Jesus says in Matthew 16:18. 'And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.'

What is your take on this verse? What is the Church? Was it ever established and, if so, where is it today?

I will build “My Church!” - can only mean one thing, which is that Christ founded the Church! The template was established by him and he empowered it on the day of Pentecost.
The twelve had been Baptized by John the Baptist. He taught them for three years, gave them the observance of the Lord’s supper and empowered them by the Holy Spirit.
The first Church was Jesus and his twelve disciples! The church that Christ established is still on the earth and observing the ordinances of its Lord and master, not traditions of men. Note that the word “church “ means an organized assembly of baptized believers. It’s a gathering of people in a place, not an organization or building!
Where are these Churches today? - study your Bible to show yourself approved unto God, be a Berean by using scripture to confirm whether you are in a business enterprise run by the “gods of men” or in the spiritual house established on the unchanging faith that Jesus built which has always existed.
Matthew 28:18 - 20 shows that Churches build Churches. It’s not an individual issue because it’s based on scriptural doctrines of God, not false claims of “God told me” etc!

There's no church in heaven or anywhere outside earth

Jesus founded no church!

He didn't dictate the New Testament!

He didn't attend church on Sundays or Saturdays!

He didn't worship with songs plus dance and musical instruments!

Na someone else created Christianity and the church!

We go gist us the truth now?

AntiChristian:
Jesus founded no church!

He didn't dictate the New Testament!

He didn't attend church on Sundays or Saturdays!

He didn't worship with songs plus dance and musical instruments!

Na someone else created Christianity and the church!

We go gist us the truth now?

Okay, let's go.
Maybe we should start from
'Na someone else created Christianity and the church!'.

Can you please explain that first.

The church started when peter filled with the holy ghost single-handedly converted three thousand people and instructed them to start gathering every first day of the week. that's a day after the Jews were done worshipping their own God.
then the church was spread to various part of the world by those converts, then came paul who started writing letters to those churches warning them of the dangers of not obeying the Christ.
Then there were splinter groups like the Arians who claimed Jesus was married had a wife and children.
Then there were the Gnostics who claimed Jesus powers and miracles was learnt from Egypt and other places.
Other church leaders emerged after Peter and Paul and John, these joined the politics of the day and gradually began syncretizing other beliefs with Jesus's teachings.
Then came Constantine an emperor who declared Christianity state religion and continued the syncretism until you have what you now have.

Hanndye:

Okay, let's go.
Maybe we should start from
'Na someone else created Christianity and the church!'.

Can you please explain that first.

King james was the one that brought the word into the New Testament.
Correct translation is ekkelsia.
https://www.beinaberean.org/writings/church.html

Hanndye:
Jesus says in Matthew 16:18. 'And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.'

What is your take on this verse? What is the Church? Was it ever established and, if so, where is it today?

First question is whose church? Is it God's or Satan's or men?

AntiChristian:
Jesus founded no church!

He didn't dictate the New Testament!

He didn't attend church on Sundays or Saturdays!

He didn't worship with songs plus dance and musical instruments!

Na someone else created Christianity and the church!

We go gist us the truth now?

Mr. Muslim abeg stay your house.

Jesus went to temple on Saturday/Sabbath days. Worship and songs and preaching/teaching take place in the temple and if you were not a Muslim you would have known that

Dtruthspeaker:


First question is whose church? Is it God's or Satan's or men?

God's and His dear Son, Jesus Christ's.

Exmilitant:
The church started when peter filled with the holy ghost single-handedly converted three thousand people and instructed them to start gathering every first day of the week. that's a day after the Jews were done worshipping their own God.
then the church was spread to various part of the world by those converts, then came paul who started writing letters to those churches warning them of the dangers of not obeying the Christ.
Then there were splinter groups like the Arians who claimed Jesus was married had a wife and children.
Then there were the Gnostics who claimed Jesus powers and miracles was learnt from Egypt and other places.
Other church leaders emerged after Peter and Paul and John, these joined the politics of the day and gradually began syncretizing other beliefs with Jesus's teachings.
Then came Constantine an emperor who declared Christianity state religion and continued the syncretism until you have what you now have.

You know you are right by all these. But can we still find the true Church or do you think any random church will do?

mariovito:
There's no church in heaven or anywhere outside earth

Can you please explain.

AntiChristian:
Jesus founded no church!

He didn't dictate the New Testament!

He didn't attend church on Sundays or Saturdays!

He didn't worship with songs plus dance and musical instruments!

Na someone else created Christianity and the church!

We go gist us the truth now?

You have come again with your ignoramus presentation

Hanndye:

God's and His dear Son, Jesus Christ's.

Then, if it this church you are looking, in my opinion thier's started in Exidus 40 when the Temple of God and His priests were consecrated and they could carry out their charge as Commanded by God

Dtruthspeaker:


Then, if it this church you are looking, in my opinion thier's started in Exidus 40 when the Temple of God and His priests were consecrated and they could carry out their charge as Commanded by God

How would Just says He was going to build what had already been built?

Hanndye:

How would Just says He was going to build what had already been built?

Your question is not clear o.

Hanndye:
Jesus says in Matthew 16:18. 'And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.'

What is your take on this verse? What is the Church? Was it ever established and, if so, where is it today?

Surely, you do not believe that Peter is the Rock of God on which God's church is built?

As for when your own churches were built, it came in to play the moment the second beast spoken of in John's book of Revelations landed during the first century AD.

Dtruthspeaker:


Your question is not clear o.

Typo error, please. The the question is: How would Jesus say He was going to build what had already been built in Exidus 40.

Kobojunkie:
Surely, you do not believe that Peter is the Rock of God on which God's church is built?

As for when your own churches were built, it came in to play the moment the second beast spoken of in John's book of Revelations landed during the first century AD.

And what are the names of those churches?

Hanndye:
■ And what are the names of those churches?

Look on their signboard and business registration applications with the government for that information.

Kobojunkie:
Look on their signboard and business registration applications with the government for that information.

Ok, let just say you believe, and rightly so, that the Church was established on the Penticost Day, isn't it?

Hanndye:

Ok, let just say you believe, and rightly so, that the Church was established on the Penticost Day, isn't it?

The Church that Jesus Christ spoke of was established the moment He rose from the grave. However, the church of men which many of you are instead acquainted with was established when the false prophets and false teachers he warned of began their work.

Dtruthspeaker:


Mr. Muslim abeg stay your house.

Jesus went to temple on Saturday/Sabbath days. Worship and songs and preaching/teaching take place in the temple and if you were not a Muslim you would have known that

Where's the verse Jesus went to church on Sabbath, danced, clapped, sang and climbed the pulpit to preach?

Christian liar!

AntiChristian:


Where's the verse Jesus went to church on Sabbath, danced, clapped, sang and climbed the pulpit to preach?

Christian liar!

I said temple, not church, lying satanfilled Muslim. And in the temple, they danced, clapped, sang and worshipped God and preached.

Hanndye:

Typo error, please. The the question is: How would Jesus say He was going to build what had already been built in Exidus 40.

Did you not hear that it was destroyed? And that Jesus said He would raise up a temple (Himself) to be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth?

It is like you are a Muslim, hence these nonsense questions. Churchgoers even know these things.

Dtruthspeaker:


Did you not hear that it was destroyed? And that Jesus said He would raise up a temple (Himself) to be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth?

It is like you are a Muslim, hence these nonsense questions. Churchgoers even know these things.

You are sounding like you know a lot. But then I don't think people of the Bible worship temples, rather they worship IN temples. If not, that's a new one on me.
And am not a Muslim if you like to know.

Hanndye:

Okay, let's go.
Maybe we should start from
'Na someone else created Christianity and the church!'.

Can you please explain that first.

The creator of Christianity is Paul! That's why it's call paulanity or Pauline Christianity!

Someone who never met Jesus physically but claimed he was appointed by one light! This light appointed disciple went on to write more letters turned scriptures than all the physically appointed disciples of Jesus!

Na be juju be that!

AntiChristian:
■ The creator of Christianity is Paul! That's why it's call paulanity or Pauline Christianity!
Someone who never met Jesus physically but claimed he was appointed by one light! This light appointed disciple went on to write more letters turned scriptures than all the physically appointed disciples of Jesus!
Na be juju be that!

You are wrong! What happened to Paul was not juju as it happened to all sons and daughters in the Land at that time. God Himself made it happen as He said He would in the last days of His judgement against His Nation of Israel (and Judah).

Christianity was not established by Paul rather Paul's letters along with the letters of the other apostles were used by the false prophets and false teachers to build religions based on lies that are against Jesus Christ -- antichrist.

AntiChristian:


The creator of Christianity is Paul! That's why it's call paulanity or Pauline Christianity!

Someone who never met Jesus physically but claimed he was appointed by one light! This light appointed disciple went on to write more letters turned scriptures than all the physically appointed disciples of Jesus!

Na be juju be that!

Ok, given that Paul was a fake, what about the other Apostles?

Hanndye:
Jesus says in Matthew 16:18. 'And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.'

What is your take on this verse? What is the Church? Was it ever established and, if so, where is it today?

Ever read the book of Revelation. It has so many answers to so many questions, yet many christians are scared to read it. When in fact we are already in the apocalyptic times. (E.g more than 16 million people have died from Covid19 vaccines, Birthrate decline is at its highest globally since the rollout. Etc)

Revelation chapter 2-3 is Jesus warnings to the 7 Churches of Asia. And these have their angels.
So there is no One Church of Christ

•Revelation 21 shows us the apostles are the foundation of the New Jerusalem City.
•Peter is the leader of the Apostles as we are told in the book of Acts.
•Jesus also charged him to strengthen his brethren (the apostles).
•And charged him three times to feed his flock/sheep.

Contd.

Yes the church of Jesus is very well established. There are no names.

So you can only know a true Church by its fruits. As Jesus said "by their fruits you shall know them".
He and his apostles warned us to beware of false teachers who will come in his name. They are so many today.

Firstly, know the Bible doctrines inother to detect them. Example: Any church that teaches that other religions are a means to God is false (Pope Francis). Or that doesn't preach against iniquity and exhort righteousness Is false. (Even if they conduct miracle deliverance/healings)

The true Church is all believers who worship God in spirit and truth and sound doctrine regardless of Church registered names.

MrPRevailer:
■ Ever read the book of Revelation. It has so many answers to so many questions, yet many christians are scared to read it. When in fact we are already in the apocalyptic times. (E.g more than 16 million people have died from Covid19 vaccines, Birthrate decline is at its highest globally since the rollout. Etc)

Revelation chapter 2-3 is Jesus warnings to the 7 Churches of Asia. And these have their angels.
So there is no One Church of Christ

•Revelation 21 shows us the apostles are the foundation of the New Jerusalem City.
•Peter is the leader of the Apostles as we are told in the book of Acts.
•Jesus also charged him to strengthen his brethren (the apostles).
•And charged him three times to feed his flock/sheep.

Contd.

Covid 19 had absolutely nothing to do with biblical prophesy. Stop spinning these ridiculous tales!