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Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 12:08am On Oct 08, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:


The hadith is not inspired and was written about a century after Mohammed died. None of those people who wrote the hadith were there. It was all reported speech. They said and he said. Please let the noble quran lecture us. That is the source that is authentic and original.

Can you show me?
is it not irony that you believe what you posted above and still say the bible is the word of God you shouldn't believe the bible too from your logic. The bible was written by unknown authors and years after Jesus.. that's why we have canonical and non canonical gospels.

Can you tell us what make some gospel book canonical and some non cannonical?


You have so much hate in your heart why is it hard for you understand that we will not worship what you worship nor will you worship what we worship. To you is your religion and to us is ours.


Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 3.463 Narrated by Abu Huraira

The Prophet (saws) said, "Allah did not send any Prophet but that they shepherded the sheep." His companions asked him, "Did you do the same?" The Prophet (saws) replied, "Yes, I used to shepherd the sheep of the people of Mecca for some Qirats."

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Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 3:36am On Oct 08, 2022
haekymbahd:
is it not irony that you believe what you posted above and still say the bible is the word of God you shouldn't believe the bible too from your logic. The bible was written by unknown authors and years after Jesus.. that's why we have canonical and non canonical gospels.

Can you tell us what make some gospel book canonical and some non cannonical?


You have so much hate in your heart why is it hard for you understand that we will not worship what you worship nor will you worship what we worship. To you is your religion and to us is ours.


Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 3.463 Narrated by Abu Huraira

The Prophet (saws) said, "Allah did not send any Prophet but that they shepherded the sheep." His companions asked him, "Did you do the same?" The Prophet (saws) replied, "Yes, I used to shepherd the sheep of the people of Mecca for some Qirats."
He questioned my sources and I tested to see if he could provide answers from the quran but he went to sources too. In the quran, mohammed also REPORTED what he heard just as the Bible. All the Hadith came from the Abassid caliphate. I can tell you their ruthless activities.

Why do you all find it hard to prove your truth from your quran? You have more than FIVE authentic hadiths to explain the quran. And, all of them are contrasting. Not in Agreement. There are more but if I quote it, you guys will throw the scholar under a moving bus.

Here's the question: Did mohammed expose himself to Aisha before she was nine years old?

Did Mohammed strip Aisha naked and play with her and perform sexual functions on her befire she turned 9?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 6:50am On Oct 08, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
He questioned my sources and I tested to see if he could provide answers from the quran but he went to sources too. In the quran, mohammed also REPORTED what he heard just as the Bible. All the Hadith came from the Abassid caliphate. I can tell you their ruthless activities.

Why do you all find it hard to prove your truth from your quran? You have more than FIVE authentic hadiths to explain the quran. And, all of them are contrasting. Not in Agreement. There are more but if I quote it, you guys will throw the scholar under a moving bus.

Here's the question: Did mohammed expose himself to Aisha before she was nine years old?

Did Mohammed strip Aisha naked and play with her and perform sexual functions on her befire she turned 9?
Did Aisha complained about this. It was clear that the prophet loved Aisha genuinely and and indeed married her. She was with him in his last days and she helped in the propagation of Islam.

For a family to give out their daughter in marriage it means her family believed she was ready the prophet never forced her parent to give her out in marriage.

If Aisha, her family, people of Arabia didn't complain about their relationship what does that tells you then a man (you) born in the 21st century starts to complain?

If he married her at that age it is only because it was a norm on their society at the time so there is no fuss about it...


1. The Hadith had chains of narration so it is easy to detect false and authentic hadith does the bible have any?

2. what determines whether a gospel book is cannonical or not and why were some books removed from the bible?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 7:33am On Oct 08, 2022
haekymbahd:
Did Aisha complained about this. It was clear that the prophet loved Aisha genuinely and and indeed married her. She was with him in his last days and she helped in the propagation of Islam.

If Aisha, her family, people of Arabia didn't complain about their relationship what does that tells you?

If he married her at that age it is only because it was a norm on their society at the time so there is no fuss about it...


The Hadith had chains of narration so it is easy to detect false and authentic hadith does the bible have any what determines whether a gospel book is cannonical or not and why were some books removed from the bible?
Hahahaha She did complain. She said that she was playing with her doll at the time. And, she had to wash his semen off her clothes.

Moreover, The permanent committee for scientific research and religious sanctions has looked onto the request of Abu Abdallah Mohammed Al Shamry which was sent to the committee from the general secretariat of the Committee of Higher Scholars number 1809 date 3/5/1421. The requester asked the following:

Lately, It has spread on a large scale, especially in weddings, the habit of thighing little boys; what is the ruling of the Quran on this? Especially, that God’s Messenger has thighed Ayesha.

You can see the problem that Mohammed caused for these guys and for you too. Would any 6 year old ever be comfortable getting thighed by an almost 60 year old man?

Is this the example for you? Would you allow your 6 year old sister or daughter be thighed by a man that age?

It was not normal at the time. Mohammed initiated it. All the wives of every single muslim did not fall within that age grade. If it was right in that time, why would it be wrong now?

If what they did then was for that time period, why do you continue the other traditions of islam and pretend not to carry on child marriage? For example, islam also teaches marrying many wives. That was then, why do it now?

For a certainty, there was not a time in the world's history that children are given out in marriage. Even the pagans in Egypt did not do it. Abraham was in Arabia, ishmael was there and they did not do it. Why then? Who else married a child bride lest mohammed? No one. Why was his marriage highlighted? Because it was unique to him only. Why were his other wives not child brides too? Cos they were of age. No one talked about the other wives in detail. We are cool with their ages. Aisha was defiled and raped. Her life and soul were ripped off of her. Just admit the obvious and do not fool anyone.

At no time in history was child bride ever accepted in any culture. The most that you can argue is pubescent girls or in their early TEENS in medieval times. And, that was about the time that Aisha became a widow. Bring out any historic record on culture beyond the Arabia that mohammed created.

Tell me, at what point in history did child bride stop in the muslim world? Saudi is still under Sharia law. The same law that permitted child marriage. So, has sharia been updated?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 8:19am On Oct 08, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Hahahaha She did complain. She said that she was playing with her doll at the time. And, she had to wash his semen off her clothes.

Moreover, The permanent committee for scientific research and religious sanctions has looked onto the request of Abu Abdallah Mohammed Al Shamry which was sent to the committee from the general secretariat of the Committee of Higher Scholars number 1809 date 3/5/1421. The requester asked the following:

Lately, It has spread on a large scale, especially in weddings, the habit of thighing little boys; what is the ruling of the Quran on this? Especially, that God’s Messenger has thighed Ayesha.

You can see the problem that Mohammed caused for these guys and for you too. Would any 6 year old ever be comfortable getting thighed by an almost 60 year old man?

Is this the example for you? Would you allow your 6 year old sister or daughter be thighed by a man that age?

It was not normal at the time. Mohammed initiated it. All the wives of every single muslim did not fall within that age grade. If it was right in that time, why would it be wrong now?

If what they did then was for that time period, why do you continue the other traditions of islam and pretend not to carry on child marriage? For example, islam also teaches marrying many wives. That was then, why do it now?

For a certainty, there was not a time in the world's history that children are given out in marriage. Even the pagans in Egypt did not do it. Abraham was in Arabia, ishmael was there and they did not do it. Why then? Who else married a child bride lest mohammed? No one. Why was his marriage highlighted? Because it was unique to him only. Why were his other wives not child brides too? Cos they were of age. No one talked about the other wives in detail. We are cool with their ages. Aisha was defiled and raped. Her life and soul were ripped off of her. Just admit the obvious and do not fool anyone.

At no time in history was child bride ever accepted in any culture. The most that you can argue is pubescent girls or in their early TEENS in medieval times. And, that was about the time that Aisha became a widow. Bring out any historic record on culture beyond the Arabia that mohammed created.

Tell me, at what point in history did child bride stop in the muslim world? Saudi is still under Sharia law. The same law that permitted child marriage. So, has sharia been updated?
Show us from your bible which is your believed holy book that it is a sin in the sight of God.

The Quran never gave a specific age for marriage nor the bible so why don't you listen to the government which you were told to obey their laws according to the bible.


Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."

Aishat had reached puberty age and was happy in her marriage and not maltreated that is what matter to me... How do you know if she hasn't attained puberty some ladies do attain puberty at an early age than each other. If her parents could give her out then they must have believed she was ready...


Muhammad wasn't even only the suitor who asked for her hand in marriage if others could ask it shows that she was ready or acceptable...


Sahih bukhari volume 1 book 8 hadith 465 states

Narated By ‘Aisha : (The wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur’an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Quran. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Quran).”


This hadith says Muhammed visited her parents when she hit puberty and talks about the Quraish , So Aisha was living with her parents when she hit puberty and Muhammed visited her according to this hadith and it talks about the Quraish which suggests this was before 622 .


Question:

1. The Hadith had chains of narration which can be traced so it is easy to detect false and authentic hadith does the bible have any?

2. what determines whether a gospel book is cannonical or not and why were some books removed from the bible?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 10:35am On Oct 08, 2022
Genesis 2:24. يهوه instituted marriage and said that a man and his WIFE (not wives) will become ONE.
Genesis 2:22 يهوه presented the WOMAN (not a child) to Adam AS HIS WIFE.

Marriage implies that two people will live together and no party should deprive each other his/her due. Mohammed thighing Aisha at 6. Was that meant for pleasure or depraved fantasy.

Naturally, it is a crime against humanity. Marriage is for women not for children. From the get-go humans understood that. Even Job lived in Arabia thousand of years before mohammed and we read about his children and his wife. Abraham was 10 years older than his wife Sarah. Mohammed was supposed to be a great-grandpa to Aisha. It is absolutely unnatural. From the history of this world, that was unheard of among people with the fear of God. You cannot defend such a crime because this man is your prophet. David committed crimes and no Christian followed him as an example of such bad actions. It is totally condemned and used to teach people the sad ending of sin.

You should be ashamed of your filthy self for defending the defilement of an innocent child and you should be on the watch. If he is your prophet, why not do what he did? You cannot exclude that aspect of his example because he is leading you to jannah. He was sent as the perfect example for allah's worshippers. You too go on an marry a 6 year old child. shameless muck
haekymbahd:
Show us from your bible which is your believed holy book that it is a sin in the sight of God.

The Quran never gave a specific age for marriage nor the bible so why don't you listen to the government which you were told to obey their laws according to the bible.


Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."

Aishat was happy in her marriage and not maltreated that is what matter to me... How do you know if she hasn't attained puberty some ladies do attain puberty at an early age than each other. If her parents could give her out then they must have believed she was ready...


Muhammad wasn't even only the suitor who asked for her hand in marriage if others could ask it shows that she was ready or acceptable...


Sahih bukhari volume 1 book 8 hadith 465 states

Narated By ‘Aisha : (The wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur’an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Quran. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Quran).”


This hadith says Muhammed visited her parents when she hit puberty and talks about the Quraish , So Aisha was living with her parents when she hit puberty and Muhammed visited her according to this hadith and it talks about the Quraish which suggests this was before 622 .
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 10:43am On Oct 08, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Genesis 2:24. يهوه instituted marriage and said that a man and his WIFE (not wives) will become ONE.
Genesis 2:22 يهوه presented the WOMAN (not a child) to Adam AS HIS WIFE.

Marriage implies that two people will live together and no party should deprive each other his/her due. Mohammed thighing Aisha at 6. Was that meant for pleasure or depraved fantasy.

Naturally, it is a crime against humanity. Marriage is for women not for children. From the get-go humans understood that. Even Job lived in Arabia thousand of years before mohammed and we read about his children and his wife. Abraham was 10 years older than his wife Sarah. Mohammed was supposed to be a great-grandpa to Aisha. It is absolutely unnatural. From the history of this world, that was unheard of among people with the fear of God. You cannot defend such a crime because this man is your prophet. David committed crimes and no Christian followed him as an example of such bad actions. It is totally condemned and used to teach people the sad ending of sin.

You should be ashamed of your filthy self for defending the defilement of an innocent child and you should be on the watch. If he is your prophet, why not do what he did? You cannot exclude that aspect of his example because he is leading you to jannah. He was sent as the perfect example for allah's worshippers. You too go on an marry a 6 year old child. shameless muck
Your opinion give your proof from your bible


Numbers 31.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV)


You should be ashamed YHWH right now am I right?




Mind you Aisha had reached puberty before marriage?

Sahih bukhari volume 1 book 8 hadith 465 states

Narated By ‘Aisha : (The wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur’an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Quran. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Quran).”


This hadith says Muhammed visited her parents when she hit puberty and talks about the Quraish , So Aisha was living with her parents when she hit puberty and Muhammed visited her according to this hadith and it talks about the Quraish which suggests this was before 622
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 11:07am On Oct 08, 2022
haekymbahd:
Your opinion give your proof from your bible


Numbers 31.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV)


You should be ashamed YHWH right now am I right?




Mind you Aisha had reached puberty before marriage?

Sahih bukhari volume 1 book 8 hadith 465 states

Narated By ‘Aisha : (The wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur’an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Quran. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Quran).”


This hadith says Muhammed visited her parents when she hit puberty and talks about the Quraish , So Aisha was living with her parents when she hit puberty and Muhammed visited her according to this hadith and it talks about the Quraish which suggests this was before 622
The fact is that I wholesomely embrace whatever the Bible teaches. I showed you from the Bible that God's design of marriage is for a man and a woman and not a child. You're a dirty much. A filthy slime for encouraging this debased level of immorality.

No one ever slept with a child not even with his level of influence. Solomon didn't rape the Shulamite girl. Mohammed would have defiled her without doubt.

There is no singke record of such a thing heard in the whole land of Israel that a ma would defile a child. Jephthars daughter was mentioned, Dinah was mentioned, Sarah was mentioned. Not even the daughter of slaves were raped like your dungg prophet did to his slaves.

Mohammed's grandpa almost sacrificed abdullah to Hubal. That could have saved Aisha's life
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 5:51pm On Oct 08, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
The fact is that I wholesomely embrace whatever the Bible teaches. I showed you from the Bible that God's design of marriage is for a man and a woman and not a child. You're a dirty much. A filthy slime for encouraging this debased level of immorality.

No one ever slept with a child not even with his level of influence. Solomon didn't rape the Shulamite girl. Mohammed would have defiled her without doubt.

There is no singke record of such a thing heard in the whole land of Israel that a ma would defile a child. Jephthars daughter was mentioned, Dinah was mentioned, Sarah was mentioned. Not even the daughter of slaves were raped like your dungg prophet did to his slaves.

Mohammed's grandpa almost sacrificed abdullah to Hubal. That could have saved Aisha's life

please use your holy spirit to interprete this verse YHWH teaching his followers rape and how you fully embrace this below can you do it?


Deuteronomy 21:10-14
New International Version


10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.






Question:

1. What does YHWH mean by "You must not sell her as a slave, since you have dishonoured her."

2. How do one dishonour a woman if not by rape kindly use your holy spirit to interprete
3. How can one mourn his/her parent for one full month before raping them?


but like always you will always evade questions thrown at you like a flea
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Truvelisback(m): 7:03pm On Oct 08, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Aside the sleeping with an underaged, killing infidels, owning and selling slaves, killing men and possessing their wives, spreading men's legs and kissing their penisses, What work was Mohammed known for before he was allegedly called by God?
Which Chapter of the Quran can i find this? I just downloaded the Quran app.

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Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 8:48pm On Oct 08, 2022
Truvelisback:
Which Chapter of the Quran can i find this? I just downloaded the Quran app.
Quran 8:12 "(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels... "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

What is the crime of the people? They chose to be Christians or Jews. Nothing is said about self-defense. In fact, the verses in sura 8 were narrated shortly after a battle provoked by Muhammad, who had been trying to attack a lightly-armed caravan to steal goods belonging to other people.

Mohammed pulled Hussain's underwear, spread his legs apart, (WENT ON HIS KNEES) and brought his mouth to defile Hussain's penisss.
And, Hussain was an underaged boy. He also did the same to Hassan. Giving them French kisses and always swallowing their tongues. Also, when he went on expedition, he will take little boys and only heaven knows what he did to them.
Hadith. Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9

Quran 76:19 There boys of everlasting youth shall go about attending them: when you see them, you would think that they are scattered pearls.

The muslims are also promised everlasting little boys that will never grow. They will stay young forever for them as a reward. The little boys and WHITE girls (72 virgins) come in the same chain of expression as a reward.

surah 24:33 And let those who do not have the means to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His bounty. And if any of those slaves in your possession desires a deed of emancipation, make it possible for them, if you find goodness in them. And give them some of Allah’s wealth which He has granted you. Do not force your ˹slave˺ girls into prostitution for your own worldly gains while they wish to remain chaste. And if someone coerces them, then after such a coercion Allah is certainly All-Forgiving, Most Merciful ˹to them˺.

Allah is telling you above that if your friend coerces you to FORCE your slave girl into prostitution, no problem. Go ahead and do it.
This is allah telling you that slavery is good. Not one slave girl, but slave GIRLSSS.

https://www.nairaland.com/7355987/why-muslims-sexually-defiling-little

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Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 3:57am On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
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Allah claimed to have given mohammed tablets of the quran. He claimed to have given him PAGES of the quran. Yet, your scholars lied to you that it was memorised.
unfortunately for you where is it written in the Quran that Muhammad was given a tablet. Allah had said the mother of the book is with him... So if you are looking for a Quran in tablet it is with Allah

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 3)

"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)



InshaAllah through you your fellow christians will become Muslims......



Sixfiguresmart:

Saudis found 2500 errors in the quran. Allah is WE, OUR, US, HE, I, THEM, ME, YOU, etc he cannot be identified. Allah has no bearing. Allah cannot protect you. He is asking your brother to stay awake when you sleep cos he is weak.
Allah is All in All.

Your God Jesus cannot help you he couldn't help himself from dieing like a chicken on the cross. Hence he cried out

.
Hebrew 5 vs7
[b]Contemporary English Version

God had the power to save Jesus from death. And while Jesus was on earth, he begged God with loud crying and tears to save him. He truly worshiped God, and God listened to his prayers

If your God Jesus can't save himself I wonder who will save your dirty ass

Sixfiguresmart:

Your kaaba is the house of Hubal. Mohammed's father is abdallah. Who is that allah that he is an abd for? His own father wanted to sacrifice him to that allah in the kaaba. That allah is an allah of the moon and sopdet.
No wonder the statue of hubal was destroyed my our beloved prophet... Idols must definitely and surely give way for the only true God.. I am sure you haven't read your Quran

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Do you call upon Ba'l and leave the best of creators -"
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 125)


Allah had warned not to call upon hubal only Allah is the supreme, the mighty, the all knower can your God Jesus ever....

Sixfiguresmart:
Look at the blacks in Yemen. They are called untouchables. Your fellow muslims in Yemen are used to test Iranian and Saudi bombs. You cannot say a word about them. Do you think that I care about those insane back and forth swing that you are accustomed to?
I am a Nigerian and not from Yemen and I don't get involve insuch I only follow the word of the only true God so post a Quranic verse to support this then we can talk but in the mean time digest this into your empty stomach

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 93)





Sixfiguresmart:
You have not responded to all of these and you are bringing deuteronomy to me. How dare you?
please use your holy spirit to interprete this verse YHWH teaching his followers rape and how you fully embrace this below can you do it?


Deuteronomy 21:10-14
New International Version

10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.






Questions for sixfiguresmart

1. What does YHWH mean by "You must not sell her as a slave, since you have dishonoured her."

2. How do one dishonour a woman if not by rape kindly use your holy spirit to interprete

3. How can one mourn his/her parent for one full month before raping them?

4. The Hadith had chains of narration which can be traced so it is easy to detect false and authentic hadith does the bible have any?

5. what determines whether a gospel book is cannonical or not and why were some books removed from the bible?

6. How sure can we be that Jesus truly said all those things in cannonical who was recording his voice



but like always you will always evade questions thrown at you like a flea it seems as though for one to become a Christian one has to be dumb and disregard the origin of the book it only based on faith,
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 4:53am On Oct 09, 2022
haekymbahd:
unfortunately for you where is it written in the Quran that Muhammad was given a tablet. Allah had said the mother of the book is with him... So if you are looking for a Quran in tablet it is with Allah

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 3)

"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)



InshaAllah through you your fellow christians will become Muslims......



Allah is All in All.

Your God Jesus cannot help you he couldn't help himself from dieing like a chicken on the cross. Hence he cried out

.
Hebrew 5 vs7
[b]Contemporary English Version

God had the power to save Jesus from death. And while Jesus was on earth, he begged God with loud crying and tears to save him. He truly worshiped God, and God listened to his prayers

If your God Jesus can't save himself I wonder who will save your dirty ass

No wonder the statue of hubal was destroyed my our beloved prophet... Idols must definitely and surely give way for the only true God.. I am sure you haven't read your Quran

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Do you call upon Ba'l and leave the best of creators -"
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 125)


Allah had warned not to call upon hubal only Allah is the supreme, the mighty, the all knower can your God Jesus ever....

I am a Nigerian and not from Yemen and I don't get involve insuch I only follow the word of the only true God so post a Quranic verse to support this then we can talk but in the mean time digest this into your empty stomach

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 93)






please use your holy spirit to interprete this verse YHWH teaching his followers rape and how you fully embrace this below can you do it?


Deuteronomy 21:10-14
New International Version

10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.






Questions for sixfiguresmart

1. What does YHWH mean by "You must not sell her as a slave, since you have dishonoured her."

2. How do one dishonour a woman if not by rape kindly use your holy spirit to interprete

3. How can one mourn his/her parent for one full month before raping them?

4. The Hadith had chains of narration which can be traced so it is easy to detect false and authentic hadith does the bible have any?

5. what determines whether a gospel book is cannonical or not and why were some books removed from the bible?

6. How sure can we be that Jesus truly said all those things in cannonical who was recording his voice



but like always you will always evade questions thrown at you like a flea it seems as though for one to become a Christian one has to be dumb and disregard the origin of the book it only based on faith,

Surah 80:11-13 But no! This ˹revelation˺ is truly a reminder, So let whoever wills be mindful of it. It is ˹written˺ on pages held in honour

Who actually wrote the quran? Where are the PAGES (not verbal wordings) of the quran GIVEN to Mohammed?

Muslims claim to have originally memorized the quran but allah said that IT WAS WRITTEN IN PAGES.

So, where are the PAGES of that quran THAT ALLAH WROTE and GAVE to Mohammed??

Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹RECORDED˺ IN A PRESERVED TABLET.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 5:10am On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:

Surah 80:11-13 But no! This ˹revelation˺ is truly a reminder, So let whoever wills be mindful of it. It is ˹written˺ on pages held in honour

Who actually wrote the quran? Where are the PAGES (not verbal wordings) of the quran GIVEN to Mohammed?

Muslims claim to have originally memorized the quran but allah said that IT WAS WRITTEN IN PAGES.

So, where are the PAGES of that quran THAT ALLAH WROTE and GAVE to Mohammed??

Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹RECORDED˺ IN A PRESERVED TABLET.
I asked to show the verse where the written pages where given to Muhammad hand to hand wasn't he told to recite from it.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)



Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 3)

"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)


Where is the mother of the book isn't it with Allah it wasn't given to muhammad?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 6:16am On Oct 09, 2022
haekymbahd:
I asked to show the verse where the written pages where given to Muhammad hand to hand wasn't he told to recite from it.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)



Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 3)

"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)


Where is the mother of the book isn't it with Allah it wasn't given to muhammad?
You are learned enough to know what pages and tablet mean. A utterance is not tabulated. A page is not uttered, it is read.

In all languages, we have spoken and written forms. I do not understand how you could be so washed into believing these trash.

Let me ask you. Could Mohammed write or not? Was he lettered enough to merge arabic letter to form words?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 7:11am On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
You are learned enough to know what pages and tablet mean. A utterance is not tabulated. A page is not uttered, it is read.

In all languages, we have spoken and written forms. I do not understand how you could be so washed into believing these trash.

Let me ask you. Could Mohammed write or not? Was he lettered enough to merge arabic letter to form words?
No he couldn't write Angel Gabriel recited it to him and he memorized it.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)



He got home and gathered those who could write he dictated to them and they wrote on different materials and his followers memorized it as well....
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 7:17am On Oct 09, 2022
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 717:
Narrated Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah:

Ibn Abbas said, "When Allah's Apostle was on his deathbed and there were some men in the house, he said, 'Come near, I will WRITE for you something after which you will not go astray.' Some of them ( i.e. his companions) said, 'Allah's Apostle is seriously ill and you have the (Holy) Quran. Allah's Book is sufficient for us.' So the people in the house differed and started disputing. Some of them said, 'Give him writing material so that he may WRITE for you something after which you will not go astray.' while the others said the other way round. So when their talk and differences increased, Allah's Apostle said, "Get up." Ibn Abbas used to say, "No doubt, it was very unfortunate (a great disaster) that Allah's Apostle was prevented from writing for them that writing because of their differences and noise."

Contrary to popular teachings that Mohammed was illiterate, you see above from respected scholars testifying that Mohammed could read and write. Mohammed himself said that he wanted to WRITE and the others asked for writing materials for him to write guidance to prevent them from going astray. Imagine this: Even a sick Mohammed COULD write. The Hadith says that the only thing that stopped him from writing was not illiteracy but their differences and noise.

do you know Mohammed more than Al Bukhari?
haekymbahd:
No he couldn't write Angel Gabriel recited it to him and he memorized it.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)



He got home and gathered those who could write he dictated to them and the wrote on different materials and his followers memorized it as well....
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 7:47am On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 717:
Narrated Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah:

Ibn Abbas said, "When Allah's Apostle was on his deathbed and there were some men in the house, he said, 'Come near, I will WRITE for you something after which you will not go astray.' Some of them ( i.e. his companions) said, 'Allah's Apostle is seriously ill and you have the (Holy) Quran. Allah's Book is sufficient for us.' So the people in the house differed and started disputing. Some of them said, 'Give him writing material so that he may WRITE for you something after which you will not go astray.' while the others said the other way round. So when their talk and differences increased, Allah's Apostle said, "Get up." Ibn Abbas used to say, "No doubt, it was very unfortunate (a great disaster) that Allah's Apostle was prevented from writing for them that writing because of their differences and noise."

Contrary to popular teachings that Mohammed was illiterate, you see above from respected scholars testifying that Mohammed could read and write. Mohammed himself said that he wanted to WRITE and the others asked for writing materials for him to write guidance to prevent them from going astray. Imagine this: Even a sick Mohammed COULD write. The Hadith says that the only thing that stopped him from writing was not illiteracy but their differences and noise.

do you know Mohammed more than Al Bukhari?
At age 2 do you know how to read a book isn't it when you went to school that you were taught to read...


So what rule of Law states since Muhammad was an illetrate when he started receiving revelation he certainly has to die as an illetrate also?



Or are you surprised he knew how to read also..

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Recite in the name of your Lord who created -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 1)

"Created man from a clinging substance."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 2)

"Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 3)

"Who taught by the pen -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 4)

"Taught man that which he knew not."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 5)



He learn from the best teacher he could learn from...
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by orisa37: 7:51am On Oct 09, 2022
THEY, INCLUDING MOHAMMED, ARE ALL FISHERS OF MEN.
NON OF THEM IS A FULANI HERDSMAN.

GOD, YHWH, YAHWEH, ALLAH, LORD JESUS, ONE GOD MADE THEM ALL SHEPHERDS FISHERS OF MEN.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 8:02am On Oct 09, 2022
My kids leaned how to read from home. I taught them. Here is the logic. His father was a slave of allah. his grandpa was a staunch worshipper of Hubal, the main god of the kaaba. So, to serve that Hubal and to understand the writings of Hubal one must be literate. His father and grandpa could read.

Mohammed was a trader. It was impossible for a trader back then to be an illiterate. Every single individual from the time of Pharaoh knew how to read. That is what they call civilization. The Greeks made sure. Even David, a poor shepherd could read.

All Egyptians could read. For an errand boy like mohammed to say that he didn't know hot to read, it was a lie.

Now, let us get to your point. You are assuming that along the line, he became lettered. So, why is that not included in the narrative? Why am I the one to notify you, a muslim that he could read and write? Why were you not taught that he WAS not illiterate. Saying that he was illiterate meant that he died illiterate. That is the published narrative.

Nonetheless, if he at some point became literate, why was he not able to write down the words of his allah? Why was he able to send letters to someone but not the quran?

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 708:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:

Allah's Apostle sent a letter to Khosrau with Abdullah bin Hudhafa As-Sahmi and told him to hand it over to the governor of Al-Bahrain. The governor of Al-Bahrain handed it over to Khosrau, and when he read the latter, he tore it into pieces. (The sub-narrator added, "I think that Ibn Al-Musaiyab said, 'Allah 's Apostle invoked (Allah) to tear them all totally Khosrau and his companions) into pieces.
haekymbahd:
At age 2 do you know how to read a book isn't it when you went to school that you were taught to read...

So what rule of Law states since Muhammad was an illitrate when he started receiving revelation he certainly has to die as an illitrate also?

Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 8:08am On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
My kids leaned how to read from home. I taught them. Here is the logic. His father was a slave of allah. his grandpa was a staunch worshipper of Hubal, the main god of the kaaba. So, to serve that Hubal and to understand the writings of Hubal one must be literate. His father and grandpa could read.

Mohammed was a trader. It was impossible for a trader back then to be an illiterate. Every single individual from the time of Pharaoh knew how to read. That is what they call civilization. The Greeks made sure. Even David, a poor shepherd could read.

All Egyptians could read. For an errand boy like mohammed to say that he didn't know hot to read, it was a lie.

Now, let us get to your point. You are assuming that along the line, he became lettered. So, why is that not included in the narrative? Why am I the one to notify you, a muslim that he could read and write? Why were you not taught that he WAS not illiterate. Saying that he was illiterate meant that he died illiterate. That is the published narrative.

Nonetheless, if he at some point became literate, why was he not able to write down the words of his allah? Why was he able to send letters to someone but not the quran?

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 708:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:

Allah's Apostle sent a letter to Khosrau with Abdullah bin Hudhafa As-Sahmi and told him to hand it over to the governor of Al-Bahrain. The governor of Al-Bahrain handed it over to Khosrau, and when he read the latter, he tore it into pieces. (The sub-narrator added, "I think that Ibn Al-Musaiyab said, 'Allah 's Apostle invoked (Allah) to tear them all totally Khosrau and his companions) into pieces.
Even in this current computer generation of ours are their illetrates or not.. Even in schools are there not student who still can't read and write despite going to school..

Alot of people didn't even go to school even in this computer generation, some were drop out

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Recite in the name of your Lord who created -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 1)

"Created man from a clinging substance."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 2)

"Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 3)

"Who taught by the pen -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 4)

"Taught man that which he knew not."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 5)
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 8:34am On Oct 09, 2022
haekymbahd:
Even in this current computer generation of ours are their illetrates or not.. Even in schools are there not student who still can't read and write despite going to school..

Alot of people didn't even go to school even in this computer generation, some were drop out

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Recite in the name of your Lord who created -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 1)

"Created man from a clinging substance."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 2)

"Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 3)

"Who taught by the pen -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 4)

"Taught man that which he knew not."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 5)

There was never in history that God sent a prophet who could not do his job. Even if God would attempt to do this, he would give that man the resources to accomplish that task. 3 times Gabriel choked mohammed nearly to death and forced him to read. Was reading an essential skill to Gabriel? Was Gabriel ignorant that mohammed couldn't read? Was the power of allah impenetrable in mohammed that its effect could not empower him to read even after 3 nearly fatal attempts to get him to? Why couldn't allah teach him to write to enable him transmit his message without adulteration? So, in a space of 23 years, who then taught Mohammed how to read and write in his old age? Can you be kind enough to tell us the name of that person? During this period mohammed would spend his entire day sexing 13 wives with his sex slaves too. Also, in this period, he would go to war.

Did you actually read the verses that you quoted above? Those are things that allah couldn't do for his very last prophet. How could he do it for you?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by haekymbahd(m): 9:26am On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
There was never in history that God sent a prophet who could not do his job. Even if God would attempt to do this, he would give that man the resources to accomplish that task. 3 times Gabriel choked mohammed nearly to death and forced him to read. Was reading an essential skill to Gabriel? Was Gabriel ignorant that mohammed couldn't read? Was the power of allah impenetrable in mohammed that its effect could not empower him to read even after 3 nearly fatal attempts to get him to?
What is belief?

As a Christian that you are don't you believe no one can be saved without accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior?

Gabriel knew Allah had empowered Muhammad to read. Muhammad had already been empowered to read the first time Gabriel told him to but he lacked belief and confidence in himself that was what prompted Gabriel to repeat himself 3 times. For God to help anyone you have to believe I can't believe I am teaching you this your pastor should have done better.....

When Muhammad Muhammad overcame his fears he Read it didn't He?


Sixfiguresmart:

Why couldn't allah teach him to write to enable him transmit his message without adulteration?
He did you just was not listening or let me say you are blinded with hatred.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)


Why did Allah make Muhammad not to forgot what he recited it was mainly to prevent adulteration...

Sixfiguresmart:

So, in a space of 23 years, who then taught Mohammed how to read and write in his old age? Can you be kind enough to tell us the name of that person? During this period mohammed would spend his entire day sexing 13 wives with his sex slaves too. Also, in this period, he would go to war.
Thank God for Islam very transparent religion we can basically start talking about what food Muhammad eat every, what time he had is birth, his date of birth, his sayings from authentic narration...

Wheras you can't get the with Jesus you don't even know his date birth, about his life from age 5 to 30... You only know about his birth he was called to age 30 left the world at 33 yet you believed him..

He could learn from anyone why can't you ask for how many times Muhammad go to toilet in a day?

Sixfiguresmart:

Did you actually read the verses that you quoted above? Those are things that allah couldn't do for his very last prophet. How could he do it for you?
So how did an illetrate recite the Quran if not by the power of Allah the Almighty....
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by 2Arsenal: 11:10am On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
I asked you from the get-go if I can show you from a source. but, you argued of the originality of the source. I, then asked you for a source and you provided from one that is not original.

Every other prophet's job was listed in the quran. I want to see mohammed's job IN the quran too if he was a prophet.

The hadith is not inspired and was written about a century after Mohammed died. None of those people who wrote the hadith were there. It was all reported speech. They said and he said. Please let the noble quran lecture us. That is the source that is authentic and original.

Can you show me?
You're very funny... We muslim don't separate Quran and hadith brcause both are our sources. Quran says hadith is a revelation just like the quran. No muslim can be a muslim unless he follow hadith because you can practice our religion without knowing how prophet (saw) practiced it.

For example, it is in the quran that we must perform solat, fast, give charity, perform hajj and others... But the explanations and the questions asked about all those act of worships by prophet muhammad(saw) companions: how are we going to do it, what make it valid and what invalidate them.?? You All these were practice and answers by the prophet.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Lukuluku69(m): 11:30am On Oct 09, 2022
Balerion:

What Islam text?

You are engaging a loony. If you have the luxury of time, amuse yourself but one thing I can guarantee you in this venture is frustration.

This loony will jump and hop around, twist word to suit his deranged views.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 12:29pm On Oct 09, 2022
Thank you very much, Sir. I appreciate your phenomenal comment. Especially the bolded below. Now, here is a surah in the quran and an excert from the Mash'hur hadith, meaning popular or famous hadith accepted as a standard hadith in the Islamic faith. Kindly tell me if you follow this practices.
Surah 3:28 Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah...

Hadith Number 16245,
“I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)

He (the Prophet) lift up his (al Hassan’s) shirt and kissed his (little) penis..” He (the prophet) kissed the (little) penis of al Hassan or al Husein. He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) penis

Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9 “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) penis.”

Now, since you follow the Hadith and the quran, do you also follow these practices written in them?

Now, look at what Saudi and the other islamic nations are doing? Friends with the west. Also, Mohammed sold his armor to eat Jewish food. His Arab brothers could not feed him.

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-saudi-arabia-sign-18-agreements-energy-investment-state-tv-2022-07-15/

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 743:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet died while his armor was mortgaged to a Jew for thirty Sa's of barley (which is 97.2 kilos of barley.)

Muhammad's wife Hafsa once caught him in her bed with another woman—his slave-girl, Mary the Copt. Seeking to avoid further conflict, Muhammad promised that he would stop having sex with Mary.

Do you follow all of these as written in the Hadiths?
2Arsenal:

You're very funny... We muslim don't separate Quran and hadith brcause both are our sources. Quran says hadith is a revelation just like the quran. No muslim can be a muslim unless he follow hadith because you can practice our religion without knowing how prophet (saw) practiced it.

For example, it is in the quran that we must perform solat, fast, give charity, perform hajj and others... But the explanations and the questions asked about all those act of worships by prophet muhammad(saw) companions: how are we going to do it, what make it valid and what invalidate them.?? You All these were practice and answers by the prophet.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by 2Arsenal: 12:49pm On Oct 09, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Thank you very much, Sir. I appreciate your phenomenal comment. Especially the bolded below. Now, here is a surah in the quran and an excert from the Mash'hur hadith, meaning popular or famous hadith accepted as a standard hadith in the Islamic faith. Kindly tell me if you follow this practices.
Surah 3:28 Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah...

Hadith Number 16245,
“I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)

He (the Prophet) lift up his (al Hassan’s) shirt and kissed his (little) penis..” He (the prophet) kissed the (little) penis of al Hassan or al Husein. He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) penis

Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9 “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) penis.”

Now, since you follow the Hadith and the quran, do you also follow these practices written in them?

Now, look at what Saudi and the other islamic nations are doing? Friends with the west. Also, Mohammed sold his armor to eat Jewish food. His Arab brothers could not feed him.

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-saudi-arabia-sign-18-agreements-energy-investment-state-tv-2022-07-15/

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 743:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet died while his armor was mortgaged to a Jew for thirty Sa's of barley (which is 97.2 kilos of barley.)

Muhammad's wife Hafsa once caught him in her bed with another woman—his slave-girl, Mary the Copt. Seeking to avoid further conflict, Muhammad promised that he would stop having sex with Mary.

Do you follow all of these as written in the Hadiths?

You only quoted the book of shia.
We don't follow anyhow hadiths... We only follow authentic hadith not lies. go and ask for authentic hadiths and quote from them.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 12:50pm On Oct 09, 2022
haekymbahd:
What is belief?

As a Christian that you are don't you believe no one can be saved without accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior?

Gabriel knew Allah had empowered Muhammad to read. Muhammad had already been empowered to read the first time Gabriel told him to but he lacked belief and confidence in himself that was what prompted Gabriel to repeat himself 3 times. For God to help anyone you have to believe I can't believe I am teaching you this your pastor should have done better.....

When Muhammad Muhammad overcame his fears he Read it didn't He?
No, he didn't. Who scared him in the first place? What fear? He didn't lack belief. The Islamic rhetoric is that he lacked KNOWLEDGE. He was already a BELIEVER. At this time many quranic pages and tablets had already been handed him.
haekymbahd:

He did you just was not listening or let me say you are blinded with hatred.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)

Why did Allah make Muhammad not to forgot what he recited it was mainly to prevent adulteration...
Recitation is not reading. You could recite many poems in kindergarten before you learned how to read. I am not blinded with hatred. I am posting your Hadith and quran. How am I full of hate. These things have been hidden for millenniums.
haekymbahd:

Thank God for Islam very transparent religion we can basically start talking about what food Muhammad eat every, what time he had is birth, his date of birth, his sayings from authentic narration...
Some scholars say that he died at 63, some say 65. Where is the accuracy?
haekymbahd:

Wheras you can't get the with Jesus you don't even know his date birth, about his life from age 5 to 30... You only know about his birth he was called to age 30 left the world at 33 yet you believed him..
because those were significant. And, we do not make claims that we cannot prove. Whatever is grey, we call it grey. That is honesty. Etching out evidence to fool posterity is not transparency.
haekymbahd:

He could learn from anyone why can't you ask for how many times Muhammad go to toilet in a day?
Those are gross information that not even your parents would ever think of documenting. Some things are just beyond idiocy. Muslim scholars detailing menstruation and someone pooing is insane.
haekymbahd:

So how did an illetrate recite the Quran if not by the power of Allah the Almighty....
Cos you sould do the same at 3 years old even In Nigeria. You could recite a poem about the London bridge that you have never set your eyes on. Ain't that a miracle?

Would mohammed is so lazy that he could not even hold a cup to wash his hands. He had servants stand to inhale his stench poop holding cups of water for him.

Muhammad's wife Hafsa once caught him in her bed with another woman—his slave-girl, Mary. Seeking to avoid further conflict, Muhammad promised that he would stop having sex with Mary. Didn't Mohammed know that this was wrong? Was it okay that he made his wives jealous? Why did he promise not to do it again if it was the right thing to do? Why did he go out of the circle of 13 wives to sleeping with a slave? Would you do such a thing?
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 1:06pm On Oct 09, 2022
Oh, cool. I am very sorry, Sir. Let me quote from al Bukhari. I really hope that Al Buhkari is not Shia. I see that you sound virtuous. Let me test your principledness.

sahih-bukhari-book-43 volume 003 hadith number 648

‘Umar told the whole story (about his wife). “On that the Prophet smiled.” ‘Umar further said, “I then said, ‘I went to Hafsa and said to her: Do not be tempted to imitate your companion (‘Aisha) for she is more beautiful than you and more beloved to the Prophet.’ The Prophet smiled again.

From the above, Umar came right in front of mohammed to narrate how he insulted his wife. Mohammed smiled in approval. Was that a man with dignity? How would you expect your dad to react if your father's friend would walked up to him to tell him that his side chick or a younger wife looked more beautiful than your mom and more loved than your mom?

Would you follow such example?
2Arsenal:


You only quoted the book of shia.
We don't follow anyhow hadiths... We only follow authentic hadith not lies. go and ask for authentic hadiths and quote from them.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 1:44pm On Oct 09, 2022
haekymbahd:

He did you just was not listening or let me say you are blinded with hatred.
Jesus went from door to door, town to town, city to city preaching and teaching. We, his disciples are doing exactly what he taught us to do. he asked us not to kill you but to preach to you and if you do not accept that we should leave you alone. We obey. Your prophet asked you to kill us if we do not accept Islam. And, if not, pay the jizya to you even when you are the invader. Who is the hater and the bigot here? You are the one coming for my life.

Let me show you what your prophet was doing while Jesus followers were preaching before he invaded and killed them.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 63, Hadith Number 192.
Narrated By 'Ubaid bin 'Umar : I heard 'Aisha saying, "The Prophet used to stay for a long while with Zanab bint Jahsh and drink honey at her house. So Hafsa and I decided that if the Prophet came to anyone of us, she should say him, "I detect the…

This prophet abandoned his wives at home and would spend his precious time with zainab. Another man's wife. all he was doing was seeking an opportunity to catch her bathing so as to take her as a wife the way he did his son. They called that man his adopted son but mohammed did not adopt any son. That was his biological son. It was your hadith that painted it that way to reduce the tension on that evil.

His wives had to plan to tell him that he was smelling in order to take this old man out of another man's house.
Re: Moses Was A Shepherd, Jesus A Carpenter, Paul Made Tents, What About Mohammed? by KnownUnknown: 1:49pm On Oct 09, 2022
Mohammed copied Moses and became a terrorist.

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