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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Putindbutt: 11:12pm On Dec 17, 2021
JANK23H, Oyatz, I'll reply your mentions tomorrow. I need to take care of something. Gud night bro.
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by JANK23H(m): 11:12pm On Dec 17, 2021
IDENNAA:



These European historians were very meticulous in dealing with details its mind blowing. I know we like to counter many works carried out by local historians for bias , and , this includes the work of the treacherous Alagoa. But , are you aware in the book , Lower Niger and its Tribes by Leonard Glynn , Olu/ Oru were documented as a completely separate group from Ijaw?

Henceforth, you can't pick and chose whichever historians account that supports your arguments and reject the rest....remember nobi ogogoro joint we dey. Point being, in the beginning of European exploration , Ijaw nowhere in the site and nobody knew them but the Oru people were clearly identified as a separate group.
We are talking about the Orus(Ijos) and not your Oru-Igbos who migrated from Benin forming Ika,Onisha,Oguta and Kalabari Beach in Imo state.Don't muddle things up.They were never linked to Bonny,Opobo or Nembe.

You never read to understand.The Ijos have always been referred to as Orus.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Vintagepipes: 11:15pm On Dec 17, 2021
JANK23H:

That book chapter has Igbo editors Oga.Don't think we are all novices here.

......Okay what about this one on Oxford?

.....What of this one on Springer

........What of Google.

.........If this is not trolling, then people might question you guy's intellect.

........ . you can do better.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Vintagepipes: 11:18pm On Dec 17, 2021
JANK23H:

We are talking about the Orus(Ijos) and not your Oru-Igbos who migrated from Benin forming Ika,Onisha,Oguta and Kalabari Beach in Imo state.Don't muddle things up.They were never linked to Bonny,Opobo or Nembe.

You never read to understand.The Ijos have always been referred to as Orus.

......You are all over the place.

..........put your thoughts together

............first, you implied there is nothing like Oru-Igbo

.......They countered you, now you have changed your tone.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by JANK23H(m): 11:20pm On Dec 17, 2021
Vintagepipes:


......Okay what about this one on Oxford?

.....What of this one on Springer

........What of Google.

.........If this is not trolling, then people might question you guy's intellect.

........ . you can do better.

That's what I just stated.Your Oru-Igbos are located in Oguta, Kalabari Beach/Aro quarters in Imo state,Onisha and parts Delta state where they are known as Ika.There is no nexus with Bonny,Opobo or Nembe.Ijos are the Orus,hence the need for the distinction "Oru-Igbo".Oru-Igbo because they reside around the water just like Ijos.

Don't change the narrative.That map you displayed isn't anywhere near the areas under contention.

Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Bkayyy: 11:21pm On Dec 17, 2021
Putindbutt:


Is there anything you have ever won?. Name just one, i dare you.
We won Adaka Boro in 12 days.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Bkayyy: 11:24pm On Dec 17, 2021
Vintagepipes:


......Okay what about this one on Oxford?

.....What of this one on Springer

........What of Google.

.........If this is not trolling, then people might question you guy's intellect.

........ . you can do better.

You can boldly see Ụmụ Okrika in that map but tomorrow some swamp pirates will start looking for ways to corrupt Okirika History.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by IDENNAA(m): 11:28pm On Dec 17, 2021
Putindbutt:


Is there anything you have ever won?. Name just one, i dare you.



If you were a religious student of Nigerian precolonial history you wouldn't dare make this ignorant statement. The Aku people of Nsukka annihilated Igala people at Omelu Igala lake, Arochukwu defeated the Ibibbiod groups and live on their land today ,just to mention a few. But , then, many groups feared venturing into the hinterland...even Aro was defeated as they made inroads northwards into Igbo land.

The Bini didn't even try their lucks....lol. Now, I laugh when I see Ijaw threatening Igbo with physical violence....na ogogoro you wan take fight ?

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 11:46pm On Dec 17, 2021
JANK23H:

Guy I've told you to go and rest.

Indigenes of Nembe.

Alabo7879 Dem say you no be Indigene o.Better find another village o.
Leave those dunce.
Nembe people wey vex dey easily dey their body.
I was just imagining bkayy, Igboid biafrarep etc coming to Nembe to come and show their madness, the next day Dem go show dem for NTA as missing persons.
They don't even know the direction to Nembe, where for Nembe Dem wan begin claim,
Na ogbolomabiri abi bassambiri abi obioku abi odiama.
Time will come I won't respond to them again.
Their claiming will only end online.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 11:49pm On Dec 17, 2021
IDENNAA:




If you were a religious student of Nigerian precolonial history you wouldn't dare make this ignorant statement. The Aku people of Nsukka annihilated Igala people at Omelu Igala lake, Arochukwu defeated the Ibibbiod groups and live on their land today ,just to mention a few. But , then, many groups feared venturing into the hinterland...even Aro was defeated as they made inroads northwards into Igbo land.

The Bini didn't even try their lucks....lol. Now, I laugh when I see Ijaw threatening Igbo with physical violence....na ogogoro you wan take fight ?
You defeated and chased the ibibios away abi?
You're exposing yourself.
You haven't even defeated ikwerre, na ijo you wan defeat.
LMAO.
Soon we will come for aminadokiari
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Vintagepipes: 11:51pm On Dec 17, 2021
Bkayyy:

You can boldly see Ụmụ Okrika in that map but tomorrow some swamp pirates will start looking for ways to corrupt Okirika History.
.....Yes, boldly written,
........Your eyes are sharp.
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Vintagepipes: 11:53pm On Dec 17, 2021
Alabo7978:

You defeated and chased the ibibios away abi?
You're exposing yourself.
You haven't even defeated ikwerre, na ijo you wan defeat.
LMAO.
Soon we will come for aminadokiari

......I thought Hero Boro was captured in 12 days?

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 12:02am On Dec 18, 2021
Vintagepipes:


......I thought Hero Boro was captured in 12 days?
I thought you were sold as slaves to the Caribbeans and Americas??

Please come to the Niger delta, I might just sell you off,
But if you prove a good slave, I'll enculturate you.
How about I name you inetimi ?
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Vintagepipes: 12:05am On Dec 18, 2021
Alabo7978:

I thought you were sold as slaves to the Caribbeans and Americas??

Please come to the Niger delta, I might just sell you off,
But if you prove a good slave, I'll enculturate you.
How about I name you inetimi ?
......So were you the minorities.

........encultured people that defeated you in 12 days?

.....Rich and funny

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by ebufa: 4:01am On Dec 18, 2021
Putindbutt:


Is there anything you have ever won?. Name just one, i dare you.





which battles have Ijaws one? small Itshekiri had you guys on the ropes severally? Ndigbo are several weight classes above you guys !

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Liebermantic: 6:34am On Dec 18, 2021
Alabo7978:

Opobo was named after the house Jaja took over. Opubo hano pepple(Perekule) house you dunce.
opubo was renamed Opobo by the English.
There is no "Perekule" in his name. Let me post his interview with British Explorers.. Again, Opobo is an Igbo male name, not Ijaw(Jo sea pirates)

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Liebermantic: 6:52am On Dec 18, 2021
This is about the history of Pepple recorded by Neutral writers before ethnic came to the fore

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 8:28am On Dec 18, 2021
Liebermantic:

There is no "Perekule" in his name. Let me post his interview with British Explorers.. Again, Opobo is an Igbo male name, not Ijaw(Jo sea pirates)
Oboy go and sit down.
Perekule the first was renamed pepple when the British presence became strong in the period of his reign. Ofcourse you want to bring out interview with THE BRITISH.

Opobo is Opubo hano (the chieftaincy house) he was appointed to rule.
The British renamed every godamn thing in the world...
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Liebermantic: 8:52am On Dec 18, 2021
Alabo7978:

Oboy go and sit down.
Perekule the first was renamed pepple when the British presence became strong in the period of his reign. Ofcourse you want to bring out interview with THE BRITISH.

Opobo is Opubo hano (the chieftaincy house) he was appointed to rule.
The British renamed every godamn thing in the world...
All this your fantasy tales are funny..This is a pure historical revisionism..Get that in your mind now, the only thing keeping Ijaw close to Opobo and Bonny is Nigeria..If Nigeria breaks apart tomorrow, we have the sophistication, strength, documents and history to defeat you "Jo sea Pirates". British people described you guys as Savages who takes Ogogoro from Morning till night..Even Bayelsa, the Only state for Ijaw does not have one language...This is not difference in dialect but language.. You think Ndigbo are still in civil war with Nigeria?
We will start spreading those historical records everywhere till everyone in Opobo,Bonny, Okrika, Kalabari and Some Igbo-speaking part of Bayelsa get the info.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Liebermantic: 8:54am On Dec 18, 2021
Alabo7978:

Oboy go and sit down.
Perekule the first was renamed pepple when the British presence became strong in the period of his reign. Ofcourse you want to bring out interview with THE BRITISH.

Opobo is Opubo hano (the chieftaincy house) he was appointed to rule.
The British renamed every godamn thing in the world...
Show me an evidence where his name was changed from Perekule before British changed his name.
Use colonial or precolonial evidence,not Alagoa 1972 distorted, imaginary history

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by ThumbzTNA(m): 9:34am On Dec 18, 2021
Liebermantic:

Show me an evidence where his name was changed from Perekule before British changed his name.
Use colonial or precolonial evidence,not Alagoa 1972 distorted, imaginary history

Pepple got the name by trading Pepper with the whites, that is the only account written in the history books. That Perekule talk is tales-by-moonlight from the chronicles of the drunken pirates

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Eastlandx: 10:19am On Dec 18, 2021
Alabo7978:

Oboy go and sit down.
Perekule the first was renamed pepple when the British presence became strong in the period of his reign. Ofcourse you want to bring out interview with THE BRITISH.

Opobo is Opubo hano (the chieftaincy house) he was appointed to rule.
The British renamed every godamn thing in the world...
Is there any historical record that says perekule was renamed pepple

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by 9Pluto(m): 10:52am On Dec 18, 2021
For those that want a clearer perspective on the ethnic difference between ijaw/ijo and Oru, take a look at this map.

Notice how Ijos are restricted to the western part of the delta.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 6:13pm On Dec 18, 2021
Liebermantic:

All this your fantasy tales are funny..This is a pure historical revisionism..Get that in your mind now, the only thing keeping Ijaw close to Opobo and Bonny is Nigeria..If Nigeria breaks apart tomorrow, we have the sophistication, strength, documents and history to defeat you "Jo sea Pirates". British people described you guys as Savages who takes Ogogoro from Morning till night..Even Bayelsa, the Only state for Ijaw does not have one language...This is not difference in dialect but language.. You think Ndigbo are still in civil war with Nigeria?
We will start spreading those historical records everywhere till everyone in Opobo,Bonny, Okrika, Kalabari and Some Igbo-speaking part of Bayelsa get the info.
Lol, ok.
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 6:18pm On Dec 18, 2021
Eastlandx:

Is there any historical record that says perekule was renamed pepple
What is the meaning of pepple? Does pepple mean anything?
The Brits came and renamed every nook and cranny.
This you know but you want to be clever.
Because of our early contact with the Europeans, we began answering their names. Even my surname is English, many chieftaincy houses in Nembe has English names attached, same with other clans under ijo Ethnic nation.
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Liebermantic: 6:39pm On Dec 18, 2021
Alabo7978:

What is the meaning of pepple? Does pepple mean anything?
The Brits came and renamed every nook and cranny.
This you know but you want to be clever.
Because of our early contact with the Europeans, we began answering their names. Even my surname is English, many chieftaincy houses in Nembe has English names attached, same with other clans under ijo Ethnic nation.
This is how Pepple got his name

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 6:46pm On Dec 18, 2021
Liebermantic:

This is how Pepple got his name
It reads " the first king derived the title peppel from SELLING pepper"
Open your eyes.
So the question you should ask yourself is
WHAT WAS HIS NAME??
abi ein papa born am name am pepper?
Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Liebermantic: 7:52pm On Dec 18, 2021
Alabo7978:

It reads " the first king derived the title peppel from SELLING pepper"
Open your eyes.
So the question you should ask yourself is
WHAT WAS HIS NAME??
abi ein papa born am name am pepper?
And Pepple is not a Jo man. He is Igbo and No history recorded him as Perekule or anything else..
The Jo men have no historical Link to Bonny and Opobo.

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Nobody: 8:59pm On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:

We won Adaka Boro in 12 days.
FGN not Ibo army.

This same FGN military crushed Biafra in a Civil war. Millions of Igbos were starved to death because of the incompetence and greediness of the Biafla central government

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by JANK23H(m): 9:10pm On Dec 18, 2021
9Pluto:
For those that want a clearer perspective on the ethnic difference between ijaw/ijo and Oru, take a look at this map.

Notice how Ijos are restricted to the western part of the delta.
Notice how Igbos are not in Bonny

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Re: Notable Ijaw Scholar's History Book On Bonny Called Out As Fraudulent by Alabo7978(m): 11:11pm On Dec 18, 2021
Liebermantic:

And Pepple is not a Jo man. He is Igbo and No history recorded him as Perekule or anything else..
The Jo men have no historical Link to Bonny and Opobo.
Lol, mumu, I won't argue that one, but I saw something more interesting I want to check.
JANK23H, robbstark dubailandlord4 please help me check too. These people only show the things that seem to favor Their lies.
This nigga I'm quoting now sent me an excerpt, and I decided to read all the lines. Something caught my attention, and I want you all to beg him to show us the remaining page.
Look at the Excerpt, read from the point I highlighted blue. "When people first came to this place to build a town, they found it a ......"
Please show us the remaining Excerpt please. LMAO.

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