Sixfiguresmart:
Jesus went from door to door, town to town, city to city preaching and teaching. We, his disciples are doing exactly what he taught us to do. he asked us not to kill you but to preach to you and if you do not accept that we should leave you alone. We obey. Your prophet asked you to kill us if we do not accept Islam. And, if not, pay the jizya to you even when you are the invader. Who is the hater and the bigot here? You are the one coming for my life.

Let me show you what your prophet was doing while Jesus followers were preaching before he invaded and killed them.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 63, Hadith Number 192.
Narrated By 'Ubaid bin 'Umar : I heard 'Aisha saying, "The Prophet used to stay for a long while with Zanab bint Jahsh and drink honey at her house. So Hafsa and I decided that if the Prophet came to anyone of us, she should say him, "I detect the…

This prophet abandoned his wives at home and would spend his precious time with zainab. Another man's wife. all he was doing was seeking an opportunity to catch her bathing so as to take her as a wife the way he did his son. They called that man his adopted son but mohammed did not adopt any son. That was his biological son. It was your hadith that painted it that way to reduce the tension on that evil.

His wives had to plan to tell him that he was smelling in order to take this old man out of another man's house.

Like I care Islam is still the fastest growing religion... You are only reaping the reward of what evil YHWH did in the past....

1 Samuel 15vs 3
Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’”


You are only paying for the sins your god committed imagine killing infants damn. Everyday is for the thief one day is for the owner..

You never see anything self your god was a killer now telling you people not to kill joke of the year...

Sixfiguresmart:
Oh, cool. I am very sorry, Sir. Let me quote from al Bukhari. I really hope that Al Buhkari is not Shia. I see that you sound virtuous. Let me test your principledness.

sahih-bukhari-book-43 volume 003 hadith number 648

‘Umar told the whole story (about his wife). “On that the Prophet smiled.” ‘Umar further said, “I then said, ‘I went to Hafsa and said to her: Do not be tempted to imitate your companion (‘Aisha) for she is more beautiful than you and more beloved to the Prophet.’ The Prophet smiled again.

From the above, Umar came right in front of mohammed to narrate how he insulted his wife. Mohammed smiled in approval. Was that a man with dignity? How would you expect your dad to react if your father's friend would walked up to him to tell him that his side chick or a younger wife looked more beautiful than your mom and more loved than your mom?

Would you follow such example?

By the way, what you qouted in the Bukhari is just like 1/10 of the whole narration. Why didn't you quote everything? You just chosed what u like and give it your own interpretation.

if u don't know, Hafsa is umar's daughter, not umar wife... Who told you Hafsa is umar's wife? Where did u see it?
Hafsa and Aisha are prophet Muhammad's wives.
Umar is prophets friend, also prophet's father in-law.

Now let me explain what happens in the who narration to u ( not the only part u cut and tell lies)

Aisha and Hafsa are prophet's wives and they offended the prophet.

Because... initiately they we're acting right but when prophet and his companions left mecca for medina (media people are called Ansar). Umar noticed that their women(mecca) have been beginning to immitate the disrespectful behavior of medina people(ansar).

So umar came to beg the prophet Muhammad because of his daughter (Hafsa) rude behavior.

Then he told the prophet what he notice about their women's (both wife and daughters)'s bad behavior since they've been living with ansar's women( who don't submit to husbands).

Then umar insulted his own daughter(hafsah) that she's not beautiful like Aisha(Muhammad's wife).

But to umar's suprise... He thought the prophet would become more angry but instead... The prophet just smiled at umar for taking things too personal.

Our prophet is the best of mankind. He doesn't get angry for petty things.
Muhammad(saw) was a very loving person. I'm proud to be a muslim.
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Now where did u see the nonsense you misinterpretated? I thought you were knowledgeable before ni... I intentionally take my time to reply you so that people can know all your lies and how u just cut whatever that suite you in order to create confusion... Next time I won't reply to similar nonsense.

2Arsenal:

By the way, what you qouted in the Bukhari is just like 1/10 of the whole narration. Why didn't you quote everything? You just chosed what u like and give it your own interpretation.

if u don't know, Hafsa is umar's daughter, not umar wife... Who told you Hafsa is umar's wife? Where did u see it?
Hafsa and Aisha are prophet Muhammad's wives.
Umar is prophets friend, also prophet's father in-law.

Now let me explain what happens in the who narration to u ( not the only part u cut and tell lies)

Aisha and Hafsa are prophet's wives and they offended the prophet.

Because... initiately they we're acting right but when prophet and his companions left mecca for medina (media people are called Ansar). Umar noticed that their women(mecca) have been beginning to immitate the disrespectful behavior of medina people(ansar).

So umar came to beg the prophet Muhammad because of his daughter (Hafsa) rude behavior.

Then he told the prophet what he notice about their women's (both wife and daughters)'s bad behavior since they've been living with ansar's women( who don't submit to husbands).

Then umar insulted his own daughter(hafsah) that she's not beautiful like Aisha(Muhammad's wife).

But to umar's suprise... He thought the prophet would become more angry but instead... The prophet just smiled at umar for taking things too personal.

Our prophet is the best of mankind. He doesn't get angry for petty things.
Muhammad(saw) was a very loving person. I'm proud to be a muslim.
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Now where did u see the nonsense you misinterpretated? I thought you were knowledgeable before ni... I intentionally take my time to reply you so that people can know all your lies and how u just cut whatever that suite you in order to create confusion... Next time I won't reply to similar nonsense.

Hahaha I love this guy. Took his time to actually read his Hadith that he was never taught. I will show you Islam

Let give you the win for a minute. Regardless of who it might be. If a man walked up to you telling you that he just insulted another woman and compared her to a teenager. How would you respond, as a principled man?

haekymbahd:
Like I care Islam is the fastest growing religion... You are only reaping the reward of what evil YHWH did in the past....

1 Samuel 15vs 3
Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’”


You are only paying for the sins your god committed imagine killing infants damn. Everyday is for the thief one day is for the owner..

You never see anything self your god was a killer now telling you people not to kill joke of the year...

Islam stands on a foot. Fastest growing with multiple wives.

If your comparison is to YHWH, why create Islam? Why not follow the existing religion?

Did allah approve of Mohammed spreading the legs of a boy and kissing his peniss?

Sixfiguresmart:
Islam stands on a foot. Fastest growing with multiple wives.

If your comparison is to YHWH, why create Islam? Why not follow the existing religion?

Because other religions failed God through disobedience Islam is the religion that makes evil christians shit in their pants it really spoiled market for evil christians and Jews.

It exposed the evil in christanity and thats why Christians like you hate Islam.


Question

You once told me Jesus is not God but son of God but did you realize that majority of christians accepts that Jesus is God, where did this false belief originate from since you claim you are not part of it?

I hope you don't run now like a flea




Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 18)

haekymbahd:
Because other religions failed God through disobedience Islam is the religion that makes evil christians shit in their pants it really spoiled market for evil christians and Jews.

It exposed the evil in christanity and thats why Christians like you hate Islam.


Question

You once told me Jesus is not God but son of God but did you realize that majority of christians accepts that Jesus is God, where did this belief originate from since you claim you are not part of it?

I hope you don't run now




Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 18)

You can see that you just have no point. You are holding on to a straw ,one particular straw that doesn't resonante with me or my faith, and not even with the Bible.

I follow the teachings of Christ. Do you follow the teachings of Mohammed?

Do you follow the quran when it asks you to smite our necks?

By the way. I will repost my ealier post and change the pronouns so that understanding will be simple for you.

Oh, cool. I am very sorry, Sir. Let me quote from al Bukhari. I really hope that Al Buhkari is not Shia. I see that you sound virtuous. Let me test your principledness.

sahih-bukhari-book-43 volume 003 hadith number 648

‘Umar told the whole story (about his wife). “On that the Prophet smiled.” ‘Umar further said, “I then said, ‘I went to Hafsa and said to her: Do not be tempted to imitate your companion (‘Aisha) for she is more beautiful than you and more beloved to the Prophet.’ The Prophet smiled again.

From the above, Umar came right in front of mohammed to narrate how he insulted his(Mohammed's) wife. Mohammed smiled in approval (that his wife just got insulted and her emotions battered). Was that a man with dignity? How would you expect your dad to react if your father's friend would walked up to him(YOUR DAD) to tell him that his side chick or a younger wife looked more beautiful than your mom and more loved than your mom?

Would you follow such example?

I bet this would provide better understanding for you. Meanwhile Hafsa was actually Mohammed's wife.

2Arsenal:

By the way, what you qouted in the Bukhari is just like 1/10 of the whole narration. Why didn't you quote everything? You just chosed what u like and give it your own interpretation.

if u don't know, Hafsa is umar's daughter, not umar wife... Who told you Hafsa is umar's wife? Where did u see it?
Hafsa and Aisha are prophet Muhammad's wives.
Umar is prophets friend, also prophet's father in-law.

Now let me explain what happens in the who narration to u ( not the only part u cut and tell lies)

Aisha and Hafsa are prophet's wives and they offended the prophet.

Because... initiately they we're acting right but when prophet and his companions left mecca for medina (media people are called Ansar). Umar noticed that their women(mecca) have been beginning to immitate the disrespectful behavior of medina people(ansar).

So umar came to beg the prophet Muhammad because of his daughter (Hafsa) rude behavior.

Then he told the prophet what he notice about their women's (both wife and daughters)'s bad behavior since they've been living with ansar's women( who don't submit to husbands).

Then umar insulted his own daughter(hafsah) that she's not beautiful like Aisha(Muhammad's wife).

But to umar's suprise... He thought the prophet would become more angry but instead... The prophet just smiled at umar for taking things too personal.

Our prophet is the best of mankind. He doesn't get angry for petty things.
Muhammad(saw) was a very loving person. I'm proud to be a muslim.
.
.
.
Now where did u see the nonsense you misinterpretated? I thought you were knowledgeable before ni... I intentionally take my time to reply you so that people can know all your lies and how u just cut whatever that suite you in order to create confusion... Next time I won't reply to similar nonsense.

Sixfiguresmart:
Hahaha I love this guy. Took his time to actually read his Hadith that he was never taught. I will show you Islam

Let give you the win for a minute. Regardless of who it might be. If a man walked up to you telling you that he just insulted another woman and compared her to a teenager. How would you respond, as a principled man?

The hadith that you quoted, what caused the hadith?? You don't know right??

Lol... You will show me islam?? You that you don't know Arabic letter talkless of reading Arabic text. Is like KG1 pupil trying to argue with a professor... Lol

I have read all the books you read and will answer all your questions because I love debating with people.

Your problem is that you guys would just read anti-islam book and think you can win Muslims. Even the people that wrote those books ( GJO Moshay and others) can not debate with me and win.

Oh, really! Thank you, very much, Sir. You are welcome to Islamic Arabic 101. I promise not to read from any book. You can search online if I plagiarized or not. I will bring it to you straight from the Quran. We will surely have a long ride because I seem to like you very much. You are very level headed and polite.

Surah 112:1 قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

In the Quranic verse, allah is mentioned to be ONE OF...

The actual word used up there in the quran is أَحَدٌ (Ahad) meaning 'one OF'. So just as the quran uses 'we' to personate allah, there are surely them out there in Mecca. 'Wahid' means 'one'.

Another point is the spurious insertion of AND INDIVISIBLE in the English version when such a thing is not present in the Arabic inscription above.

Where did they get it?

I want you to explain to me as the Arabic expert that you are why Allah cannot be pronominalized but rather verbalized as ONE OF in the very noble quran?

2Arsenal:



The hadith that you quoted, what caused the hadith?? You don't know right??

Lol... You will show me islam?? You that you don't know Arabic letter talkless of reading Arabic text. Is like KG1 pupil trying to argue with a professor... Lol

I have read all the books you read and will answer all your questions because I love debating with people.

Your problem is that you guys would just read anti-islam book and think you can win Muslims. Even the people that wrote those books ( GJO Moshay and others) can not debate with me and win.

Sixfiguresmart:
Oh, really! Thank you, very much, Sir. You are welcome to Islamic Arabic 101. I promise not to read from any book. You can search online if I plagiarized or not. I will bring it to you straight from the Quran. We will surely have a long ride because I seem to like you very much. You are very level headed and polite.

Surah 112:1 قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

In the Quranic verse, allah is mentioned to be ONE OF...

The actual word used up there in the quran is أَحَدٌ (Ahad) meaning 'one OF'. So just as the quran uses 'we' to personate allah, there are surely them out there in Mecca. 'Wahid' means 'one'.

Another point is the spurious insertion of AND INDIVISIBLE in the English version when such a thing is not present in the Arabic inscription above.

Where did they get it?

I want you to explain to me as the Arabic expert that you are why Allah cannot be pronominalized but rather verbalized as ONE OF in the very noble quran?

Lol... Even non muslims Arabic professor testitify that Quran has the higher eloquence in all Arabic written books ( even though they don't have Islamic faith). Their argument is that having high eloquence does not neccesarily mean it come from God. They say there are eloquent books written in Hindu too.

Arabic scholar(non Muslims) don't have problem with Quran grammar.. The only people that see grammatical error in the quran are those that are just starting learning Arabic to pick mistake in quran.

(Ahadu) is one, wahid is also one... Just like in one, single are synonyms. Go ask people that have knowledge.

Another thing is this... Incase you dont know, There are some verses in Quran that seems like an error for people that are just learning Arabic grammar because some basic rule will change in some instance. People that are just learning would see it as an error in order to criticize, but knowledgeable people will surely know what they are criticizing is correct, their criticism is only based on ignorance.

Let me give u an example in English language...
Pronoun "He/she" are for animals.. especially human
"It" is use for animal/non living/ghost.

What if we say "Nigeria got HER independent in 1960".... while "Nigeria" is not a female.

To primary one student who is just learning basic grammar... Is it an gramatical error.. YES!!!
To us... Is it an error... Hell no!
Same thing goes yoruba I speak. I wish you understand yoruba to get me better.

As for Allah using pronoun "we" for himself. Does it mean Allah is more than one?
Or Does it mean it's an error... The answer to both questions is NO.

LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU.
No language can perfectly translate another language 100%. And that's why Muslim don't rely on non Arabic text Quran as there are some things that are very difficult to English because English language don't have it.

Allah(swt) using "we" for himself even though he us one is not an issue to yoruba because we use plural for single person too if u if that person is a respectable person/ or u respect the person.

Arabic and yoruba has plural of respect, English language doesn't have. Everything is 'you' whether young, Old, single person, or more than one. Everything is you.

Ask any yoruba person if u thing I'm lying... We we use singular pronoun "iwo" for single person that you are older than or age mate like your friend. But we use plural pronoun "eyin" if these people are more one...

If you want to address anyone that is older than you like your father, mother, elder brother, teacher and others... You must use plural pronoun/(eyin) for such person. That's why you can never see an elderly yoruba person feeling disrespectfed if Igbo or Hausa who is just starting to speak our language uses "iwo" for elderly for an elderly person.

Another example.. if u ask a boy, where is your father? The boy would answer "won ti lo car park"... Meaning "he has gone to car park"

But if u ask the same boy "where is your friend"
The boy would answer "O ti lo car park" meaning... The same "He has gone to car park"

There is no way to distinguishing when u write both in English. meanwhile both "HE" in the both statements are not the same when u translate both to yoruba. First He is plural of respect. Second "HE" is ordinary singular.

In conclusion, "we" that Allah use in the Quran is to show that he is very great. It is plural of respect, not plural of number. English doesn't use plural of respect, they use either "He", "She" You, whether Irrespective of the age, social status of whom they are addressing.
Thanks

Sixfiguresmart:
Oh, really! Thank you, very much, Sir. You are welcome to Islamic Arabic 101. I promise not to read from any book. You can search online if I plagiarized or not. I will bring it to you straight from the Quran. We will surely have a long ride because I seem to like you very much. You are very level headed and polite.

Surah 112:1 قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

In the Quranic verse, allah is mentioned to be ONE OF...

The actual word used up there in the quran is أَحَدٌ (Ahad) meaning 'one OF'. So just as the quran uses 'we' to personate allah, there are surely them out there in Mecca. 'Wahid' means 'one'.

Another point is the spurious insertion of AND INDIVISIBLE in the English version when such a thing is not present in the Arabic inscription above.

Where did they get it?

I want you to explain to me as the Arabic expert that you are why Allah cannot be pronominalized but rather verbalized as ONE OF in the very noble quran?

The word echad was used to refer to one God in the bible also

Deu 6 vs 4

Shema Yisrael, Yehowah, Elohainoo, Yehowah aichod,

`Hear, Israel Jehovah, our God,is one Jehovah.'



In the bible verse above echad is used to refer to one

Question for sixfiguresmart
[b]Is Yahwe (Jehovah) your god more than one?


I hope you don't run away like a flea as usual so an an Hebrew expert that you are I want you to explain why "ehad" one of is used for YHWH?

2Arsenal:

Lol... Even non muslims Arabic professor testitify that Quran has the higher eloquence in all Arabic written books ( even though they don't have Islamic faith). Their argument is that having high eloquence does not neccesarily mean it come from God. They say there are eloquent books written in Hindu too.

Tell me those people and I will tell you who got paid. There are so many Arabic literary works that outmatch the quran but a far stretch. The quran in question was a monarchical project. It took the entire ulamas in the Abassid caliphate to write this very quran that has been etched and reviewed a million times. As a testament of the eloquence of this very quran, I will like you to refer you to the noble observation made by the Saudis themselves. https://www.memri.org/reports/articles-saudi-press-call-amend-thousands-scribal-errors-quran-reexamine-islamic-texts-light. In the land of your pilgrimmage, 2500 eloquent errors were found in your quran. How about that?

2Arsenal:

Arabic scholar(non Muslims) don't have problem with Quran grammar.. The only people that see grammatical error in the quran are those that are just starting learning Arabic to pick mistake in quran.

https://www.memri.org/reports/articles-saudi-press-call-amend-thousands-scribal-errors-quran-reexamine-islamic-texts-light. The above are Saudis born and raised. The home of the prophet. They are taught every facet of the quran and islam better than you. I do not know how you grade Arabic speakers.

2Arsenal:

(Ahadu) is one, wahid is also one... Just like in one, single are synonyms. Go ask people that have knowledge.

Show me ANY TEXT or reference where Ahad is eloquently used as one. I want to read it.

2Arsenal:

Another thing is this... Incase you dont know, There are some verses in Quran that seems like an error for people that are just learning Arabic grammar because some basic rule will change in some instance. People that are just learning would see it as an error in order to criticize, but knowledgeable people will surely know what they are criticizing is correct, their criticism is only based on ignorance.

Oga, as a polyglot, I can tell you that every damn language on earth has rules. Basic rules that you cannot alter no matter how irrelevant that language might be on the world's stage. Language follows rules not knowledgeable people. Arabic speakers will tell you that the quran was written in the same way all Abbasid literary texts such as poetry were written. The Quran was actually from the Abassid caliphate. There is not a single record or linguistic peculiarities apart from hearsay that dates back to uthman. Tell those knowledgeable men to sit in a dumpster and give me the language rule to guide me.

2Arsenal:

Let me give u an example in English language...

Por favor, senor go for it!

2Arsenal:

Pronoun "He/she" are for animals.. especially human
"It" is use for animal/non living/ghost.

What if we say "Nigeria got HER independent in 1960".... while "Nigeria" is not a female.

To primary one student who is just learning basic grammar... Is it an gramatical error.. YES!!!
To us... Is it an error... Hell no!
Same thing goes yoruba I speak. I wish you understand yoruba to get me better.

As for Allah using pronoun "we" for himself. Does it mean Allah is more than one?
Or Does it mean it's an error... The answer to both questions is NO.

If you look at the base of your logic, you can clearly see the barriers limiting the power of your reference. You are stuck on Yoruba language which has no linguistic resemblance to Arabic. A smart man would have reach out to Syriac, Farsi, Hebrew, Aramaic etc. Why? Because these languages share similar lexical and grammatical rules to Arabic. Try referencing any of those languages and see how the walls of your argument will crumble. The Yoruba language has very limited vocabulary and should not even be compared to Afroasiatic languages.

2Arsenal:

LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU.

I am all in attendance. Raise the fire

2Arsenal:

No language can perfectly translate another language 100%. And that's why Muslim don't rely on non Arabic text Quran as there are some things that are very difficult to English because English language don't have it.

But, ain't that what the Muslims criticise the Bible for? You claim that the Bible is corrupt that there are variant Bibles. Would you present this logic to your fellow muslims? Now, no language can be 100% translated word for word but the content can be. I will give you an example. In French we say, "bonjour". I can translate that as 'Good morning'. I can also translate that as 'good day'. Why? bon=good, jour=day. So, why did I say "good morning" earlier? Culture. It is culturally accepted to say Good morning and it was adopted. Did it alter the meaning? No! Did it limit it? Yes. Cos Day covers the entire 24 hours while Morning covers a half of it. This is the depth of language that is outre to you.

2Arsenal:

Allah(swt) using "we" for himself even though he us one is not an issue to yoruba because we use plural for single person too if u if that person is a respectable person/ or u respect the person.

Arabic and yoruba has plural of respect, English language doesn't have. Everything is 'you' whether young, Old, single person, or more than one. Everything is you.

Ask any yoruba person if u thing I'm lying... We we use singular pronoun "iwo" for single person that you are older than or age mate like your friend. But we use plural pronoun "eyin" if these people are more one...

If you want to address anyone that is older than you like your father, mother, elder brother, teacher and others... You must use plural pronoun/(eyin) for such person. That's why you can never see an elderly yoruba person feeling disrespectfed if Igbo or Hausa who is just starting to speak our language uses "iwo" for elderly for an elderly person.

Another example.. if u ask a boy, where is your father? The boy would answer "won ti lo car park"... Meaning "he has gone to car park"

But if u ask the same boy "where is your friend"
The boy would answer "O ti lo car park" meaning... The same "He has gone to car park"

There is no way to distinguishing when u write both in English. meanwhile both "HE" in the both statements are not the same when u translate both to yoruba. First He is plural of respect. Second "HE" is ordinary singular. [/quote] I am a Yoruba boy here and I find your comparison outrageously schizophrenic. Do not ever explain a language that you do not know the grammar rules. Never ever do that because you have a knowledge of one language does not mean that you own the right to comparison and making conclusions. Arabic and Yoruba are absolutely contrasting languages. Why is Yoruba not read from right to left? Why does Yoruba use Latin alphabet?
Sir, let me break the ice to you, there is nothing like plural of respect in Arabic. Arabs are very expressive with words and respect is not given by referring to yourself as WE. They have titles for every individual and Arabic words are either masculine or feminine. Arabic verbs reflect on the persons and pronouns. If your rule stays right, show me more texts in which plural of respects were used. I can show you how the royal we is used in English language and even till this day, it continues to be used. I wonder how or why WE suddenly disappears in Arabic language since it is plural of respect. Mind you, does it mean that allah is disrespectful or denigrating himself when he used "I"? Why is he so inconsistent with his own identity or description? Show me someone else who used the plural of respect in any islamic text and I will point out the people inferred in the WE.

2Arsenal:

In conclusion, "we" that Allah use in the Quran is to show that he is very great. It is plural of respect, not plural of number. English doesn't use plural of respect, they use either "He", "She" You, whether Irrespective of the age, social status of whom they are addressing.
Thanks

At the times that he did not use it, would you concede that allah is very small?

I will post a verse in the quran below and I would want you to use your plural of respect to explain it. Also, if you can, translate it to Yoruba and see if your explanation above can continue to be logical to you. Remember that you said that Yoruba and Arabic employs respect. Let us eloquently and respectfully see how this surah will sound in Yoruba and I highlighted the key points.

Surah 5:48
We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will [/b]is to test you with what [b]He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah [/b]you will all return, then [b]He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences.

Sixfiguresmart:
I asked you from the get-go if I can show you from a source. but, you argued of the originality of the source. I, then asked you for a source and you provided from one that is not original.

Every other prophet's job was listed in the quran. I want to see mohammed's job IN the quran too if he was a prophet.

The hadith is not inspired and was written about a century after Mohammed died. None of those people who wrote the hadith were there. It was all reported speech. They said and he said. Please let the noble quran lecture us. That is the source that is authentic and original.

Can you show me?

In his early teens, Muhammad worked in a camel caravan, following in the footsteps of many people his age, born of meager wealth. Working for his uncle, he gained experience in commercial trade traveling to Syria and eventually from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. In time, Muhammad earned a reputation as
honest and sincere, acquiring the nickname “al-Amin”
meaning faithful or trustworthy.
In his early 20s, Muhammad began working for a wealthy
merchant woman named Khadijah, 15 years his senior.
She soon became attracted to this young, accomplished
man and proposed marriage. He accepted and over the
years the happy union brought several children. Not all
lived to adulthood, but one, Fatima, would marry
Muhammad’s cousin, Ali ibn Abi Talib, whom Shi’ite
Muslims regard as Muhammad’s successor.

Sixfiguresmart:
I asked you from the get-go if I can show you from a source. but, you argued of the originality of the source. I, then asked you for a source and you provided from one that is not original.

Every other prophet's job was listed in the quran. I want to see mohammed's job IN the quran too if he was a prophet.

The hadith is not inspired and was written about a century after Mohammed died. None of those people who wrote the hadith were there. It was all reported speech. They said and he said. Please let the noble quran lecture us. That is the source that is authentic and original.

Can you show me?

In his early teens, Muhammad worked in a camel caravan, following in the footsteps of many people his age, born of meager wealth. Working for his uncle, he gained experience in commercial trade traveling to Syria and eventually from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. In time, Muhammad earned a reputation as honest and sincere, acquiring the nickname “al-Amin” meaning faithful or trustworthy.
In his early 20s, Muhammad began working for a wealthy merchant woman named Khadijah, 15 years his senior. She soon became attracted to this young, accomplished man and proposed marriage. He accepted and over the years the happy union brought several children.

Thank you, my beloved haekymbahd. You are such a sweet soul. Echad in Hebrew means ONE. So, Jehovah is one. Please, look at the attachments for many other references on how echad was used in reference to other people or even things besides Jehovah. That was what I was asking regarding the quran, but no one was able to provide it. I am glad that research is easier for you in the Bible.

haekymbahd:
The word echad was used to refer to one God in the bible also

Deu 6 vs 4

Shema Yisrael, Yehowah, Elohainoo, Yehowah aichod,

`Hear, Israel Jehovah, our God,is one Jehovah.'



In the bible verse above echad is used to refer to one

Question for sixfiguresmart
[b]Is Yahwe (Jehovah) your god more than one?


I hope you don't run away like a flea as usual so an an Hebrew expert that you are I want you to explain why "ehad" one of is used for YHWH?

Please, haekymbahd I want you to do me a favor. Kindly get a bigger speaker and help me to amplify this comment of yours. I truly need you to help me spread this big discovery of yours so that many people will come to hear and know that Jehovah is ECHAD.

Hahaha. you are totally disillusioned in this plagiarism. Show me his job from the quran.

ACCURETE:


In his early teens, Muhammad worked in a camel caravan, following in the footsteps of many people his age, born of meager wealth. Working for his uncle, he gained experience in commercial trade traveling to Syria and eventually from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. In time, Muhammad earned a reputation as honest and sincere, acquiring the nickname “al-Amin” meaning faithful or trustworthy.
In his early 20s, Muhammad began working for a wealthy merchant woman named Khadijah, 15 years his senior. She soon became attracted to this young, accomplished man and proposed marriage. He accepted and over the years the happy union brought several children.

Sixfiguresmart:
Hahaha. you are totally disillusioned in this plagiarism. Show me his job from the quran.

I have pass my message to you is up to you. see what the bible say about argument that you have been doing all this time free free to correct if am wrong those verses.

Philippians 2:14 ESV
Do all things without grumbling or questioning,

2 Timothy 2:23-24 ESV
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,

Romans 14:19 ESV
So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual up building.

Galatians 5:22-23 ESV
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Titus 3:9 ESV
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

Proverbs 29:22 ESV
A man of wrath stirs up strife, and one given to anger causes much transgression.

Sixfiguresmart:
Hahaha. you are totally disillusioned in this plagiarism. Show me his job from the quran.

This does not just make sense Quran is just the direct revelation of God to Muhammad and not the life history of Muhammad...

You only knew Jesus was a carpenter and Moses was a Shepherd through the alleged biography (unverified) written for them so why will you discredit Islamic sources.

If you show where YHWH called Jesus a carpenter or Moses a Shepherd then your question can be valid but this does not make sense....

Sixfiguresmart:
Thank you, my beloved haekymbahd. You are such a sweet soul. Echad in Hebrew means ONE. So, Jehovah is one. Please, look at the attachments for many other references on how echad was used in reference to other people or even things besides Jehovah. That was what I was asking regarding the quran, but no one was able to provide it. I am glad that research is easier for you in the Bible.

You still haven't explained why echad was used for Jehovah when he is one God forget about attachment now?


So what answers were you expecting Muslims to give you that will convince you other than those you were given earlier....

Sixfiguresmart:

Please, haekymbahd I want you to do me a favor. Kindly get a bigger speaker and help me to amplify this comment of yours. I truly need you to help me spread this big discovery of yours so that many people will come to hear and know that Jehovah is ECHAD.

I gave you the answer from the bible because that is the only answer you want if this had been from some other books you will still argue...

I think you should be the one to tell your brothers in Christ well they might see you as the heretic one, you left the job your are suppose to do then jump into what does not consign you.


...ati Inu Ile lati n keso ro de...

What evinces you of the authenticity of the Hadith?

ACCURETE:
I have pass my message to you is up to you. see what the bible say about argument that you have been doing all this time free free to correct if am wrong those verses.

Philippians 2:14 ESV
Do all things without grumbling or questioning,

2 Timothy 2:23-24 ESV
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,

Romans 14:19 ESV
So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual up building.

Galatians 5:22-23 ESV
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Titus 3:9 ESV
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

Proverbs 29:22 ESV
A man of wrath stirs up strife, and one given to anger causes much transgression.

Moses wrote the Torah and he wrote what he did in it. David told us what he did. Daniel told us what he did. Paul whom you discredit provided clues regarding his career. Why can't the noble quran contain the life of Mohammed for the readers. The Hadiths were all written tens and hundreds of years after the dead of Mohammed. It is all about hearsay. Why should I rely on it when I have alternative reports in it.

For example, the Hadith said that Mohammed stole spread the legs of nude boy and brought his mouth that he uses to say the du'a to the penissess of those males. Do you accept that is a homosexual act? Would you follow such example?

haekymbahd:
This does not just make sense Quran is just the direct revelation of God to Muhammad and not the life history of Muhammad...

You only knew Jesus was a carpenter and Moses was a Shepherd through the alleged biography (unverified) written for them so why will you discredit Islamic sources.

If you show where YHWH called Jesus a carpenter or Moses a Shepherd then your question can be valid but this does not make sense....

haekymbahd:
You still haven't explained why echad was used for Jehovah when he is one God forget about attachment now?

It is self-explanatory that was why I came with the original receipts because Jehovah is Echad. He is one Jehovah. And, the Bible testifies it. There is no doubt about what you see in the Bible. We accept and believe that as the fact. Whoever teaches contrary to that is not in agreement with the BIble. Since you present this as your argument, do you now believe that Jehovah is ONE?

haekymbahd:

So what answers were you expecting Muslims to give you that will convince you other than those you were given earlier....

Maybe I have lost the train of thought on this line. The truth that I expect all muslims to give me is nothing but the truth. Own up to the lies recorded in the quran. For example, reconcile the 2500 errors that the Saudis have found in the nnoble quran, Provide the earliest copies of the quran and let us examine it, allow independent archeologists to unearth the artefacts rather than burning the evidence, and accept that mohmmed performed a homosexual act whichpaved the way for the Abbasid caliphate to permeate pervasiveness for 1200 years and even spreading it to Europe. Are these difficult for Muslims to do?

haekymbahd:

I gave you the answer from the bible because that is the only answer you want if this had been from some other books you will still argue...

You gave me and I accepted it. I begged you to get a bigger speaker to amplify what you discovered so that everyone will come to know it. Is that opposition? I am in total agreement with you on that one.

haekymbahd:

I think you should be the one to tell your brothers in Christ well they might see you as the heretic one, you left the job your are suppose to do then jump into what does not consign you.

...ati Inu Ile lati n keso ro de...

My goodness, Hakim! This is the best job in the world. I am doing my best. I am also helping you to learn about Islam. The Arabs do not want you to. I went, saw, and I am telling. If you would have been honest, you would confess that I have brought so many new things to your table. The powerful points that I am highlighting, you can hardly find these online. I take my time to read through the quran and it takes hours of concentration and research. I do not want to profit from this. It is blood money. I would have simply written a book and sold it. I believe that I am better than the profit. The lives that I am saving is worth more to me. The eyes that I am opening is more important to me.
I didn't come to nairaland to antagonize islam. I initially came here for comic relief. I was after the false christians for a while but then again I saw the prejudice here. How I am allowed to say any trash to Christians but got banned when all I did was state a basic fact about islam. That blew my mind right there.

I do not hate Muslims. I have many muslim friends who call me to this day from many parts of the world. My ish is with islam. The deception, the lies and spuriousness. I know islam that deep and I am able to easily break free cos' I have no family ties to islam. I went in alone and ejected myself without a hesitation. I never knew about Islam when I went in. They painted it as a religion of 'B'eace. As Arabs cannot sound the letter 'P'. They bought me over and I began agitating against Israel. Not, until I got in and it became obvious that something was wrong somewhere.

So, I will indulge you to read the Bible more. And, have an open attitude when you do.

haekymbahd:
This does not just make sense Quran is just the direct revelation of God to Muhammad and not the life history of Muhammad...

You only knew Jesus was a carpenter and Moses was a Shepherd through the alleged biography (unverified) written for them so why will you discredit Islamic sources.

If you show where YHWH called Jesus a carpenter or Moses a Shepherd then your question can be valid but this does not make sense....

You are the one claiming that they are unverified. Your prophet acknowledge the gospel. There is no other place where he learned about Jesus birth if not the gospel which is in the Greek scriptures. He kept on referring to the Christians and Jews as the people of the BOOK. His constant acknowledgement of that special book and the quran testifies that the book was given by allah. He went further to assert that the authentication of islam is the Bible. He asked you to come to us to find the answers whenever you are lost.

We need no Hadith to explain the Bible. All the writers of the Bible were born during Jesus presence on earth. No one was a total stranger. If the Bible could have been written 600 years before islam, imagine how detailed islam should have been. cos the Greek scriptures provided even fonder details than the Hebrew scriptures.

Imagine that we have fragments of the Bible today that are 500 years older that islam. Let that sink in for a minute. All the Bible fragments are older than the existence of islam. Yet, you disproof all these evidence even when your own prophet testified to their veracity. Then you are presenting a book that is 200 years younger that the religion that it represents. Sahih al-Bukhari is a hadith compiled by a Persian scholar in 870 and he named it after himself. Not, an eyewitness but just a writer who is not inspired but he named the book of islam after himself.

How can I throw away a book that is 700 years older than the Hadith for the Hadith? Is that logical? And, I am only talking about the new testament, whereas the old testament is thousands of years older than the Hadith and the quran.

Forget about the Bibles today, we are talking about artefacts and archaeological fragments that predate islam by a far margin in years.

Sixfiguresmart:
Show me ANY TEXT or reference where Ahad is eloquently used as one. I want to read it.

Mr Scholar, please translate this...
قُلۡ اِنَّمَاۤ اَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثۡلُكُمۡ يُوۡحٰٓى اِلَىَّ اَنَّمَاۤ اِلٰهُكُمۡ اِلٰـهٌ وَّاحِدٌ​  ۚ فَمَنۡ كَانَ يَرۡجُوۡالِقَآءَ رَبِّهٖ فَلۡيَـعۡمَلۡ عَمَلًا صَالِحًـاوَّلَايُشۡرِكۡ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهٖۤ اَحَدًا

Sixfiguresmart:
Show me ANY TEXT or reference where Ahad is eloquently used as one. I want to read it.

Mr arabic scholar, kindly help me translate this

قُلۡ اِنَّمَاۤ اَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثۡلُكُمۡ يُوۡحٰٓى اِلَىَّ اَنَّمَاۤ اِلٰهُكُمۡ اِلٰـهٌ وَّاحِدٌ​  ۚ فَمَنۡ كَانَ يَرۡجُوۡالِقَآءَ رَبِّهٖ فَلۡيَـعۡمَلۡ عَمَلًا صَالِحًـاوَّلَايُشۡرِكۡ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهٖۤ اَحَدًا‏

Tell me what it is. What point are you trying to make?

2Arsenal:

Mr arabic scholar, kindly help me translate this

قُلۡ اِنَّمَاۤ اَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثۡلُكُمۡ يُوۡحٰٓى اِلَىَّ اَنَّمَاۤ اِلٰهُكُمۡ اِلٰـهٌ وَّاحِدٌ​  ۚ فَمَنۡ كَانَ يَرۡجُوۡالِقَآءَ رَبِّهٖ فَلۡيَـعۡمَلۡ عَمَلًا صَالِحًـاوَّلَايُشۡرِكۡ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهٖۤ اَحَدًا‏