.

FRANCISTOWN:


Are you not the same guy who doesn't understand simple english tenses.
I think I remember one dunce like that who couldn't differentiate between tenses. Oh my! Was it you?
No event in the Bible was recorded in a present perfect tense, present tense and present continuous tense. Well you would not even understand, lemme not waste my energy on someone with 14. IQ

I maintain that, none of Jesus' gospel books was written when the imaginary Jesus was said to have lived.

They were all written centuries after, and by the way, Matthew was not the first gospel book.

Stop increasing your stupidity and displaying your foolishness.

Every normal person knows the difference between the report of a person who saw an event as different from the one who did not see the event. And the difference is very very clear beyond dispute.

And it is a sign of great stupidity and foolishness for you to be thinking that my argument is based on the words "perfect present tenses or whatever". Your iq is even more than -14. (I wonder if it would read -50?)

Dtruthspeaker:


Stop increasing your stupidity and displaying your foolishness.

_{Every normal person knows the difference between the report of a person who saw an event as different from the one who did not see the event. And the difference is very very clear beyond dispute.}

And it is a sign of great stupidity and foolishness for you to be thinking that my argument is based on the words "perfect present tenses or whatever". Your iq is even more than -14. (I wonder if it would read -50?)

@ the emboldened, if my IQ was more than -14, then it should be in-between -13< 0 < 200+. It would never reduce to -50.
BTW, a human's IQ cannot be at the negative.

From the above , it clearly shows that you do not understand simple english and basic maths.

@the subscripted text, I don't even know what to say to you. You obviously don't understand simple english structures.

There is nothing to explain to you, you are just too dumb to understand. A primary 3 kid probably understands English language better than you.

FRANCISTOWN:

@ the emboldened, if my IQ was more than -14, then it should be in-between -13< 0 < 200+. It would never reduce to -50.
BTW, a human's IQ cannot be at the negative.

See your no intelligent self!
0 is indeed greater than -13 thus reduction is -50 greater than-13. (-50<-30<-13).

Therefore, you just proved that you are -50 more dumber than -13.

Dtruthspeaker:


See your no intelligent self!
0 is indeed greater than -13 thus reduction is
-50 greater than-13 . (-50<-30<-13).

Therefore, you just proved that you are -50 more dumber than -13.

Lol! Your parents should have sent you to a good primary school or at least tutor you themselves.
So in your own village, -50 is greater than -13? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I swr, I lost all the ability to can't.

You don't even worth my response at all, you don't understand simple english and basic maths? Ha! Your own have done🤣🤣🤣

FRANCISTOWN:


Lol! Your parents should have sent you to a good primary school or at least tutor you themselves.
So in your own village, -50 is greater than -13? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I swr, I lost all the ability to can't...🤣

Kai! Your school, your parents and ordinary common sense did not teach you that -50 is greater than -13 in the negative count?

That a person owing N50 definitely has a greater debt to pay than a person owing N13? Boy you are too dumb to be here. You should be in the field playing police and thief.

Dtruthspeaker:


Kai! Your school, your parents and ordinary common sense did not teach you that -50 is greater than -13 in the negative count?

That a person owing N50 definitely has a greater debt to pay than a person owing N13? Boy you are too dumb to be here. You should be in the field playing police and thief.

This was your initial post, where in the post did you say "my IQ was greater than -14 in the negative"?

Dtruthspeaker:


And it is a sign of great stupidity and foolishness for you to be thinking that my argument is based on the words "perfect present tenses or whatever". Your iq is even more than -14. (I wonder if it would read -50?)

It was until I schooled your grandfather's ass that you decided to add the negative clause.
I say you no Sabi English I swr, you don't understand simple english structures.
There is nothing nobody can tell me, you no get common entrance.
A 7years old kid probably understands English language better than you

FRANCISTOWN:

@ the emboldened, if my IQ was more than -14, then it should be in-between -13< 0 < 200+. It would never reduce to -50.
BTW, a human's IQ cannot be at the negative.

From the above , it clearly shows that you do not understand simple english and basic maths.

@the subscripted text, I don't even know what to say to you. You obviously don't understand simple english structures.

There is nothing to explain to you, you are just too dumb to understand. A primary 3 kid probably understands English language better than you.

Dtruthspeaker...this is not me oh...

The evidence is mounting

sonmvayina:


Dtruthspeaker...this is not me oh...

The evidence is mounting

Where is the confusion coming from?
And which/what evidence is mounting?

Nsogbu001:
Jesus is a Jew as we were told and now the Jews don't even know about him.
I hope we are on the right track. Somebody should enlighten us.
Constructive opinions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBlXX11Ls4k

Jews know about Jesus but they hate and despise Him.

John 1:10-11:
"He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came to his own, and his own received him not."

Mar 6:1,3-6:
"And he went out from there, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him. … Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. But Jesus, said to them, A prophet is not without honor, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marveled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching."

FRANCISTOWN:


Where is the confusion coming from?
And which/what evidence is mounting?

He is a slowpoke....


He is dumber than Lou ferigno

FRANCISTOWN:


This was your initial post, where in the post did you say "my IQ was greater than -14 in the negative"?

Dumbty-dumbty here it is looking at ya!

Dtruthspeaker:

And it is a sign of great stupidity and foolishness for you to be thinking that my argument is based on the words "perfect present tenses or whatever". Your iq IS EVEN MORE THAN -14.(or greater than -14 (I wonder if it would read -50?). Fooldirat!

And for your further display of stupidity, it is now read -110. Dumbat.

TenQ:

Jews know about Jesus but they hate and despise Him.

John 1:10-11:
"He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came to his own, and his own received him not."

Mar 6:1,3-6:
"And he went out from there, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him. … Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. But Jesus, said to them, A prophet is not without honor, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marveled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching."

And the evidence you have is the propaganda written by christians..


Issorite

sonmvayina:


And the evidence you have is the propaganda written by christians..


Issorite

There is no Jew who doesn't know about Jesus of the Christians: they only see it as ridiculous.

Even Jews say without Christianity, few people will know about Judaism. Now, even some Nigerian's practice Judaism

FRANCISTOWN:


Are you not the same guy who doesn't understand simple english tenses.
I think I remember one dunce like that who couldn't differentiate between tenses. Oh my! Was it you?
No event in the Bible was recorded in a present perfect tense, present tense and present continuous tense. Well you would not even understand, lemme not waste my energy on someone with 14. IQ

I maintain that, none of Jesus' gospel books was written when the imaginary Jesus was said to have lived.

They were all written centuries after, and by the way, Matthew was not the first gospel book.

Let me ask you a question, have u heard of the phrase 'Apostolic fathers'.
Your response will determine if I should continue the conversation with u?

SIRTee15:


Let me ask you a question, have u heard of the phrase 'Apostolic fathers'.
Your response will determine if I should continue the conversation with u?

Why wouldn't I know about The Apostolic Fathers? I spent my early years in Catholic.

Dtruthspeaker:


Dumbty-dumbty here it is looking at ya!

Dtruthspeaker:

And it is a sign of great stupidity and foolishness for you to be thinking that my argument is based on the words "perfect present tenses or whatever". Your iq IS EVEN MORE THAN -14.(or greater than -14 (I wonder if it would read -50?). Fooldirat!

And for your further display of stupidity, it is now read -110. Dumbat.

I say you are ordained for dumbness.
Lemme school your grandfather's ass.
It is impossible for a human IQ to be in the negative.
When your IQ is @ 0, it clinically means that you are dead.
A living being can't have an IQ in negative, a kid should know that much.

That's the reason you are forcing yourself not to have sense on a public forum like this ha! Must you show everyone that you are blessed with stupidity??

I guess that's the reason you didn't know -50 is lesser than -14. Baba said greater 🤣🤣🤣
I wonder the kind of family you are from, at least, if you're traveling parallel to wisdom at opposite directions, someone in your family should be brilliant enough to set your ass straight

sonmvayina:


He is a slowpoke....


He is dumber than Lou ferigno

It's true.
The guy is the king of dumb.
Balon d'dumb 🤣🤣🤣

FRANCISTOWN:

Why wouldn't I know about The Apostolic Fathers? I spent my early years in Catholic.

Ok good.
Now did the apostolic fathers read the gospel letters? Did they make reference to the gospel letters in their own writings?

FRANCISTOWN:

I say you are ordained for dumbness.
Lemme school your ass
It is impossible for a human IQ to be in the negative.

Foolarin! First, Change of Post. No one asked you whether it is possible or not fool.

Secondly, you are the first living fool to accomplish it.

Thirdly, you are irredeemably stupid to not see that a person owing 50million (-50m) is definitely owing greater than a person owing 13million (-13). King Fool.

FRANCISTOWN:

It's true.
The guy is the king of dumb.
Balon d'dumb 🤣🤣🤣

Ehen, see falling. Even to the level of consorting with a known madman. there goes the king of fools and his mad counselor.

SIRTee15:

Ok good.
Now did the apostolic fathers read the gospel letters? Did they make reference to the gospel letters in their own writings?

The information is available on Google, don't be lazy.
Come back and ask me reasonable questions.
I'm not sitting at you for an interview please

Dtruthspeaker:


Foolarin! First, Change of Post. No one asked you whether it is possible or not fool.

Secondly, you are the first living fool to accomplish it.

Stop talking like someone whose life has burnt.
A living human can't have his IQ on the negative. It's the same as saying " Michael Jackson who died long ago will grace tomorrow's occasion".
Anyone who hears that will conclude that it's either you are unfortunate or naturally dumb beyond redemption.
You are the dumbest person I've ever seen on NL.
I guess it was inherited.
Your father and your grandfather

Dtruthspeaker:

Thirdly, you are irredeemably stupid to not see that a person owing 50million (-50m) is definitely owing greater than a person owing 13million (-13). King Fool.

We are not talking about debt, we are talking about IQ. You are wrong, just accept it and move on, it's not a must to display your foolishness on a fine forum like NL.
This is the last response you'll get from me. I've taken note of your Moniker, whenever you come at am.
You won't get more than "Your father and your grandfather".
Please do not consider raising kids, because no kid should inherit this kind of a dull brain. You are irredeemably hopeless

FRANCISTOWN:

The information is available on Google, don't be lazy.
Come back and ask me reasonable questions.
I'm not sitting at you for an interview please

ok, fair enough.
So I searched google and it says the apostolic fathers read the gospel and reference the gospel letters in their own writings.
This destroys your fabricated claim that the gospels were written 100 years after Jesus.
The apostolic fathers were early Christians who personally knew the disciples of Jesus, this confirms they lived in the 1st century just like Jesus.
If they read the gospel, it means the gospel letters were written in the 1st century, same century Jesus lived.

You came here with your loud mouth claiming Jesus never existed and the gospel letters were written a century after he lived. A claim u cant back with any evidence.

I keep saying it, nairaland atheist are the laziest bunch I've ever met, and they never cease to disappoint. I have even retired a few here by forcing them to change their moniker after exposing them as sham.
They come here with bogus claims they cant provide evidence for and are easily debunked. The only thing they can confidently defend is the insult they throw at God. Challenge them intellectually and they shrink like the one above.

If I ask FRANCISTOWN now to provide evidence that Jesus never existed, he will fail miserably. But I will let him be, I dont want to be responsible for his retirement from nairaland.

FRANCISTOWN:

Stop talking like someone whose life has burnt.
A living human can't have his IQ on the negative...

Burnt Foolshon who is already frustrated with life and you are not yet 30 o. I can see your grey hairs and wrinkled skin at 35! it is impossible for elephants to fly, but surely, we all say it to remind fools.

FRANCISTOWN:

We are not talking about debt, we are talking about IQ. You are wrong, just accept it and move on, it's not a must to display your foolishness on a fine forum like NL.

Of course we are not talking about debt but about how you could not understand how -50million is greater than -13million, is shocking.

So, mad fools like you ought to be thrown into volcanoes like upon sight so that this forum can be clean and decent and reasonable again

Dtruthspeaker:


Burnt Foolshon who is already frustrated with life and you are not yet 30 o. I can see your grey hairs and wrinkled skin at 35! it is impossible for elephants to fly, but surely, we all say it to remind fools.



Of course we are not talking about debt but about how you could not understand how -50million is greater than -13million, is shocking.

So, mad fools like you ought to be thrown into volcanoes like upon sight so that this forum can be clean and decent and reasonable again

Balon D'Dumb . You are welcome, your royal foolishness

SIRTee15:


ok, fair enough.
So I searched google and it says the apostolic fathers read the gospel and reference the gospel letters in their own writings.
This destroys your fabricated claim that the gospels were written 100 years after Jesus.
The apostolic fathers were early Christians who personally knew the disciples of Jesus, this confirms they lived in the 1st century just like Jesus.
If they read the gospel, it means the gospel letters were written in the 1st century, same century Jesus lived.

You came here with your loud mouth claiming Jesus never existed and the gospel letters were written a century after he lived. A claim u cant back with any evidence.

I keep saying it, nairaland atheist are the laziest bunch I've ever met, and they never cease to disappoint. I have even retired a few here by forcing them to change their moniker after exposing them as sham.
They come here with bogus claims they cant provide evidence for and are easily debunked. The only thing they can confidently defend is the insult they throw at God. Challenge them intellectually and they shrink like the one above.

If I ask FRANCISTOWN now to provide evidence that Jesus never existed, he will fail miserably. But I will let him be, I dont want to be responsible for his retirement from nairaland.

I no too dey talk Abeg. Just 2% of my brain is probably more intelligent than all the Christians put together on this forum.

see the second paragraph on this

You don't know anything, yet you kept on arguing. I maintain that that nigga jesus never existed. There are no acheological proofs of his existence.

see here

see here too

The accounts of his
life were written (gasp!) fifty years
after the crucifixion!” And? The
earliest biography of Julius
Caesar was written 175 years
after his death, and the earliest
biography of Alexander the
Great was written 300 years
after his death. That doesn’t
stop historians from producing
remarkably detailed biographies
based on written sources.
“There is no mention of Jesus in
any Roman records from the
period.” That’s because there
are no Roman records from the
period. About anything

You see, read Kenneth Humphreys.
I can't talk too much, your Jesus
never lived. He was just an imaginary
fairy character to amuse children.
That's why prayers don't get answered.
Now provide any archeological facts for
the existence of Jesus. Since you are that
smart.
Mtcheeeew

FRANCISTOWN:

Balon D'Dumb . You are welcome, your royal foolishness

Stone King Mumudeen, the king of fools of all nations.

FRANCISTOWN:

I no too dey talk Abeg. Just 2% of my brain is probably more intelligent than all the Christians put together on this forum.

see the second paragraph on this

You don't know anything, yet you kept on arguing. I maintain that that nigga jesus never existed. There are no acheological proofs of his existence.

see here

see here too

The accounts of his
life were written (gasp!) fifty years
after the crucifixion!” And? The
earliest biography of Julius
Caesar was written 175 years
after his death, and the earliest
biography of Alexander the
Great was written 300 years
after his death. That doesn’t
stop historians from producing
remarkably detailed biographies
based on written sources.
“There is no mention of Jesus in
any Roman records from the
period.” That’s because there
are no Roman records from the
period. About anything

You see, read Kenneth Humphreys.
I can't talk too much, your Jesus
never lived. He was just an imaginary
fairy character to amuse children.
That's why prayers don't get answered.
Now provide any archeological facts for
the existence of Jesus. Since you are that
smart.
Mtcheeeew

This francistown is very funny, I asked for evidence of Jesus non existence, he brought us historical evidence of Jesus existence.

did u read those links at all
here.....

But the ancient references to Jesus are not just found in works by Christian authors, an argument that supports the historical authenticity of the character. “Jesus is also mentioned in ancient Jewish and Roman texts,” says McCane. For example, around the year 93, the Pharisee historian Flavius ​​Josephus left in his work Jewish Antiquities at least one indisputable reference to the “brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” Two decades later, the Romans Pliny and Tacitus also wrote about Jesus; the latter explained that the founder of the sect of Christians was executed during the mandate of Emperor Tiberius, when Pontius Pilate was governing in Judea.

Your gospel evidence corroborate my claim. The gospel letters were written in the 1st century. book of Mark was around 50 AD while book of John around 90 AD. Jesus lived 1AD to 33AD which meant the 1st gospel was written within 20 yrs after he lived....
unlike your bogus claim- If Jesus were alive when the first gospel was written, he would be 134 years old.


As I said, u are way beyond your depth on this matter. I'm sure u just started researching this topic after my post, reason for bringing wikipedia as evidence as well as other contradictory articles. And I'm sure u know nothing about apostolic fathers.

I will let u be, but be careful what u post here, some of us will call u out if u found to be intellectually deficient while making bogus claims..

SIRTee15:


This francistown is very funny, I asked for evidence of Jesus non existence, he brought us historical evidence of Jesus existence.

did u read those links at all
here.....

But the ancient references to Jesus are not just found in works by Christian authors, an argument that supports the historical authenticity of the character. “Jesus is also mentioned in ancient Jewish and Roman texts,” says McCane. For example, around the year 93, the Pharisee historian Flavius ​​Josephus left in his work Jewish Antiquities at least one indisputable reference to the “brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” Two decades later, the Romans Pliny and Tacitus also wrote about Jesus; the latter explained that the founder of the sect of Christians was executed during the mandate of Emperor Tiberius, when Pontius Pilate was governing in Judea.

Your gospel evidence corroborate my claim. The gospel letters were written in the 1st century. book of Mark was around 50 AD while book of John around 90 AD. Jesus lived 1AD to 33AD which meant the 1st gospel was written within 20 yrs after he lived....
unlike your bogus claim- If Jesus were alive when the first gospel was written, he would be 134 years old.


As I said, u are way beyond your depth on this matter. I'm sure u just started researching this topic after my post, reason for bringing wikipedia as evidence as well as other contradictory articles. And I'm sure u know nothing about apostolic fathers.

I will let u be, but be careful what u post here, some of us will call u out if u found to be intellectually deficient while making bogus claims..

Wait, what kind of a person
do you think you are talking
to.
My arguments are never based
on a single point of view. Check
all my earlier posts.
As much as I reject the existence
of any god, if I saw a christian
who says anything reasonable,
I'll acknowledge such post and I'll
praise the person.
My arguments on NL is not to
win any arguments, it's to
widen everyone's thinking
horizon.

In the links I asked you to check
out. Lemme start from the first.
Pliny and Tacitus work cannot be
proven, because no one can really
tell the exact date those works
were written, and they could have
been some parts of the Bible that
were rejected. I repeat that no
archeological facts, or any other
written works about Jesus' life
has been detected so far. If there
were archeological facts about the
"city of David" who lived centuries
before the time of your said "son
of God". How come there are no
facts to solidify that of Jesus?

Also, please read the link again.
The first gospel "Mark" was not
written by any of the apostle
directly.
@the emboldened, 50years A.D
means 50 years of the lord
of jesus and not within 20 years
after he lived.
Also, I'll like to point to the erro-
neous assertion that you made
about the gospel of Mark, the
gospel of Mark was not written
In 50.AD. it was infact written in
anything between 70A.D-120 A.D.
It was finished and completed
after the first century.

Let's say it was written in the year
70 A.D. Note that, Mark himself
was not a disciple of jesus. Read
that again, Mark was not a direct
disciple of jesus

The gospel of Mark was an account
of Peter. It further solidifies my claim
that none of Jesus' account was written
when that guy was alive. The first gospel
was written because Mark was an inte-
rpreter of Peter. Peter had already died
when Mark wrote the first gospel.

Mark himself didn't know Jesus, he
wrote down what he must have heard
from Peter.

See, I know all these things. I had to
use google immediately you asked
me for proofs. Do you know why? It's
because I didn't find out about all th-
ese facts on the internet. I found out
in some secret books of the Roman
Catholic Church.

And obviously, there is no way I can
refer you to such books.
Please read again and understand.

If the first gospel was written after the
first set of apostles had died, how were
they then able to write down words
for words what Jesus did and said.
There would have been of course lots
of errors because no one has that kinna
memory to remember what someone
said word for word many many years
ago.

That's why there are lots of contradi-
ctions between the gospels and the
letters of paul.

Paul wrote his letters before the first
gospel was written.
Paul himself never read or knew any-
thing about Jesus' life, except from
what he heard from different apostles.

I'm just saying this to help lots of
people who are angry at Jesus
calm down because that's the
truth.
JESUS NEVER LIVED.

FRANCISTOWN:


Wait, what kind of a person
do you think you are talking
to.
My arguments are never based
on a single point of view. Check
all my earlier posts.
As much as I reject the existence
of any god, if I saw a christian
who says anything reasonable,
I'll acknowledge such post and I'll
praise the person.
My arguments on NL is not to
win any arguments, it's to
widen everyone's thinking
horizon.

In the links I asked you to check
out. Lemme start from the first.
Pliny and Tacitus work cannot be
proven, because no one can really
tell the exact date those works
were written, and they could have
been some parts of the Bible that
were rejected. I repeat that no
archeological facts, or any other
written works about Jesus' life
has been detected so far. If there
were archeological facts about the
"city of David" who lived centuries
before the time of your said "son
of God". How come there are no
facts to solidify that of Jesus?

Also, please read the link again.
The first gospel "Mark" was not
written by any of the apostle
directly.
@the emboldened, 50years A.D
means 50 years after the death
of jesus and not within 20 years
after he lived.
Also, I'll like to point to the erro-
neous assertion that you made
about the gospel of Mark, the
gospel of Mark was not written
In 50.AD. it was infact written in
anything between 70A.D-120 A.D.
It was finished and completed
after the first century.

Let's say it was written in the year
70 A.D. Note that, Mark himself
was not a disciple of jesus. Read
that again, Mark was not a direct
disciple of jesus

The gospel of Mark was an account
of Peter. It further solidifies my claim
that none of Jesus' account was written
when that guy was alive. The first gospel
was written because Mark was an inte-
rpreter of Peter. Peter had already died
when Mark wrote the first gospel.

Mark himself didn't know Jesus, he
wrote down what he must have heard
from Peter.

See, I know all these things. I had to
use google immediately you asked
me for proofs. Do you know why? It's
because I didn't find out about all th-
ese facts on the internet. I found out
in some secret books of the Roman
Catholic Church.

And obviously, there is no way I can
refer you to such books.
Please read again and understand.

If the first gospel was written after the
first set of apostles had died, how were
they then able to write down words
for words what Jesus did and said.
There would have been of course lots
of errors because no one has that kinna
memory to remember what someone
said word for word many many years
ago.

That's why there are lots of contradi-
ctions between the gospels and the
letters of paul.

Paul wrote his letters before the first
gospel was written.
Paul himself never read or knew any-
thing about Jesus' life, except from
what he heard from different apostles.

I'm just saying this to help lots of
people who are angry at Jesus
calm down because that's the
truth.
JESUS NEVER LIVED.

U just contradicting yourself and not even making sense.
Jesus lived 1AD to 33AD. Gospel of Mark was written 60AD. Do the maths...how's the difference 50 years?

Peter died 68 AD, the gospel of Mark was already in circulation in the 60s AD.

U claim Jesus never existed, bring proof. Bring evidence that showed clearly that Jesus never existed. We have historical evidence of existence of Jesus.
That there's no archeology trace of someone is not an evidence of his non-existence.

What’s a good apologetic defense for the gospels recording the crucifixion on different days? I have seen Christians try and muddy the waters by directing the skeptics to focus on days of the week, calendar discrepancies, or differences between the Jewish and Roman start of the day, but none of these distractions address the issue: the last supper is a Passover Seder in Matthew, Mark, and Luke and so Jesus is killed on Passover in the Synoptics. In the gospel of John, the last supper is not a Passover Seder and Jesus is killed the day before Passover. Why isn’t this discrepancy an obvious sign that the writers intended the stories to be fictional?