MaxInDHouse:


Jeremiah 9:23-24

Ọmọ we can boast that we have the knowledge of God!

advocatejare:

MaxInDHouse over to you

MaxInDHouse:


Funny apostate!

Jesus had countless disciples but chose twelve apostles (all males) and none of them is a Samaritan (Northern ten tribes of Israel) rather they were all Jews (Southern three tribes of Israel)
Perhaps you never had that the same Jesus is the real founder of the group.
Ọmọ his own government is not your Democracy o, he chooses capable hands to lead his group.
So if you were alive in the first century and you happen to come from the Samaria you will never follow Jesus, shey?

Well he's still the same person with the known character! Hebrews 13:8

MaxInDHouse:
The post he quoted was for you but i'm not here to exchange words with him.

So read carefully.

Charles Taze Russell isn't the founder of the group that's why most of the things he knew in his days has been corrected by the founder himself: Jesus Christ.

Charles and many others who were making thorough research about how to IDENTIFY true Christianity were working with Jesus who was invisibly directing them to all the amendments they were making but it was a gradual process

So Jesus acknowledged him even though Russell as an imperfect human has limited knowledge of the truth but himself and most of his colleagues were willing to accept whatever correction the founder of Christianity is making!

preciousee17:

NO! That's not what I'm referring to at all.
I too boast in God for the things He taught me and I'm able to teach as well (I'm considered a teacher for the younger ones in a certain church)
It's almost normal.
The Pride I'm referring to here us the other foolish one:
1. You boast that JW has large numbers, forgetting that Islams are the fastest growing religion.
2. You boast that your teachings were so true that you were declared am extremist group by Russia, forgetting that China has seen one of the largest Christian persecution in history and they weren't JWs, check how bad theirs was
3. You boast that you preach from door to door of civilized people, forgetting that certain people preach in market places, looking tattered and very inferior
4. You boast that you are the only true Christians, cancelling others, forgetting that Jesus said you shouldn't judge with the eyes.

You know better, just name it, I'm not bothered about you trying to disprove my interpretation of the Bible with your knowledge.
I'm irritated you try to disprove people's interpretations with your actions and statistics.

preciousee17:


Someone said JWs are the most obedient... Here you are using cussword.

You think sounding intimidating is how to make a point in an argument?

They don't give a damn about religion? Or it's you the other way round?
They came calling your 'accaimed' founder an abuser and similar names...
You say they don't give a damn about religion.
See how you sound?

So if they truly came to abuse Russell, it means they came to condemn religion?
So Russell is a religion?
Russell is your religion?
You worship Russell?

Y'all are not making much sense, both parties.

MaxInDHouse:
Please i'm not responding to some people as they're not here to make any meaningful contributions.
©advocatejare
©Preciousee17

I'm still here o!

cornelboy:

Lol. Will God sentence me to hell for using f word? You're so innocent 🙂

preciousee17:

I see you. I think I related that I'm quite busy... But still around.
Your reply is coming.

MaxInDHouse:


Well if you will like to know we are obedient to those taking the lead among us! Hebrews 13:7, 17

That's what makes many people observed in us whereas all these people can't vouch for those taking the lead in their midst.

I really admired how you mentioned your church because that shows you're not ashamed of the officiating minister but you see these people they're disobedient to those leading their religions that's why they can't mention their religion.

preciousee17:

You see, it's quite the opposite. I trust you more than your leaders. You mean the ones with sex scandals? Hell nah!

preciousee17:

Okay, but I don't see how it helped. I think it only led to this argument that's leading to no where.
Why do you keep referring to their church as their religion? Is that some silent trolling cos it's pretty obvious now.
By the way, you've failed to comment on your brother using the f-word.

MaxInDHouse:


NO. You're mistaking!

All the religions in these world will quote God's word to back their doctrines that's why Jesus never say
"by their teachings"
Rather what he said is:
"by their FRUITS" Matthew 7:16-18

Note that the Judaists in Jesus' days said he's teaching heresy just as Jesus also said about them. That will make it really difficult for any neutral observer to know who is on God's side.

So instead of arguing on teachings the best way to solve the puzzle is by considering what they're able to achieve regarding God's will.

That's why Jesus said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will" Matthew 7:21

So what is God's will?
Which of all these religious groups is doing it today?

MaxInDHouse:


You're missing out a lot in my comments!

All what you're saying up there is like misconstruing everything i said.

Well let me set matters straight:

What i'm saying here is that there is a man called Jesus of Nazareth, he commissioned a group back in the first century and today the one and only group meeting up with what he foretold is Jehovah's Witnesses organization!

cornelboy:

Lol. Will God sentence me to hell for using f word?

You're so innocent 🙂

preciousee17:

No I'm not, don't force it. The first steps are to teach God's Words.
The Great Commission wasn't all about sending out disciples to go and bear fruits based on what they had learnt, it was about sending them to teach God's Words
Chinese monks so happen to live one of the best lives all-round, it doesn't mean that they are 'bearing fruits'

preciousee17:

Nope. They mainly attacked Him because He claimed to be Son of God. And because He taught against them. Check out the last trial where they didn't have substantial proof for all the acclaimed blasphemies.

preciousee17:

No I didn't miss anything, I'm not misconstruing.
I noticed the pattern — it noticed it well enough. On different threads.
The irony is that this Man told people to go teach the Gospel. But you just said that I shouldn't be too bothered about your teachings, I should check God's Will.

MaxInDHouse:


Now you're speaking like someone who is just following the crowd with malicious intent! Exodus 23:1-2
I am also one of those taking the lead in our local congregations but i'm talking about the Governing Body that's leading the organization globally.

Of course it really helps if not Jesus won't say "by their FRUITS you will know" Matthew 7:16

preciousee17:

I didn't say it should be a habit in every church to trust members more than the leaders.
I'm saying that to JW specifically.
Again I ask, Is it the leaders with the sex scandals? And I reply, Hell nah!

preciousee17:

Wait a second. Which one is more important?
The foundation or the building?
Between the words you teach and the character you show (based in the word you teach), which one could be referred to as the foundation and which one should be the main building?
I'd really be happy if you don't divert from this.

preciousee17:

Two people regularly organize charity.
Mr A: Does it while announcing that Satan is Lord
Mr B: Does it while announcing that Jesus is Lord.
Who do you think people should rather follow.
Again please be straightforward in answering this, no need for diversions.

MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmm it seems you need to calm down and read Jesus' own words at Matthew 7:15-20
Please do so carefully and try to assimilate.

False prophets will arise and they will definitely teach their own followers too but it's the result of their teachings in the midst of their followers Jesus says we should observe!

Now you should think about what that title "the son of God" means to the Jews.

Well it simply means someone that will teach them what God require of them but they're banking on the what they knew before Jesus came that's why it was really hard for them to accept him. Though the title God's son is not strange to them it's Jesus' authoritative teachings they detests!

MaxInDHouse:


OK which of all the religions claiming Christians today is teaching what Christ really taught?

Note that they're contradicting themselves!

preciousee17:

Honestly, that's what I think you guys are (anyone who preaches and adds jara or removes and twist things up)

preciousee17:

Ehm... It meant Son of God, don't try to force a definition. The Jews had a preconceived definition for 'Messiah' but not for Son of God.
Son of God meant Son of God, hence, God the Son.
That's what they couldn't just accept — that this Son of Joseph is now claiming to be Son of God — claiming to be God (Son of a Lion = Lion, Son of God = God).
So please don't try to force any definition here.
You're partly describing Messiah.

preciousee17:

A good question.
I'm sure you saw my quote where I implied that many men of 'God' need to be attacked as well.Instead of focusing on how many people teach Christ's teachings, I focused on so many that taught and added falseness.
I've seen a whole lot, that's where JW comes in.
Cos I wasn't really interested in learning about every church and classifying them as friend or foe, rather, I was listening and noting falseness wherever I see it, JW isn't special in my list or anything. I've seen worse Churches.

MaxInDHouse:

Please speak for your own religion among us it's a DISFELLOWSHIP offence!
That's why we OBEY those taking the lead in our midst.

You think you know better than Jesus who said it's by their FRUITS shey?

So who is saying Satan is Lord?

preciousee17:


I thought you disappeared?
Actually, I ended arguments with you long ago.
Max manages, I'd rather you stop making things worse for him.

I'm saying you use the f-word, look at your reply as the only true Christian! SMH.

The funniest part is that you can't even answer the main things I addressed in my quote.

preciousee17:

These are the kind of things I was waiting to hear — that you're more focused on obeying what the leaders say, than what is logical in a given setting.

preciousee17:

Sorry, but now it's not the time to victimize me. I'm leaving by 9:30 anyways so let me drop all I can till then.

Now, Jesus said many things.
1. By their fruits you shall know them
2. If the foundation be destroyed, what can the righteous do.

You're emphasizing point 1, I'm emphasizing point 2.
Let me vindicate myself by blending both points:
Isn't the foundation not equal to root of the tree?
Won't an affected foundation bring a mutilated fruit?
Just like I pointed in the example I knew you'd want to avoid

preciousee17:

Remember: you guys are not saying Jesus is Lord either.
See exactly why I made it this obvious, so you'll not skip, I'm not saying the examples represent any one. I'm just trying to avoid confusion by making it clear:

Two people regularly organize charity.
Mr A: Does it while announcing that Satan is Lord
Mr B: Does it while announcing that Jesus is Lord.
Who do you think people should rather follow.
Again please be straightforward in answering this, no need for diversions.

MaxInDHouse:


Don't conclude yet!

Innocent people will be really interested in the founder of Christianity: Jesus Christ

What he said about how to IDENTIFY his group and the religion that's meeting up with what he said today!

MaxInDHouse:

Which church is not twisting God's word?
And why so many contradictions?

Ọmọ God called Israel His firstborn son o! Exodus 4:22

So it's not something strange to them!

cornelboy:

Oh yeah.

What I was implying is that she doesn't know the Bible the people on this thread. None of them takes religion seriously and they are always out slandering other's religion.

MaxInDHouse:

Well if you're not obedient to those taking the lead in your religion we do according to what apostle Paul told us {Hebrews 13:7, 17} that's what the other person meant saying Jehovah's Witnesses are OBEDIENT.


So we hold onto the fruit Sir! Matthew 7:16-18

Revisit that post and think of this: your reply hasn't corresponded well.
I just said that a faulty root brings up mutilated fruits and you're still saying we should hold on to the fruit? Instead of checking the root first? SMH. I'm done sha. I sit back to watch what's flying around. (I actually need to prepare to tomorrow)




So if i've been quoting Jesus all these while as the commander whose words we're acting upon you don't know that means we're revering him as Lord shey?