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Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Babalegba(m): 2:53pm On Mar 28
The Erisco versus Chioma case is beginning to make nigeria look like a banana republic.l hope that the authorities would wade into the matter and stop the law being misused
https://metro.co.uk/2024/03/28/woman-faces-7-years-jail-saying-tomato-puree-sweet-20544809/?ico=top-stories_home_top
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by 123456789O: 3:14pm On Mar 28
That man should continue hurting his business
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 5:05pm On Mar 28
Just say 2 Igbos.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 5:10pm On Mar 28
123456789O:
That man should continue hurting his business
Why is everyone hiding the post this woman made that Erisco is killing people and the killings should stop? She was asked to apologize which she did, only to go back online that the apologies was under duress, that she didn't apologize and continued talking rubbish. Since she's standing on her words, let her show the proof of killings despite her saying she's buying the product for a first time.

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Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by 123456789O: 5:21pm On Mar 28
Pepperdemisback:

Why is everyone hiding the post this woman made that Erisco is killing people and the killings should stop? She was asked to apologize which she did, only to go back online that the apologies was under duress, that she didn't apologize and continued talking rubbish. Since she's standing on her words, let her show the proof of killings despite her saying she's buying the product for a first time.

When did "ki***ing" become "killing"? Show me the dictionary

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Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Babalegba(m): 7:41pm On Mar 28
Pepperdemisback:

Why is everyone hiding the post this woman made that Erisco is killing people and the killings should stop? She was asked to apologize which she did, only to go back online that the apologies was under duress, that she didn't apologize and continued talking rubbish. Since she's standing on her words, let her show the proof of killings despite her saying she's buying the product for a first time.
I don't think most people are involved because of the review.Its the bullying, harassment and intimidation aspect of the case that is the main crux of the matter.
He should not have got the igp to arrest her and get her to Abuja just to intimidate her.
If the chief constable of England were to try that,he would have been sacked without benefits within three days. Money should not make us behave like zoo dwellers.
I told the cook that did my Christmas cooking not to bring any erisco product into my house and she complied.
I'm not happy hurting the man's business especially now that we all want to encourage local manufacturers and limit fx expenses but the bullying has to stop.

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Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Babalegba(m): 7:58pm On Mar 28
Pepperdemisback:
Just say 2 Igbos.
This should not be seen as a tribal thing but as a movement to stop the law and the police being misused against the masses.
All nigerians should participate.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 1:50pm On Mar 29
Babalegba:
This should not be seen as a tribal thing but as a movement to stop the law and the police being misused against the masses.
All nigerians should participate.
Participate in what? Why are they hiding the posts that the woman made that the tomato paste has being killing people and the owner should stop the killings already? She claimed she was buying the product for the first time. She boasted she has successfully destroyed the man's business too. People caution her that she should have called the Customer care instead of running down somebody's business. She was asked to write an apology but came back online that it was written under duress, that she won't apologize. So, let her face the consequences of her diarrhea mouth and Chest beating.

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Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 1:56pm On Mar 29
Babalegba:
I don't think most people are involved because of the review.Its the bullying, harassment and intimidation aspect of the case that is the main crux of the matter.
He should not have got the igp to arrest her and get her to Abuja just to intimidate her.
If the chief constable of England were to try that,he would have been sacked without benefits within three days. Money should not make us behave like zoo dwellers.
I told the cook that did my Christmas cooking not to bring any erisco product into my house and she complied.
I'm not happy hurting the man's business especially now that we all want to encourage local manufacturers and limit fx expenses but the bullying has to stop.
Soldier go, Soldier come, Army Barracks remains. An average Nigerian buys available and cheapest product but not look for names. If his tomato paste is cheaper than others, an average Nigerian will still prefer him. If she had stopped after the apology, all these wouldn't have taken place. She's a normal loose mouth so she should face the consequences.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 1:59pm On Mar 29
123456789O:


When did "ki***ing" become "killing"? Show me the dictionary
Chest beating gone wrong, ask her for the meaning, sure she will deny. They will run mouth but still be crying victim.

And you, was is the meaning of ki***lings?
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by 123456789O: 3:22pm On Mar 29
Pepperdemisback:

Chest beating gone wrong, ask her for the meaning, sure she will deny. They will run mouth but still be crying victim.

And you, was is the meaning of ki***lings?

In court, you don't prove a case based on ASSUMPTIONS. It has to be beyond reasonable doubt. According to a legal maxim by Sir William Blackstone, β€œIt is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

That's because the law is very STRICT and CARES about evidence that'll leave no room for doubt. That's why your EFCC is finding it difficult to send allegedly corrupt politicians to jail. You have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

Erisco will have to prove that. Unfortunately, "stop kidding people with your product" makes as much sense as the verb you chose. "Kidding" also means "to deceive". See definition at screenshot. Note, that's just me speculating, like you.

If you don't understand the meaning of a word, the best thing is to ask the writer for clarity rather than giving it any meaning you like. No court will jail anyone using such an ambiguous word in a criminal case. Erisco is wasting his time.

Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Firingpin: 7:57pm On Mar 29
Pepperdemisback:

Participate in what? Why are they hiding the posts that the woman made that the tomato paste has being killing people and the owner should stop the killings already? She claimed she was buying the product for the first time. She boasted she has successfully destroyed the man's business too. People caution her that she should have called the Customer care instead of running down somebody's business. She was asked to write an apology but came back online that it was written under duress, that she won't apologize. So, let her face the consequences of her diarrhea mouth and Chest beating.
I think most people are concerned about the bullying aspect of the case and the fact that the IGP personally got involved in the case.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 8:17pm On Mar 29
Firingpin:
I think most people are concerned about the bullying aspect of the case and the fact that the IGP personally got involved in the case.
Why are they concerned about the bullying but unconcerned about the nosedive of someone's 40 year old business? Just imagine someone boasting she has destroyed your means of living, what does she stand to gain? People even corrected her that she should have called Customer Care first, No! She continued. Now playing victim card.
Nigerians are hypocritical, when KFC was shut for bullying OGD's physically challenge son, same said it is because he is a rich man's son. They claimed people will lose their job but they are online praising this woman and asking people to boycott the product as if it will not affect some people's jobs
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 8:30pm On Mar 29
123456789O:


In court, you don't prove a case based on ASSUMPTIONS. It has to be beyond reasonable doubt. According to a legal maxim by Sir William Blackstone, β€œIt is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

That's because the law is very STRICT and CARES about evidence that'll leave no room for doubt. That's why your EFCC is finding it difficult to send allegedly corrupt politicians to jail. You have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

Erisco will have to prove that. Unfortunately, "stop kidding people with your product" makes as much sense as the verb you chose. "Kidding" also means "to deceive". See definition at screenshot. Note, that's just me speculating, like you.

If you don't understand the meaning of a word, the best thing is to ask the writer for clarity rather than giving it any meaning you like. No court will jail anyone using such an ambiguous word in a criminal case. Erisco is wasting his time.
Stop beating about the bush or trying to hit below the belt. Kidding with people's health? Ok!
Tell the diarrhea mouth chest beater to say it by herself. What about boasting she has successfully destroyed the man's business?
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by 123456789O: 9:18pm On Mar 29
Pepperdemisback:

Stop beating about the bush or trying to hit below the belt. Kidding with people's health? Ok!
Tell the diarrhea mouth chest beater to say it by herself. What about boasting she has successfully destroyed the man's business?

Lol, it's Eric that'll proof that. Lol
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 11:19pm On Mar 29
123456789O:


Lol, it's Eric that'll proof that. Lol
He said it already with proof.
Read this comment well. A lot of people have done same. He is hurting the man's business deliberately and knows.

Below is another one on Facebook confirming from her if they should spoil the man's business and she's boasting she has spoilt his business already.

Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by 123456789O: 12:10am On Mar 30
Pepperdemisback:

He said it already with proof.
Read this comment well. A lot of people have done same. He is hurting the man's business deliberately and knows.

Below is another one on Facebook confirming from her if they should spoil the man's business and she's boasting she has spoilt his business already.

You still haven't shown prove where she said "killing"... If you're referring to "ki***ing", please go back and reread my post, I don't want to repeat the post. That's the only part that got the police involved. If he fails to prove beyond reasonable doubt, then he should be prepared because Chioma has counter-sued him.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Waterysperm: 2:53am On Mar 30
She should go to jail biko. I want to see her serve 7 years in prison with hard labour. She will get sense when she comes out.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Firingpin: 6:09pm On Mar 30
Waterysperm:
She should go to jail biko. I want to see her serve 7 years in prison with hard labour. She will get sense when she comes out.
Her going to jail would damage Nigerias international reputation and erisco s reputation as well because the IGP got involved.
You have to understand that westerners are far more civilized than nigerians and look at things in a more rational and less primitive way.
They love a David and Goliath story and trust me,they don't support Goliath.They would turn Chioma into a cause celebre and Nigeria would look like a corrupt, brutal country that victimizes women.
I was reading an article in the office in London one year. It was about some arrested people who got freed after spending years in prison without conviction. My colleague,an English man saw the article and laughed for three whole minutes then phoned his girlfriend to tell her that people could spend ten years in jail in Nigeria without conviction.
She then started looking at me the way you look at a monkey in a suit. Very embarrassing.
Nobody is going to win this case.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 8:25pm On Mar 30
123456789O:


You still haven't shown prove where she said "killing"... If you're referring to "ki***ing", please go back and reread my post, I don't want to repeat the post. That's the only part that got the police involved. If he fails to prove beyond reasonable doubt, then he should be prepared because Chioma has counter-sued him.


Go and defend her. Let's see how how it ends. From chest beating to denial and victim card. Typical of them.
Abeg!
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Pepperdemisback: 8:38pm On Mar 30
Firingpin:
Her going to jail would damage Nigerias international reputation and erisco s reputation as well because the IGP got involved.
You have to understand that westerners are far more civilized than nigerians and look at things in a more rational and less primitive way.
They love a David and Goliath story and trust me,they don't support Goliath.They would turn Chioma into a cause celebre and Nigeria would look like a corrupt, brutal country that victimizes women.
I was reading an article in the office in London one year. It was about some arrested people who got freed after spending years in prison without conviction. My colleague,an English man saw the article and laughed for three whole minutes then phoned his girlfriend to tell her that people could spend ten years in jail in Nigeria without conviction.
She then started looking at me the way you look at a monkey in a suit. Very embarrassing.
Nobody is going to win this case.
Did this damage American reputation? Please show this to your so called friend so he could laugh more. What did they investigate before jailing him? Go and read well, the victim even insisted for a whole 20 years that he wasn't the rapist.
America is even the worst place such things happen due to racism.

https://www.google.com/search?q=man+jailed+in+the+usfor+crime+he+didn%27t+commit&oq=man+jailed+in+the+usfor+crime+he+didn%27t+commit+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAHSAQkzODk0NGowajeoAhSwAgE&client=ms-android-transsion&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/05/09/us/patrick-brown-wrongful-conviction-vacated-new-orleans

Chioma is a nobody but trying to form James Bond because of Public Support just like The Jamb girl. She will not write Jamb for 3 years because she press charges even when she knew she was doing something wrong. The penalty was supposed to be the cancellation of results.
Chioma is a nobody and the person he is dealing with is highly connected.
When people donate different custume to a masquerade, when it is time to dance, only him will bear the whole load.
Let's see how it goes. A public apology is what they asked for, she did it and came back online boasting that it was under duress and the apology is withdrawn. Then boasted she has successfully destroyed the man's 40 years business. Let her continue with the James Bond and let's see who wins.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by MurderX: 8:51pm On Mar 30
Pepperdemisback:

Participate in what? Why are they hiding the posts that the woman made that the tomato paste has being killing people and the owner should stop the killings already? She claimed she was buying the product for the first time. She boasted she has successfully destroyed the man's business too. People caution her that she should have called the Customer care instead of running down somebody's business. She was asked to write an apology but came back online that it was written under duress, that she won't apologize. So, let her face the consequences of her diarrhea mouth and Chest beating.
Let her dance to the tune of her music. Silly girl
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by 123456789O: 9:57pm On Mar 30
Pepperdemisback:

Go and defend her. Let's see how how it ends. From chest beating to denial and victim card. Typical of them.
Abeg!

Lol, is that all you gat to say? πŸ˜‚
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by akyus(m): 1:40pm On Mar 31
Babalegba:
The Erisco versus Chioma case is beginning to make nigeria look like a banana republic.l hope that the authorities would wade into the matter and stop the law being misused
https://metro.co.uk/2024/03/28/woman-faces-7-years-jail-saying-tomato-puree-sweet-20544809/?ico=top-stories_home_top
Who cares, the disgrace can go beyond Britain. No be today.
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Firingpin: 1:39am On Apr 01
akyus:
Who cares, the disgrace can go beyond Britain. No be today.
Nigerians living abroad would care because respect for them could diminish
Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by ivolt: 6:51am On Apr 01
Babalegba:
I don't think most people are involved because of the review.Its the bullying, harassment and intimidation aspect of the case that is the main crux of the matter.
He should not have got the igp to arrest her and get her to Abuja just to intimidate her.
If the chief constable of England were to try that,he would have been sacked without benefits within three days. Money should not make us behave like zoo dwellers.
I told the cook that did my Christmas cooking not to bring any erisco product into my house and she complied.
I'm not happy hurting the man's business especially now that we all want to encourage local manufacturers and limit fx expenses but the bullying has to stop.
When this type of case comes up. The most important question whether a law has been broken. Not sentiment not morality, but a matter of legality.

If the man had used his police connection to arrest an arsonist or a product counterfeiter,
would you people have complained?
Of course, not, in fact, he would be seen as a hero.
In a working system, Erisco would not need police connection to get Chioma prosecuted.

I searched for the illegality on the police part in your post but I didn't see.
Also, I checked your post for the specific harassment Chioma suffers but you didn't mention it too.
I supposed you think flying a suspect to Abuja, questioning her and detaining her is intimidation and harassment.
No, it isn't. Not in Nigeria.
Many suspects undergo the same regularly without it making the news and even when it does, nobody cares.


Binance executives were recently detained using unethical ploys. Nobody complained because they did something wrong.
But this is civil case you argue, it isn't according to the Nigerian law, there is something called criminal defamation and more recently the anti-cyberstalking law.
When this law was being debated, it got widespread support because people wants consequence
for fake news and online harassment. Those who raised objections were mocked as troublemakers and bigots who hates the then government.

By the way, Nigeria does not exist for other countries pleasure.
And in your darling UK, insulting a fellow brit online can get you 5 years jail time.
Something that is unheard of even in Banana republics.

If you want more civility in the legal system, you have to work for it. And more importantly, always write against such treatment even when the suspect is a "bad" person and not an online celebrity reviewer.

Personally, I prefer the US system where people can say what they like but face the possibility of being sued for every dime they have ever earned.

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Re: Erisco And Chioma Case Disgraces Nigeria In Britain by Babalegba(m): 6:41pm On Apr 01
ivolt:

When this type of case comes up. The most important question whether a law has been broken. Not sentiment not morality, but a matter of legality.

If the man had used his police connection to arrest an arsonist or a product counterfeiter,
would you people have complained?
Of course, not, in fact, he would be seen as a hero.
In a working system, Erisco would not need police connection to get Chioma prosecuted.

I searched for the illegality on the police part in your post but I didn't see.
Also, I checked your post for the specific harassment Chioma suffers but you didn't mention it too.
I supposed you think flying a suspect to Abuja, questioning her and detaining her is intimidation and harassment.
No, it isn't. Not in Nigeria.
Many suspects undergo the same regularly without it making the news and even when it does, nobody cares.


Binance executives were recently detained using unethical ploys. Nobody complained because they did something wrong.
But this is civil case you argue, it isn't according to the Nigerian law, there is something called criminal defamation and more recently the anti-cyberstalking law.
When this law was being debated, it got widespread support because people wants consequence
for fake news and online harassment. Those who raised objections were mocked as troublemakers and bigots who hates the then government.

By the way, Nigeria does not exist for other countries pleasure.
And in your darling UK, insulting a fellow brit online can get you 5 years jail time.
Something that is unheard of even in Banana republics.

If you want more civility in the legal system, you have to work for it. And more importantly, always write against such treatment even when the suspect is a "bad" person and not an online celebrity reviewer.

Personally, I prefer the US system where people can say what they like but face the possibility of being sued for every dime they have ever earned.
I've not heard of anybody in Britain being jailed for five years for insulting someone online. I think you are referring to the theoretical maximum sentence on the statutory books but that is almost never implemented.
Anyway back to Nigeria and the David and Goliath case of erisco versus Chioma, both sides are firmly entrenched in their position. A guilty verdict in Nigeria will not be the end of the case,in fact it will be the beginning because like me many people are tired of nigerian law being subjected to the will of money. More people in Nigeria and abroad would get involved at that point.

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