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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 12:58pm On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:
Your LYING point has been exposed by Psalms 33:6 & Proverbs 8:22,27,30.

Emusan LIAR desperate to save face grin grin grin grin grin

Where are the lies?

JaNosense dumb cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:59pm On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:

Case did not close! Case will only close if you see me in your Hall telling you what you should believe.

You should know that i'm not interested in fruitless arguments like you and your brethren who detests pastors while you revere them.

So continue arguing with him! Titus 3:9

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 1:08pm On Aug 20, 2023
Emusan:


Where are the lies?

JaNosense dumb cheesy grin cheesy grin
Emusan:


The way you always sound, one can see the frustration in you very deep cheesy grin cheesy



You won't stop showcasing your shallow mind.

So Jesus is divine while on Earth and you claimed nothing exists of Him after He died.

The screenshot says it all.
Emusan LIAR is still LYING & DECEIVING himself.
cheesy grin grin cheesycheesy grin cheesy grin

Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 1:18pm On Aug 20, 2023
Janosky:

The screenshot says it all.
Emusan LIAR is still LYING & DECEIVING himself.
cheesy grin grin cheesycheesy grin cheesy grin

Smile....when you have nothing to provide as fact.

So why don't you answer my question then?
cheesy grin cheesy grin

JaNosense dull skull cheesy grin cheesy

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 1:19pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You should know that i'm not interested in fruitless arguments like you and your brethren who detests pastors while you revere them.

As usual, spewing an irrelevant point. cheesy grin cheesy grin

So continue arguing with him! Titus 3:9

Where is the argument? cheesy grin cheesy grin

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 3:38pm On Aug 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Ọ̀DẸ̀ means FOOL!
cheesy

You have already proven you are D' Fool and D'Liar and D'hypocrite after you had admitted what you initially denied Fool! E.O.D

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by cornelboy(f): 6:58pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


That would be wrong because you do not appreciate that God Speaks!

And that obviously even before our existence, God had Spoken as proven by "John 8:42,/Proverbs 8:22-30. John 14:20.

And that for our own existence and our knowledge we came to know Him because God Spoke us into existence by His Speaking as you see in Genesis 1 to wit: "And God Said..."

And it is He Who is referred to as "The Lord God" as His introduction, in Genesis which after introduction, The Name changes to "The Lord". A Name no one bore except Him which He bore again when He came visiting as a man with The Name, Jesus Christ.

AND WE ALL CALL HIM THE LORD!

And so are there 2 "The Lord"?
No! Only One, The Lord.

And neither does anyone have this Name
Philippians 2:9
For this reason God raised him to the highest place above and gave him the name that is greater than any other name.

That Name is "'The Lord". Full Name, The Lord God!

Hence why we sing.

NO OTHER NAME (Don Moen)
No other name but the Name of Jesus
No other name but the Name of The Lord
No other name but the Name of Jesus
Is worthy of glory
And worthy of honor
And worthy of power
And all praise

And the hymn

ALL HAIL THE POWER

All hail the power of Jesus name, let angels prostrate fall
Bring forth the royal diadem and crown Him Lord of all
Bring forth the royal diadem and crown Him Lord of all

Now you understand why those demons were shouting when they saw Him in Luke 4:41
Omo
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:05pm On Aug 21, 2023
cornelboy:

Omo

No valid argument against the Truth.

And The Truth of The Lord is established forever and ever and no one can reasonably argue against it.

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by cornelboy(f): 7:08pm On Aug 21, 2023
Emusan:


You don't need to understand us better read your Bible for understanding.



Does God's word not within the Being of God from eternity?



Yes! Jesus life body started in Mary's womb but the person who took over that body (provided by Mary) has no beginning who is The Word of God.

Heb 10:5 "So when he comes into the world, he says: “‘Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me." - NWT



The Word of God can't be created!



Can you imagine this dumbo...

-You claimed Jesus is just a created Being who Jehovah controls at His will.
-You claimed God is so impotent that he can't do things until he used someone else.
-You claimed Jesus is just an ordinary Angel in heaven bla bla

Yet you think people who claim Jesus is the WORD OF GOD are the one belittling Jesus Christ.

So what you're saying is that a powerful spirit being in heaven is far superior to GOD'S WORD.

I ma Se ooo.



Then why do you claimed He is an Angel?



Yes! Do you think God is like you or God carried brain cells the way you do?

But if you can see God as immeasurable Being whom no one can phantom His existence then you will know God's Word isn't just ordinary air particles colliding in human lungs to produce sound.



You didn't explain what the above verses are saying in relation to Creation.

Are you saying these verses proved that Jesus isn't the Creator or what?

because you people like jumping around like kangaroo without addressing the main point.

Lol.
If Jesus was just the literal word in God's mouth, it's like saying Jesus had no life. He was just a word. He wasn't a being. It's so absurd.

Jesus before coming to die for us on earth knew what he was coming to do.
God literally sent him. He was a spirit being like every other beings in heaven. He couldn't have been just a word in God's mouth. That's so ridiculous.

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by cornelboy(f): 7:08pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


No valid argument against the Truth.

And The Truth of The Lord is established forever and ever and no one can reasonably argue against it.


Lol.

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:17pm On Aug 21, 2023
cornelboy:

Lol.
If Jesus was just the literal word in God's mouth, it's like saying Jesus had no life. He was just a word. He wasn't a being. It's so absurd.

You don't read the bible o. Deuteronomy 8:3/Mathew 4:4 already shows you man lives by and because of The Word.

Does a none living thing or word give life? Can a dead woman get pregnant and give birth to a baby?
Of course not. Impossible

It is The Law that life gives life, which is why He Said "i am The Life"!

That is what God has set!

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 7:21pm On Aug 21, 2023
cornelboy:
Lol.
If Jesus was just the literal word in God's mouth, it's like saying Jesus had no life.

That is you're still limiting God's Word to that human where ordinary air particles collision and make sound.

He was just a word. He wasn't a being. It's so absurd.

Do you know the nature of God's word?

Do you think God is like human being?

The scripture says God's word is the very LIFE. Heb 4:12

Jesus before coming to die for us on earth knew what he was coming to do.

I never said He didn't.

God literally sent him.

because God's promises from Old Testament is that He Himself is coming and God can never lie.

He was a spirit being like every other beings in heaven.

Was God included in your "LIKE EVERY OTHER BEINGS IN HEAVEN"?

I want to check something grin cheesy

He couldn't have been just a word in God's mouth.

because you are God and know the Nature of God's word.

Well that's what the scripture says.

That's so ridiculous.

Not as ridiculous as to think God's Word is not powerful & superior than any created beings both on earth and in heaven.

Not as ridiculous as to think the person you claimed WAS DIRECTLY created By God Himself and God used Him to create ALL OTHER THINGS (including Micheal) still was on the same level with spirit beings in heaven grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37pm On Aug 21, 2023
cornelboy:

Lol.

Really hilarious! smiley
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:44pm On Aug 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Really hilarious! smiley

Says the antiChrists

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:50pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

Says the antiChrists

Says a so called Christian who has abandoned the gathering of fellow believers! Hebrews 10:24-25 cheesy

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 8:03pm On Aug 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Says a so called Christian who has abandoned the gathering of fellow believers! Hebrews 10:24-25 cheesy

Only those who do the will of God are believers and not those who claim to be believers. Mark 7:6

And definitely you jws are not believers but devils and demons!

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:28pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

Only those who do the will of God are BELIEVERS and not those who claim to be BELIEVERS. Mark 7:6
And definitely you jws are not BELIEVERS but devils and demons!

The funny thing about you is how stupid you're not to see that BELIEVERS (plural) aren't isolated noisemaker like you but a gathering of faithful individuals who has learned how to put their mistakes in the past and worship as a family! Hebrews 10:24-25 smiley

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:15pm On Aug 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


The funny thing about you is how stupid you're not to see that BELIEVERS (plural) aren't isolated noisemaker like you but a gathering of faithful individuals who has learned how to put their mistakes in the past and worship as a family! Hebrews 10:24-25 smiley

The moronic thing about you is how greatly stupid and evil you are not to real eyes that God is looking for "ANY ONE" (SINGULAR) John 11:25 and not a group of liars and demons claiming believers.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:02pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

The moronic thing about you is how greatly stupid and evil you are not to real eyes that God is looking for "ANY ONE" (SINGULAR) John 11:25 and not a group of liars and demons claiming believers.
So you're the ANYONE while all assemblies of worshipers are evil shey? cheesy

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 10:08pm On Aug 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

So you're the ANYONE while all assemblies of worshipers are evil shey? cheesy

As long as you have now seen that you are a fool for not.seeing ANYONE(SINGULAR) John 11:25 that God is looking for, i have nothing more to say to than you shall burn in pieces!
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by cornelboy(f): 10:55pm On Aug 21, 2023
Emusan:


That is you're still limiting God's Word to that human where ordinary air particles collision and make sound.



Do you know the nature of God's word?

Do you think God is like human being?

The scripture says God's word is the very LIFE. Heb 4:12



I never said He didn't.



because God's promises from Old Testament is that He Himself is coming and God can never lie.



Was God included in your "LIKE EVERY OTHER BEINGS IN HEAVEN"?

I want to check something grin cheesy



because you are God and know the Nature of God's word.

Well that's what the scripture says.



Not as ridiculous as to think God's Word is not powerful & superior than any created beings both on earth and in heaven.

Not as ridiculous as to think the person you claimed WAS DIRECTLY created By God Himself and God used Him to create ALL OTHER THINGS (including Micheal) still was on the same level with spirit beings in heaven grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
No. The Bible never said Jesus was the word in God's mouth.
John the writer of the book of John called Jesus the word for some reasons.

God speaks normally and his words or speeches are not Jesus Christ lol. This is really funny. If the angels and other creatures in heaven are complete beings on their own, how could Jesus just be words that comes from God's mouth? Jesus was a complete spirit being on his own.

John 17:24
[24]Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am. Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began!


Jesus was a complete being when he experienced the glory and his Father's love way before creation.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:21pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

As long as you have now seen that you are a fool for not.seeing ANYONE(SINGULAR) John 11:25 that God is looking for, i have nothing more to say to than you shall burn in pieces!

Believers (plural) are individuals from different geographical locations coming together nah but you're just a fugitive who disowns all gatherings of BELIEVERS claiming all gatherings are led by evildoers.

Yet Jesus is the head of his CHURCH (assembly of Christians)

Ọmọ if you can't find any gathering where you can worship God it means you're a worker of LAWLESSNESS who doesn't want to submit to the rules binding on other BELIEVERS, Jesus doesn't know you o! Matthew 7:21-23

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Janosky: 11:38pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


The moronic thing about you is how greatly stupid and evil you are not to real eyes that God is looking for "ANY ONE" (SINGULAR) John 11:25 and not a group of liars and demons claiming believers.

"ANY ONE" who believes in His Son MUST
[b]OBEY Hebrews 13:7,17
7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.



17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority
, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account.[/b] Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.


Sink that word "LEADERS" into your skull.
I don't need to lecture you that LEADERS & Organisation goes hand in hand.

Is Hebrews 13:7,17 in your Bible?
DSPEAKER of FALSEHOOD delete that portion from your Bible and continue DECEIVING YOURSELF
. grin grin

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:44pm On Aug 21, 2023
Janosky:

"ANY ONE" who believes in His Son MUST
[b]OBEY Hebrews 13:7,17
7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.
17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority
, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account.[/b] Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.
Sink that word "LEADERS" into your skull.
I don't need to lecture you that LEADERS & Organisation goes hand in hand.
Is Hebrews 13:7,17 in your Bible?
DSPEAKER of FALSEHOOD delete that portion from your Bible and continue DECEIVING YOURSELF
. grin grin

Cain wanted to be counted among worshipers of the true God and at the same time detests leadership of the flock as instituted by Jesus himself! smiley

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:35am On Aug 22, 2023
Janosky:

"[b]ANY ONE" who believes in His Son MUST
..

Offu Point!
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:39am On Aug 22, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Believers (plural) are individuals from different geographical locations coming together...

Offu Point!
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:59am On Aug 22, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

Offu Point!
Fugitive!
Go and ASSOCIATE with your fellow BELIEVERS otherwise you're not a believer at all the word BELIEVE connotes TRUST in beliefs of a certain group of people and such beliefs is binding on all members.
So if you can't find any group then you're a worker of LAWLESSNESS (INIQUITY) It's the same as saying no community worths your liken throughout the earth meaning you're a lawless man that's why you can't find any community to associate with! Matthew 7:21-23 wink

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Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:14am On Aug 22, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Fugitive!
Go and ASSOCIATE with your fellow BELIEVERS otherwise you're not a believer at all the word BELIEVE connotes TRUST in beliefs of a certain group of people and such beliefs is binding on all members...

Kai! Jw devil will always lie and twist Truth in proof that they are truly children of Satan. See how he don bend the meaning of believe.

Anyway, kill yourself on top John 11:25.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:24am On Aug 22, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

Kai! Jw devil will always lie and twist Truth in proof that they are truly children of Satan. See how he don bend the meaning of believe.
Anyway, kill yourself on top John 11:25.

You're the one killing yourself on what we believe:

Jesus is archangel Michael who is organizing us to doing God's will globally but if you're not OK with that then present a better performing group that's working towards God's will instead of crying hopelessly here on Nairaland! grin
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:33am On Aug 22, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


You're the one killing yourself on what we believe:

Kai! Jw devil will always lie and twist Truth in proof that they are truly children of Satan. See how he don bend my response say i dey attack hin belief wen na him open hin mouth, confess on hin own shows say jw be devil and antiChrist.
Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by Emusan(m): 1:22pm On Aug 22, 2023
cornelboy:

No. The Bible never said Jesus was the word in God's mouth.
John the writer of the book of John called Jesus the word for some reasons.

And it's only JWs that knows the reason cheesy grin cheesy grin

God speaks normally and his words or speeches are not Jesus Christ lol.

BUT Jesus is the Word of God.

This is really funny.

Which one?

If the angels and other creatures in heaven are complete beings on their own, how could Jesus just be words that comes from God's mouth?

You haven't answered my question, why?

Do you think GOD'S WORD is like an air particles that collided to produce sound like human?

Do you know the nature of God's word? Heb 4:12 give a glimpse of what God's word is.

Here is how your own translation put it "For the word of God is alive and exerts power+ and is sharper than any two-edged sword+ and pierces even to the dividing of soul* and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart. - NWT

In case you don't get it, here is the summary
The Word of God is:
1. Alive
2. Exerts POWER
3. can discern THOUGHTS and INTENTIONS of the heart.

So can you still compare God's word with that of human?

Jesus was a complete spirit being on his own.

The Word of God is ALIVE, anything ALIVE is a being on its own.

John 17:24
[24]Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am. Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began!


Jesus was a complete being when he experienced the glory and his Father's love way before creation.

Now on @underlined you know that happened BEFORE CREATION yet you claim Jesus was CREATED. Does that sound normal to you?
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