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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by 3exe3: 12:24am On Apr 30, 2022
tensazangetsu20:

I liked grokking algorithms. I tried elements of the programming interviews but it was too advanced for me. Maybe you can try it. For me now leetcode Is okay.

Thanks
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by Samuell2019(m): 5:58am On Apr 30, 2022
swagenity:

Thanks for the swift reply, i know you've heard this a thousand times, but thanks for your contribution to the programming section, you don't know how helpful you've been!

Please I'd like an honest and unfiltered review (criticisms and improvements) of my portfolio and projects

https://ikwuh-jeffery.netlify.app/



This looks nice.

I see you're a student of John Smilga. Try to do your own personal projects too. Maybe an e-commerce store. There is a lot of free apis you can use. well done.

Ps. I'm still learning the ropes too.

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by swagenity(m): 3:37pm On Apr 30, 2022
Samuell2019:


This looks nice.

I see you're a student of John Smilga. Try to do your own personal projects too. Maybe an e-commerce store. There is a lot of free apis you can use. well done.

Ps. I'm still learning the ropes too.

Thanks for the feedback
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by dapojaja(m): 7:07pm On Apr 30, 2022
tensazangetsu20:

Na data structures and algorithms just spoil all my plans grin grin

Then unspoil all your plans boss.�
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by TheManOfTheYear: 11:00am On May 01, 2022
monikulapo:


FWIW loops, conditionals and other program syntax and semantics are not algorithms. Look up basic sort algorithm (bubble, insertion etc) to have a feel for what an algorithm is. Think about it this way algorithm is like a food recipe.

It’s also why the people who say it’s easy or it’s hard are both right. Anyone can cook spaghetti, but there’s levels to bachelor spaghetti and a restaurant chef spaghetti. That difference is the quality of algorithm.

My original post was for Hannania actually coz he mentioned he has a friend in meta, he’s aiming for FAANG, he didn’t mention Javascript and he came across like he has academic interest in CS.

My post was not for bootcamp developers who see Tech as an easy way to escape Nigerian troubles. You don’t even need DS&A or good logical reasoning to make decent money if that’s your reality.
What do you mean by "bootcamp developers". These talks reeks gatekeeping vibes to me.

Everyone is a developer, and every developer can be a top engineer if they put in the work. Regardless of their background, or whether they have a CS degree or not.

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by batistutajulio: 12:28pm On May 01, 2022
ReactJs:
Quite insightful post tensazangetsu20. I had an interview with a startup in Oslo,Norway last week Friday. The interview was in 3 stages. Live coding(Fibonnaci Sequence) , Design Patterns and take home. Made it to the take home aspect which apparently was the easiest aspect of the interview but if I get offered the job, I'm not gonna take it cuz the pay range is still in the range of what I'm earning and its a startup. I don't want to work at a startup.

I'm already in the over a million Naira monthly bracket but my actual goal is to get to at least 10million Naira monthly before the end of next year. But I have actually seen backend roles that wants to pay me this within my desired range. I came very close with a firm in Helsinki, and another in the UAE. Do you know what keeps messing me up? AWS certificates. I swear. it's almost like I can't run away from it anymore which is why I'm dedicated the next couple of months for getting these certs.

Please you mind telling me where you find remote jobs where the company hire candidate from all over the world. I have applied 100s of times and most of the time, rejection is that I am not a citizen so I can't be offered the role. You give me sources I can try.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by monikulapo: 1:52pm On May 01, 2022
TheManOfTheYear:
What do you mean by "bootcamp developers". These talks reeks gatekeeping vibes to me.

Everyone is a developer, and every developer can be a top engineer if they put in the work. Regardless of their background, or whether they have a CS degree or not.

Gate keeping is too deep, I was just protecting the integrity of the post grin

In the context of the post. I was referring to ‘developers’ or people whose interests in computer science or coding is primarily an afterthought to make good money. Prior to making the clarifications there were comments from other users making a big deal about the maths requirement, whether it was hard or not, whether DS&A is even important or not, bla de bla.
If you’re going to complain about those, chances are your journey into this field is primarily through bootcamps. As with all things there might be exceptions to that.
Also take it for what is is but there was a guy who was arguing about what an algorithm is or some other bs. That’s someone who I would refer to as a bootcamp developer. It’s easy to tell hes good but he just got work ready … his fundamentals are off.

Finally if you meet actual developers you’ll know not everyone is a developer and not everyone can be a top engineer, ask Netflix engineers. But that’s just an aside.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by monikulapo: 2:00pm On May 01, 2022
3exe3:


So can you drop a practical way of how u solved the fibonnaci

Cause I know the recursive method and the memoization method

You can perform ‘binary search’ on the recursive stack. This simplifies the n solution to a log n solution.

How it happens is that from the original recursive method. There’s an identity which you can proof by induction that shows to find F(2n) it’s sufficient to find F(n) and F(n-1) … something like that. Therefore as n tend towards infinity, the amount of steps sorta converges.

Every step is halved, you also don’t need to save every Fibonacci sequence reducing redundancy. If you visualize the recursive stack afterwards (like draw the tree out) you’ll also see a binary relation.

That’s the practical way to solve it I think as you’ll still be using integers throughout and what you’re doing is essential optimizing your original dynamic solution.

If you use the mathematical formula, you’ll end up with an irrational fractional. That would affect the accuracy of your answer depending on how many decimal places you keep.

If you showed me the linear algebra implementation. I’ll just assume you don’t know whatyou’re talking about and you just got lucky with getting a question you already memorized.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by TheManOfTheYear: 3:44pm On May 01, 2022
monikulapo:


Gate keeping is too deep, I was just protecting the integrity of the post grin

In the context of the post. I was referring to ‘developers’ or people whose interests in computer science or coding is primarily an afterthought to make good money. Prior to making the clarifications there were comments from other users making a big deal about the maths requirement, whether it was hard or not, whether DS&A is even important or not, bla de bla.
If you’re going to complain about those, chances are your journey into this field is primarily through bootcamps. As with all things there might be exceptions to that.
Also take it for what is is but there was a guy who was arguing about what an algorithm is or some other bs. That’s someone who I would refer to as a bootcamp developer. It’s easy to tell hes good but he just got work ready … his fundamentals are off.

Finally if you meet actual developers you’ll know not everyone is a developer and not everyone can be a top engineer, ask Netflix engineers. But that’s just an aside.
Could you clarify on the Netflix aspect.
Even if it's just a briefing, I might do the rest of the research.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by airsaylongcome: 6:27pm On May 01, 2022
batistutajulio:


Please you mind telling me where you find remote jobs where the company hire candidate from all over the world. I have applied 100s of times and most of the time, rejection is that I am not a citizen so I can't be offered the role. You give me sources I can try.

Where do you presently source openings from?
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by ReactJs(m): 7:56pm On May 01, 2022
batistutajulio:


Please you mind telling me where you find remote jobs where the company hire candidate from all over the world. I have applied 100s of times and most of the time, rejection is that I am not a citizen so I can't be offered the role. You give me sources I can try.

LinkedIn sir.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by monikulapo: 11:01pm On May 01, 2022
TheManOfTheYear:
Could you clarify on the Netflix aspect.
Even if it's just a briefing, I might do the rest of the research.

They primarily only hire senior engineers, the equivalent would be senior / staff engineers at Google.

This could be an easy read.
https://hbr(dot)org/2014/01/how-netflix-reinvented-hr
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by TheManOfTheYear: 11:10pm On May 01, 2022
monikulapo:


They primarily only hire senior engineers, the equivalent would be senior / staff engineers at Google.

This could be an easy read.
https://hbr(dot)org/2014/01/how-netflix-reinvented-hr
Thanks. I appreciate
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by Kirkman: 11:56pm On May 01, 2022
tensazangetsu20:


People are really suffering in Nigeria honestly. Don't just use Nigerian earnings to compare yourself o at all
Sir please I need your help o! Could you kindly recommend affordable laptops that I can use to learn video editing. Thanks. I was told that a normal laptop won't cut it. That I have to go for a very good gaming or graphics Laptop.
And second; if one is to learn website design, what programming languages does one have to learn. Thanks..
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by Hannania(m): 12:39am On May 02, 2022
monikulapo:


They primarily only hire senior engineers, the equivalent would be senior / staff engineers at Google.

This could be an easy read.
https://hbr(dot)org/2014/01/how-netflix-reinvented-hr
They occasionally hire Interns and Fresh grad too. Just not so rampant like the other faang. Do a small search on LinkedIn, and you'd see a lot of returning interns there.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by monikulapo: 2:34am On May 02, 2022
Hannania:
They occasionally hire Interns and Fresh grad too. Just not so rampant like the other faang. Do a small search on LinkedIn, and you'd see a lot of returning interns there.

I said primarily, and they only opened it up post covid if you really want to get specific. How's the study coming along ?
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by Altairx440: 10:46am On May 02, 2022
monikulapo:

Also take it for what is is but there was a guy who was arguing about what an algorithm is or some other bs. That’s someone who I would refer to as a bootcamp developer. It’s easy to tell hes good but he just got work ready … his fundamentals are off.
Your assumption is wrong, I've never done a bootcamp and I'm also not work ready. I understand what you mean by a bootcamp developer though.
I'm self studying a simulated a comp. science degree, with the focus on discrete maths and DSA, if my fundamentals are off then I guess you're better than Stanford/Berkeley/Princeton university comp. science professors. No disrespect.

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by monikulapo: 10:53am On May 02, 2022
Altairx440:

Your assumption is wrong, I've never done a bootcamp and I'm also not work ready. I understand what you mean by a bootcamp developer though.
I'm self studying a simulated a comp. science degree, with the focus on discrete maths and DSA, if my fundamentals are off then I guess you're better than Stanford/Berkeley/Princeton university comp. science professors. No disrespect.
..
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by Luckydonalds(m): 8:06pm On May 03, 2022
Altairx440:

Your assumption is wrong, I've never done a bootcamp and I'm also not work ready. I understand what you mean by a bootcamp developer though.
I'm self studying a simulated a comp. science degree, with the focus on discrete maths and DSA, if my fundamentals are off then I guess you're better than Stanford/Berkeley/Princeton university comp. science professors. No disrespect.
What CS degree are you self studying?. I'll like to go the same route
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by kennethfranc(m): 9:47pm On May 03, 2022
swagenity:


Thanks for the feedback
Bro in your first sentence on the project area, there's a typo there.
You wrote Bulit instead of Built. Your site is amazing BTW
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by qtguru(m): 2:46pm On May 04, 2022
Luckydonalds:

What CS degree are you self studying?. I'll like to go the same route

The Open courseware ? nice those are strong lectures.

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by Altairx440: 8:48pm On May 04, 2022
Luckydonalds:

What CS degree are you self studying?. I'll like to go the same route
I only simulated one, I picked the most essential topics, the rest I could learn later on. If you want you could a look at teachyourselfcs/ossu github, these are my personal selections, yours could be different though, it looks something like;

coding:
- python/javascript (I know both now)
- focus on syntax and semantics.

programming:
- use coding skills to solve coding problems, make simple projects
- focus on algorithmic thinking
- develop a framework for solving problems
- learn to develop algorithms
- learn a low level language (C and rust for me)
- recursion
- tons of practice

discrete mathematics:
- preparation for DSA

data structures and algorithms:
- most important

misc.:
- git
- linux
- reading and writing documentation
- google searching cheesy
- e.t.c

This is somewhat messy lol, there's also a bunch of other things I have learned and will learn in between. Finally I'll get into development. Would be able ace any jr. software engineer interview and pass most mid level interviews at this point. These are subject to change too.

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by swagenity(m): 11:01pm On May 04, 2022
kennethfranc:

Bro in your first sentence on the project area, there's a typo there.
You wrote Bulit instead of Built. Your site is amazing BTW
Noted!
Thank you..

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by The5DME(m): 9:04am On May 05, 2022
Altairx440:

I only simulated one, I picked the most essential topics, the rest I could learn later on. If you want you could a look at teachyourselfcs/ossu github, these are my personal selections, yours could be different though, it looks something like;

coding:
- python/javascript (I know both now)
- focus on syntax and semantics.

programming:
- use coding skills to solve coding problems, make simple projects
- focus on algorithmic thinking
- develop a framework for solving problems
- learn to develop algorithms
- learn a low level language (C and rust for me)
- recursion
- tons of practice

discrete mathematics:
- preparation for DSA

data structures and algorithms:
- most important

misc.:
- git
- linux
- reading and writing documentation
- google searching cheesy
- e.t.c

This is somewhat messy lol, there's also a bunch of other things I have learned and will learn in between. Finally I'll get into development. Would be able ace any jr. software engineer interview and pass most mid level interviews at this point. These are subject to change too.
I like your approach.

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by Altairx440: 8:45pm On May 05, 2022
The5DME:
I like your approach.
Thanks.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by batistutajulio: 11:40am On May 06, 2022
airsaylongcome:


Where do you presently source openings from?

LinkedIn, but it's not been easy I wish it is easy. There is alot of roles but required experience in years which I don't have, I am looking for a junior role even if I code better than that level.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by SeunLanLege(m): 9:23pm On May 06, 2022
Wow
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by plat0: 9:57pm On May 06, 2022
SeunLanLege:
Wow
wow, you're on nairaland.
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:10pm On May 06, 2022
plat0:
wow, so you're on nairaland, please share your job hunting experience..How did you get the $30k job..

Omho so people actually researched the dude. He has been in my head since. I am definitely gonna get to his level.

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by SeunLanLege(m): 12:37pm On May 08, 2022
plat0:
wow, so you're on nairaland, please share your job hunting experience..How did you get the $30k job..

Follow your curiosity

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Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by shiffynaani(m): 6:54pm On May 08, 2022
tensazangetsu20:


Omho so people actually researched the dude. He has been in my head since. I am definitely gonna get to his level.
Good evening boss. I applied tfor google data analysis course and i was taken.

Boss should I start the course? Hope it's also profitable and high in demand like web dev and can also be done remotely too?

Thanks sir
Re: So There Are Devs That Earn Up To 30k USD. by shiffynaani(m): 7:27pm On May 08, 2022
ReactJs:
Quite insightful post tensazangetsu20. I had an interview with a startup in Oslo,Norway last week Friday. The interview was in 3 stages. Live coding(Fibonnaci Sequence) , Design Patterns and take home. Made it to the take home aspect which apparently was the easiest aspect of the interview but if I get offered the job, I'm not gonna take it cuz the pay range is still in the range of what I'm earning and its a startup. I don't want to work at a startup.

I'm already in the over a million Naira monthly bracket but my actual goal is to get to at least 10million Naira monthly before the end of next year. But I have actually seen backend roles that wants to pay me this within my desired range. I came very close with a firm in Helsinki, and another in the UAE. Do you know what keeps messing me up? AWS certificates. I swear. it's almost like I can't run away from it anymore which is why I'm dedicated the next couple of months for getting these certs.
boss pls where can I start from?

I'm very motivated now and i also need a laptop to get started

Could you help me please?

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