze the most dullest clown in your circus after obliterating him with his bomb and for long no mentions and then you came up with this stupidity to change the course of the debate by saying ijo isn't Oru? JANK23H please come and see these chameleon now changing the course of the argument, now he claims my Nembe is Igbo...my own clan o, chei LMAO.
if this was a law court, the judge would throw you out.
now you are shifting Oru away from ijo for the first time since I in particular have been saying it, it didn't bother you, now you want to change the course of the blunder from your clown ofoigbo.
father lord...
Nembe is my Language you dunce.. Oru is ijo and Oru means a god or a deity.
get out of here you swerving chameleon.

Na today you dey hear am?

Some days Nembe,Okrika and Kalabari are Igbos,and some days they are Ijos.

Watch how they will look for ways to divorce Oru from Ijo.

These guys have issues I swear.I told you they constantly shift their arguments.

You never SheeShomtin.

BKayy:

Emotional outbursts change Nothing.
Nobody is doubting your personal Jo man ancestry. Not me or anybody here but the indigenes of Nembe as reported by Baikie spoke in Igbo.
Care to explain
Ute
Orisa
ọwu etc that was reported by Baikie?

shatapp.
orisa is wrong, we call God Ayiba.

now you're no longer interested in Bonny?
after ofoigbo drowned your lies by giving me another evidence after the first one from Ekealterego.

now it's nembe.
owu means juju or water spirit, in long form "owuamapu"
come on getawt of here.
changers of narrative.
yorubas call deity or a god orisa or orisha.
why dem no claim too?

you have dumped Bonny agenda now to face Nembe. meth is really bad.

OfoIgbo:


Your dunce level is off the scale.

I have even boxed it in red, the text after the table you are talking about, so you will see that table was just created by Baikie to show the relationship between those languages.

But the table of more importance to me is the second table, which the Igbo former king of Bonny, King Pepple, supplied both the Igbo and the Ibani numbering systems.

I don't know the level of stupidity that you possess. But I will keep helping. Maybe eventually you will start worshipping us like your forebears did, before you.

Till today, you still haven't been able to show us from any pre-Nigerian document, where it is stated that the Jos were the foundation of Bonny.
So far, we have showed you multiple sources from neutral observers.

All these your gragra ends here. When the time comes, Igbos have what it takes to reclaim all our lands.

Basically Ndoki and Ngwa Igbos populated those areas. And you can do nothing about this very irrevocable fact

it seems your jaundice clears once in a while...
now you dullard, does all those words rhyme with the Igbo tongue??
answer the question!
look at Nembe, look at new calabar which is very similar to Bonny (infact the same)
look at Oru which is ijo.

now will you claim ijo too as under Igbo?
getawt..

Alabo7978:

shatapp.
orisa is wrong, we call God Ayiba.

now you're no longer interested in Bonny?
after ofoigbo drowned your lies by giving me another evidence after the first one from Ekealterego.

now it's nembe.
owu means juju or water spirit, in long form "owuamapu"
come on getawt of here.
changers of narrative.
yorubas call deity or a god orisa or orisha.
why dem no claim too?

you have dumped Bonny agenda now to face Nembe. meth is really bad.

That was how you people changed Pepple to "Perekule"
So you are saying that we are all blind or that Baikie don't know what he heard around Nembe and Oru-Igbo?

He said that "throughout all the district all but one language is spoken" and from what we saw Orisa, Ute, Mingi/mmiri, ọwụ/ọgwụ proves it.

All is Igbo, and if you read the appendix, you will see that he wrote in comparison with Igbo in general of which he chose Isuama dialect.
In the book he recognised Aboh as having control over most of those parts and Bonny people calling a part of Oru "Aboh nta" which means "smaller Aboh" in Igboland language and the real Aboh "Aboh ba" which means "Greater Aboh" in the same Igbo Language.

Now what concerns your own ancestors Jo men in all this?

Alabo7978:
chameleons...
ofoigbo blew their lies on Bonny, now viewing down the pages, the new lane now is
"Nembe is Igbo"
"Oru isn't ijo"
bunch of 419ers
I won't continue with this again.
they all used discussions to cover their dead end on Bonny, now it's Nembe they want to claim.
now I know you all are drug addicts.

They've been saying Nembe is Igbo for sometime, although sometimes backtracking.They dug out a phony video showing supposed Nembe boys speaking Igbo and destroying a king's palace.I thought you saw all that.

They sit somewhere in the SE and allocate lands to themselves.I showed a video of Kolokuma and Nembe counting,they calmed a bit and then continued their rubbish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh6j1H1k-5o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FqulHr-Mq0

JANK23H:

They've been saying Nembe is Igbo for sometime, although sometimes backtracking.They dug out a phony video showing supposed Nembe boys speaking Igbo and destroying a king's palace.I thought you saw all that.

They sit somewhere in the SE and allocate lands to themselves.I showed a video of Kolokuma and Nembe counting,they calmed a bit and then continued their rubbish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh6j1H1k-5o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FqulHr-Mq0

You mean one of your Cultural genocide tools?
I am surprised you pirates haven't done video for Bonny. Imagine teaching people new language to speak as mother tongue.

Even your Bayelsa state listed Nembe and Ijaw as two distinct and separate languages. One is Igboid while the Other is not even close to anything in Nigeria.

Mother tongue is not learnt on YouTube but what an individual learn after birth.

BKayy:

You mean one of your Cultural genocide tools?
I am surprised you pirates haven't done video for Bonny. Imagine teaching people new language to speak as mother tongue.

Even your Bayelsa state listed Nembe and Ijaw as two distinct and separate languages. One is Igboid while the Other is not even close to anything in Nigeria.

Mother tongue is not learnt on YouTube but what an individual learn after birth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_EBijbQyU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MoBZrSmJw

BKayy:

That was how you people changed Pepple to "Perekule"
So you are saying that we are all blind or that Baikie don't know what he heard around Nembe and Oru-Igbo?

He said that "throughout all the district all but one language is spoken" and from what we saw Orisa, Ute, Mingi/mmiri, ọwụ/ọgwụ proves it.

All is Igbo, and if you read the appendix, you will see that he wrote in comparison with Igbo in general of which he chose Isuama dialect.
In the book he recognised Aboh as having control over most of those parts and Bonny people calling a part of Oru "Aboh nta" which means "smaller Aboh" in Igboland language and the real Aboh "Aboh ba" which means "Greater Aboh" in the same Igbo Language.

Now what concerns your own ancestors Jo men in all this?

mumu, Perekule was his original name.
Pepple was the name the Brits gavehim.
This your baikie.

JANK23H:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_EBijbQyU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MoBZrSmJw

Watched the two videos but can't see anywhere they said that it is directed to a particular town or village unlike Jo men's Genocidal Videos and posts like this.

BKayy:

That was how you people changed Pepple to "Perekule"
So you are saying that we are all blind or that Baikie don't know what he heard around Nembe and Oru-Igbo?

He said that "throughout all the district all but one language is spoken" and from what we saw Orisa, Ute, Mingi/mmiri, ọwụ/ọgwụ proves it.

All is Igbo, and if you read the appendix, you will see that he wrote in comparison with Igbo in general of which he chose Isuama dialect.
In the book he recognised Aboh as having control over most of those parts and Bonny people calling a part of Oru "Aboh nta" which means "smaller Aboh" in Igboland language and the real Aboh "Aboh ba" which means "Greater Aboh" in the same Igbo Language.

Now what concerns your own ancestors Jo men in all this?

Lol @ Oru-igbo

This is a recent one o

Alabo7978:

it seems your jaundice clears once in a while...
now you dullard, does all those words rhyme with the Igbo tongue??
answer the question!
look at Nembe, look at new calabar which is very similar to Bonny (infact the same)
look at Oru which is ijo.

now will you claim ijo too as under Igbo?
getawt..

You have now completely deviated because we have whooped you silly.

Show us evidence that the original Ubanis were Jos.
That is all you need to do.

So far multiple Igbo origin evidence have been forwarded to this group. Our bible was written with an Igbo king of Ubani, helping to request for that project. The Igbo king of Bonny did not ask for a Jo-men bible.

When you have evidence of Jo-men origins for Ubani, you can come for us to still obliterate you.

Meanwhile, you drunkard god Alagoa has been sunken by proper educated peers of his.

JANK23H:

Lol @ Oru-igbo

This a recent one o

You were saying?

OfoIgbo:


You have now completely deviated because we have whooped you silly.

Show us evidence that the original Ubanis were Jos.
That is all you need to do.

So far multiple Igbo origin evidence have been forwarded to this group. Our bible was written with an Igbo king of Ubani, helping to request for that project. The Igbo king of Bonny did not ask for a Jo-men bible.

When you have evidence of Jo-men origins for Ubani, you can come for us to still obliterate you.

Meanwhile, you drunkard god Alagoa has been sunken by proper educated peers of his.

Erm....by the way,with all these outstanding findings from Crow and Co.When are you approaching the International court of whatever for settlement?

JANK23H:


Erm....by the way,with all these outstanding findings from Crow and Co.When are you approaching the International court of whatever for settlement?

Actually, Ndigbo won't need International Court when the time comes because we will gain more from physical confrontation.

BKayy:

You were saying?

abegi shift......

Like you would say,show us excerpts from a neutral source,from the 15th century to 18th century

All these Igbo doctored work dey pain my eye.

If make me vex, I'll bring out Alagoa's books now.

BKayy:

Actually, Ndigbo won't need International Court when the time comes because we will gain more from physical confrontation.

When will you start?

OfoIgbo:


You have now completely deviated because we have whooped you silly.

Show us evidence that the original Ubanis were Jos.
That is all you need to do.

So far multiple Igbo origin evidence have been forwarded to this group. Our bible was written with an Igbo king of Ubani, helping to request for that project. The Igbo king of Bonny did not ask for a Jo-men bible.

When you have evidence of Jo-men origins for Ubani, you can come for us to still obliterate you.

Meanwhile, you drunkard god Alagoa has been sunken by proper educated peers of his.

First is baikie grouping the ijoid Languages

Second is what he grouped and it's relation to Oru(ijo)
Now get out.

JANK23H:

When will you start?

You know when. If you lots try to make your wish of coercing Igboland a reality

BKayy:

You know when.

I'm excited.

I can't wait.

JANK23H:

abegi shift......

Like you would say,show us excerpts from a neutral source,from the 15th century to 18th century

All these Igbo doctored work dey pain my eye.

If make me vex, I'll bring out Alagoa's books now.

There is no Jo men, Ejo or whatever you people are known with today in any book prior to late 19th century.

Alabo7978:

First is baikie grouping the ijoid Languages

Second is what he grouped and it's relation to Oru(ijo)
Now get out.

No o....


The latest is now Oru-igbo.I had barely finished writing about them divorcing Ijo from Oru.The thing sef don dey down.


Oru-Igbo

BKayy:

There is no Jo men, Ejo or whatever you people are known with today in any book prior to late 19th century.

Guy you are falling hand.Go and rest.

Take a cool shower and snuggle up in your bed.

JANK23H:

I'm excited.

I can't wait.

How I wish you people imposed yourselves on those places to begin with.

Technically speaking, you people are not exerting any political right on any of those places. The last you people tried to make a decision there, it was resisted by Opobo, and they later disgraced you lots at the supreme Court.

So, I hope you understand that when the need rises, Ndigbo has more to gain in physical confrontation than Court arguments.

JANK23H:

Guy you are falling hand.Go and rest.

Take a cool shower and snuggle up in your bed.

You know it is undeniable. Jo men weren't existing in Southern Nigeria until late 19th century.