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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 11:47am On Aug 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


See jw twisting and turning like serpents.

The issue is "do Words go back to the mouth".and not whether "Adam & other creatures are not Gods"..Change of Post

See how you prove that jws are devils by your twistings and change of posts?

You people are finished just like the the atheists and Catholics.
DSpeaker is abusing himself rather than answer the questions asked. grin
SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIAN Worshipping 3 deities grin grin grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:49am On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:
The guy that calls himself "DSpeaker" equates the holy scriptures of Psalms 84:11 with insanity.
Nah holy Bible PROVEN his LYING Oooo!

Oh i see now. You jws are so accustomed to twistings and denials and changing Truths into lies such that you people no longer think straight nor see normally. That is what makes you people mad. Now i understand.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 11:50am On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:
Emusan LIAR,na WA you Oooooo!
You Trinitarians that said the 2nd Person of your 3 Gods was ordinary human being in the flesh.
grin grin grin grin

Olodo lying liar JWs.

The last time I checked, it you lying liar JWs that claimed Jesus is just an ordinary human being on earth and nothing divine in Him.

So when will you stop lying for your gods?
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 11:51am On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:
Emusan post,9th August,2013.
"The word (Jesus) that PROCEEDED from God's mouth is the first thing in ALL creations"

"The word Jesus Christ is a spirit @ Revelation 19:13 & Revelation 3:14 " the beginning (first) of the creation by God"
Emusan LYING Trinitarian grin grin grin cheesy
These Trinitarians, TUEH!!

SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIANS grin grin

So what's your point here JaNosense?
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:52am On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:

I hope you understand.

Dtruthspeaker:

You people are finished just like the the atheists and Catholics.

I wish the two of you agree on whether Catholics are finished or not then let us know the so called Christians you people approved because Dtruthspeaker doesn't believe in any pastor but Emusan believe in pastors though he's shying from acknowledging any of them as his mentor perhaps Jehovah's Witnesses will use the scriptures to prove his pastor is fake! cheesy

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:53am On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:

DSpeaker is abusing himself rather than answer the questions asked. grin
SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIAN Worshipping 3 deities grin grin grin

If you were normal you would know that offpoint responses are always thrown into dustbins.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:54am On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I wish the two of you agree on whether Catholics are finished or not then let us know the so called Christians you people approved because Dtruthspeaker doesn't believe in any pastor but Emusan believe in pastors though he's shying from acknowledging any of them as his mentor perhaps Jehovah's Witnesses will use the scriptures to prove his pastor is fake! cheesy

Off point jw.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:00pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Any architect could be employed to construct a house {Proverbs 8 30} but the real builder of the house is the employer of the architect who instructed him on what to do.

So if Jesus never claimed he is the Creator it means the initiative was never his own! John 5:30

Humble yourself and learn instead of going up and down calling everyone "devil devil" cheesy


At the least you have admitted that He is the Architect! And an Architect is One Who creates, hece a Creator.

So, i am well in order!

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 12:02pm On Aug 20, 2023
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Emusan:


The only person doing damage control here is you because you haven't proved your case from the scripture. cheesy cheesy
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Emusan post,9th August,2013.
"The word (Jesus) that PROCEEDED from God's mouth is the first thing in ALL creations"

Go & ask your gods of men & your kindergarten teacher to explain that sentence you posted on 9th August,2013.


Ozuo pro max. grin grin grin grin



Emusan:


Remember you claimed, God is the one who created the Heaven and not Jesus grin
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Emusan LIAR , please allow Psalms 33:6 to saturate your brain & cure you.
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"


Emusan:



John 17:7 "Now they have come [u]to know[Lu] that all the things you gave me are from you;

I know you don't have sense but try to pick your brain from Hall sometimes.



Jesus Christ has spoken to you @ John 17:7 that God gave him life and any other you can think of.

Ozuo pro max. grin grin grin grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:10pm On Aug 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

Off point jw.

So who are the devils now?

The two of you furiously criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses but can't come to terms regarding your fellow believers in the Catholic Church {Luke 11:23} or Jehovah's Witnesses whose line of thought globally is one! John 17:22 smiley

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 12:11pm On Aug 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


At the least you have admitted that He is the Architect! And an Architect is One Who creates, hece a Creator.

So, i am well in order!


Oga, please allow Psalms 33:6 & Matthew 11:25 to saturate your brain & cure you.
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"

Please ALLOW Matthew 11:25 disclosed by Jesus Christ & Psalms 33:6 disclosed by the Psalmist to cure you.

Either Jesus/the Psalmist were wrong or you were wrong.
Oga, Make your choice. grin

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:13pm On Aug 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

At the least you have admitted that He is the Architect! And an Architect is One Who creates, hece a Creator. So, i am well in order!

Ọ̀DẸ̀!

The house you live in now belongs to the architect employed to construct it or your landlord? cheesy

Even though the architect knows everything about the house he will always tell you that the instruction is coming from the one who employed his services! John 5:30wink
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 12:14pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


So who are the devils now?

The two of you furiously criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses but can't come to terms regarding your fellow believers in the Catholic Church {Luke 11:23} or Jehovah's Witnesses whose line of thought globally is one! John 17:22 smiley

Nah Catholics wey be them TRINITARIAN mentors them dey yab for here.
Them borrow Catholic doctrine come dey yab them.
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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:19pm On Aug 20, 2023
cornelboy:
I need to understand you guys clearly. You and Emusan.

You don't need to understand us better read your Bible for understanding.

If you say that Jesus was God word in God's mouth, definitely Jesus didn't exist at until he was born on earth.

Does God's word not within the Being of God from eternity?

So if Jesus didn't go back to God's mouth after ascension, it further proves that Jesus life started in Mary's womb.

Yes! Jesus life body started in Mary's womb but the person who took over that body (provided by Mary) has no beginning who is The Word of God.

Heb 10:5 "So when he comes into the world, he says: “‘Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me." - NWT

In other words, you're saying that Jesus was created.

The Word of God can't be created!

You guys are really belittling Jesus Christ who was a powerful spirit being in heaven before coming to earth by saying he was just a word in God's mouth. That's so dumb.

Can you imagine this dumbo...

-You claimed Jesus is just a created Being who Jehovah controls at His will.
-You claimed God is so impotent that he can't do things until he used someone else.
-You claimed Jesus is just an ordinary Angel in heaven bla bla

Yet you think people who claim Jesus is the WORD OF GOD are the one belittling Jesus Christ.

So what you're saying is that a powerful spirit being in heaven is far superior to GOD'S WORD.

I ma Se ooo.

He even dropped his glory and was made a little lower than the angels, I.e he became man.

Then why do you claimed He is an Angel?

Jesus Christ had his own free will and was a distinct person from the Father.

Yes! Do you think God is like you or God carried brain cells the way you do?

But if you can see God as immeasurable Being whom no one can phantom His existence then you will know God's Word isn't just ordinary air particles colliding in human lungs to produce sound.

John 17:18,24
[18]Just as you sent me into the world, I am sending them into the world.
[24]Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am. Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began!

How would you explain these above verses with your illogical interpretation 🤔🤔

You didn't explain what the above verses are saying in relation to Creation.

Are you saying these verses proved that Jesus isn't the Creator or what?

because you people like jumping around like kangaroo without addressing the main point.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:20pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I wish the two of you agree on whether Catholics are finished or not then let us know the so called Christians you people approved because Dtruthspeaker doesn't believe in any pastor but Emusan believe in pastors though he's shying from acknowledging any of them as his mentor perhaps Jehovah's Witnesses will use the scriptures to prove his pastor is fake! cheesy

What is this one saying here?
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:25pm On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:
"Emusan post,9th August,2013.
"The word (Jesus) that PROCEEDED from God's mouth is the first thing in ALL creations"

Go & ask your gods of men & your kindergarten teacher to explain that sentence you posted on 9th August,2013.

I made that statement and you're telling me to go ask another person to explain my own statement to me.

You see the reason I do say you're too dull. grin cheesy

Emusan LIAR , please allow Psalms 33:6 to saturate your brain & cure you.
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"

So you mean Jesus isn't the Creator of Heaven or was Jesus using Jehovah word and breath here as your brother claimed Jesus used God's resources cheesy grin cheesy grin

Jesus Christ has spoken to you @ John 17:7 that God gave him life and any other you can think of.

Ozuo pro max. grin grin grin grin

Where Jesus said God gave Him life in John 17:7?

Lying liar JWs.

Jesus is your Creator cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:25pm On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:

What is this one saying here?

Go and settle with your brethren before coming to tell JWs what to believe.

Your fellow religionist said Catholics are doomed all your pastors he detests like filth yet that's the same religion that raised the concept of TRINITY for unah.

So go and settle with him first!

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 12:26pm On Aug 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


If you were normal you would know that offpoint responses are always thrown into dustbins.
Very baseless, spurious claims.
DSpeaker, Carry your Mumu GIBBERISH outta here.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:27pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Ọ̀DẸ̀!...

I thought you shouted no insulting a person no matter what? But here you are insulting and shouting "ode"! (e pain am well well grin)

Now you show that jws are also hypocrites on top of their usual demons.

MaxInDHouse:


The house you live in now belongs to the architect employed to construct it or your landlord? cheesy..)

Off point jw devil! The issue is creation which you have admitted already and not "belongs to" (ownership). E.O.D.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:29pm On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:

Very baseless, spurious claims.
DSpeaker, Carry your Mumu GIBBERISH outta here.

grin Hehehe Looooser! cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:32pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


So who are the devils now?.

Off.Point jw!
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:32pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀!

The house you live in now belongs to the architect employed to construct it or your landlord? cheesy

When you lack knowledge on things ask, so that you'll stop disgracing yourself in public domain.

Architect don't BUILD/Construct, Architect only DESIGNS.

Even though the architect knows everything about the house he will always tell you that the instruction is coming from the one who employed his services! John 5:30wink

Stop talking nonsense.

Not all instructions come from the owner of a building.

Which instructions will the owner give when it comes to the structural stability of the building? Even Architect has nothing to do with structural design and analysis of a building.

You see the reason why you people argue shamelessly and this argument fall flat when it come to Creation.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 12:36pm On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:


Olodo lying liar JWs.

The last time I checked, it you lying liar JWs that claimed Jesus is just an ordinary human being on earth and nothing divine in Him.

So when will you stop lying for your gods?

Emusan LIAR SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIAN.
Four evidences against you confused LYING TRINITARIAN grin grin grin grin grin grin



Google , Divine definition:
Learn to pronounce divine
/dɪˈvʌɪn/
adjective
of or like God or a god.
"heroes with divine powers"
synonyms: godly, godlike, angelic.

JWs always maintained that Jesus was divine, a god, godlike,@ John 1:1 the evidences in screenshot.

Emusan LIAR confused by Trinity grin grin grin grin

Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:36pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Go and settle with your brethren before coming to tell JWs what to believe.

When did I tell JWs what to believe?

You have come with your lies again.

Your fellow religionist said Catholics are doomed all your pastors he detests like filth yet that's the same religion that raised the concept of TRINITY for unah.

So is that the point here?

Catholic brought the concept of the name JEHOVAH and compilation of the scripture.

So what is your point Oga Ade?

So go and settle with him first!

I don't have anything to settle with anyone.

Or did I tell you that? grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:40pm On Aug 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

I thought you shoured no insulting a person no matter what? But here you are insulting and shouting "ode"! (e pain am well well grin)
Now you show that jws are also hypocrites on top of their usual demons.
Off point jw devil! The issue is creation which you have admitted already and not "belongs to" (ownership). E.O.D.
Ọ̀DẸ̀ means FOOL!

Now prove you're not a fool by answering the question:

Jesus was with God in the beginning {John 1:2} and Paul said everything was created through him {Colossians 1:16 compare to Proverbs 8:30} so is he an architect employed or the one who masterminded everything?

Secondly Emusan believe in pastors and church leaders but you detests all, so in what way are you both on the same page? cheesy
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:41pm On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:
Emusan LIAR SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIAN.
Four evidences against you confused LYING TRINITARIAN grin grin grin grin grin grin

The way you always sound, one can see the frustration in you very deep cheesy grin cheesy

Google , Divine definition:
Learn to pronounce divine
/dɪˈvʌɪn/
adjective
of or like God or a god.
"heroes with divine powers"
synonyms: godly, godlike, angelic.

JWs always maintained that Jesus was divine, a god, godlike,@ John 1:1 the evidences in screenshot.

Emusan LIAR confused by Trinity grin grin grin grin

You won't stop showcasing your shallow mind. cheesy grin cheesy grin

So Jesus is divine while on Earth and you claimed nothing exists of Him after He died.

Can angel die? cheesy grin grin cheesy
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:42pm On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:

When did I tell JWs what to believe?

We believe Jesus is Archangel Michael.

So case closed if you're not telling us what to believe! grin

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 12:43pm On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:


When you lack knowledge on things ask, so that you'll stop disgracing yourself in public domain.

Architect don't BUILD/Construct, Architect only DESIGNS.



Stop talking nonsense.

Not all instructions come from the owner of a building.

Which instructions will the owner give when it comes to the structural stability of the building? Even Architect has nothing to do with structural design and analysis of a building.

You see the reason why you people argue shamelessly and this argument fall flat when it come to Creation.
Emusan LYING exposed by Psalms 33:6
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"

Proverbs 8:22,27,30 Jesus is a workman (craftsman) OBEYING the command of God his Maker.
Emusan LIAR desperate to save face & CHANGE the holy scriptures
. grin grin grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:45pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
We believe Jesus is Archangel Michael.

Of course you can believe what you want but immediately you cite scripture is where I can come in.

because I'll quote scripture to show you Jesus isn't Angel Michael cheesy grin cheesy grin

So case closed if you're not telling us what to believe! grin

Case did not close! Case will only close if you see me in your Hall telling you what you should believe.

So far this is not your Hall.

This thread was created not for JWs but since you hypocrite believe you must TELL PEOPLE what to believe, you jump in and begin to expose your lies the more.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:46pm On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:

Emusan LYING exposed by Psalms 33:6
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"

Proverbs 8:22,27,30 Jesus is a workman (craftsman) OBEYING the command of God his Maker.
Emusan LIAR desperate to save face & CHANGE the holy scriptures
. grin grin grin

Address my point and stop being stupid.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 12:57pm On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:


Address my point and stop being stupid.

Your LYING point has been exposed by Psalms 33:6 & Proverbs 8:22,27,30.

Emusan LIAR desperate to save face
. grin grin grin grin grin

Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:58pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Now prove you're not a fool by answering the question:

Jesus was with God in the beginning {John 1:2} and Paul said everything was created through him {Colossians 1:16 compare to Proverbs 8:30} so is he an architect employed or the one who masterminded everything?

An Architect ONLY design. Get that into your dull skull.

God mastermind everything and carried out everything all by Himself.

Paul knows God's Word is God and God created everything through His Word.

No where God instructed another being in ALL THE CREATION ACCOUNTS.

I've challenge you to provide just a single verse.

Rather the scripture says God issued instructions to the things Created.

Secondly Emusan believe in pastors and church leaders but you detests all, so in what way are you both on the same page? cheesy

We're on the same page as Jesus is the Creator and the Saviour of the World whom all who come to Him will be saved. cheesy grin cheesy

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