santaclaws:


He's an Edo indigene please. Yoruba first names are scattered all over Niger delta (Ijaw, Itsekiri etc) but they're not Yorubas.

Edo indegene is not a tribe , what tribe is he in Edo ?
The itsekiri and ijaw you mentioned, don't they bear the name as a result of their closeness to Yoruba land ? for instance itsekiri is yoruboid, ijaw indegenes are in Ondo state.....

So who is he , his tribe , what tribe or tribes are akoko edo people?


DenreleDave

aikyg:

Edo was part of the old Western Region while the rest of South South was part of the old Eastern Region.

Edo and Delta were part of old Western region.

Jogs1900

santaclaws:


He's an Edo indigene that's all I know.

I don't know the history of Akoko Edo, but we have "Akoko" all over Ondo state as well, so I get the cultural similarity. But when it's all said and done, he's an Edo indigene and that's all that matters.

Edo is a state with many tribes , so it's illiteracy when you take state (Edo) to be tribe ? A state is different from a tribe ? the question is which of the tribes in Edo state? Akoko edo people, what tribe(s) are they ? are there no youba there?


Elliotwaveforec

garfield1:


Are yorubas indigenous to akoko

Yes akoko in Ondo state are Yoruba people

In Edo state.
With their sharing boundaries with Ondo , then it's normal that some of them will be yoruboid indegenously if not outright Yoruba.

donphilopus

Stop fooling yourself, Oduduwa was not a Bini man! How could you people say that he was from Benin, yet he did not introduce a single Bini word or culture to the Yoruba people of Ile Ife? Oduduwa knew where he came from; far East, somewhere around today's Middle East. There are many archaeological pieces of evidence to back this up. A trip to Ile Ife in Osun State will clear whatever doubt you're having in your ill-informed mind. The ancient occupants of Jerusalem, Egypt, and other parts of the Middle East were actually Black people; various archaeological excavations, artistic works, and designs have proven that already.

Do you think it is a mere coincidence that the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic inscriptions are found in some sacred places in Ile Ife and even inside the sacred forest of Osun Osogbo groove? If truly Oduduwa was "a Benin Prince" as you Binis want the whole world to believe, how come he did not introduce his native Bini language to the people of Ile Ife, but instead introduced a language that was the same as the one being spoken by the Kemets - ancient Egyptians?! This is why today, there are a lot of similarities between Yoruba culture and ancient Egyptian culture. These similarities are quite visible in the habits, manners, customs, and other cultural aspects of both Yoruba and ancient Kemets - the original owners of the Middle East. Please note that the Yoruba language being spoken today is quite different from the one being spoken by the Yoruba people of Ile-Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa.

Now, check some of the similarities:

Ancient Egypt : Yoruba:

Wu (Rise) - Wu (Rise)
Ere (Python) - Ere (Python)
Horise (a great god) - Orise (a great god)
Ged (to chant) - Igede/Ogede (chant)
Sueq (a fool) - Suegbe (a fool)
Ta (sell) -. Ta (sell or offer)
Enru (fear) - Eru (fear)
Kun or gun (brave) - Ekun (brave)
Ma or mi (to breathe) - Mi (to breathe)

Khu (to kill) - Ku (die)
Hika (evil) -. Ika (evil)
Edjo (cobra) - Ejo (snakes)
Horiwo (head) - Oriwo (head)
AK (male) - Ako (male)
Mu (water) - Mu (drink water)
Do (river) - Odo (river)
Aru (mouth) - Arun (mouth) (Ilaje dialect)
Ash (invocation) - Ase (invocation)
Po (many) - Po (many/cheap)
Budo (dwelling place) - Bu do (dwelling place)

These linguistic resemblances further support the notion that Yoruba words bear similarities to ancient Egyptian words and provide further support for the historical and cultural connections between the Yoruba people and ancient Egyptians, among whom Oduduwa came to Ile Ife. In terms of artistic standards, both the Yoruba and ancient Egyptians demonstrate a high level of technical expertise and a sophisticated understanding of aesthetics. Both civilizations valued the representation of the human form, striving for accuracy and symbolism in their artistic creations. Moreover, both cultures employed art as a means of expressing religious beliefs, with sculptures and paintings serving as conduits for spiritual worship and storytelling.

Now ask yourself, how come we are not comparing all these similarities between Yoruba and Bini people today if truly Oduduwa was "a lost Prince from Benin" or something?! That can't happen because Oduduwa was never a Bini man; he neither spoke the language nor understood Bini culture. Isn't it odd that it is Yoruba culture today that has a great influence over Bini people - from Yoruba deities to Yoruba names, language, etc., are quite visible in Benin? I grew up in Benin in the early '80s; number 11, Yoruba street, Iyaro, and Lawani street as well. Then, there was not even a controversy about the "Yorubaness" of the Oba of Benin; it was common knowledge. It is only today that the Binis are so desperate to erase the fact that their Oba is of Yoruba descent.

Oduduwa was NEVER a Bini man; there is no single archaeological evidence to back it up, but there is numerous proof to show that he was an ancient Egyptian from today's Middle East. Oduduwa influenced Yoruba people very greatly with his ancient ancient Egyptian's culture,which is quite visible even till today. If he was a Bini man,he would have done same thing but he wasn't!

Cc: Zeezenho

Theoarhics:


Edo is the only state that the true representation of the major tribes in Nigeria, when you them bearing Igbo names, Yoruba and hausa names it doesn't mean they are hausa or Yoruba , they are pure Edo people . Edo is diversified state and very unique.

KOGI is also outstanding in having names from the major tribes courtesy their location mid - Nigeria.

The ones who bear Hausa are not really Hausa names but Muslim names are in Edo North boundary with KOGI , others have Yoruba link e.g akoko edo people by extension itsekiri among them and those in delta including olukumi , they dont bear the names by accident , those names come as a result of historical and cultural link.... So if you go to akoko edo in Edo , olukumi area ( now infiltrated by igboid people) in delta and itsekiri, common Yoruba names there is not by accident, it's because they are yoruboid in origin and nature.

" Pure Edo people " which tribe that's the question.

efogie

seunmsg

ednut1:
yoruba name does not mean that they speak or hear yoruba.

But it speaks to ancestry or originality at least.

Christlike01:
Stop fooling yourself, Oduduwa was not a Bini man! How could you people say that he was from Benin, yet he did not introduce a single Bini word or culture to the Yoruba people of Ile Ife? Oduduwa knew where he came from; far East, somewhere around today's Middle East. There are many archaeological pieces of evidence to back this up. A trip to Ile Ife in Osun State will clear whatever doubt you're having in your ill-informed mind. The ancient occupants of Jerusalem, Egypt, and other parts of the Middle East were actually Black people; various archaeological excavations, artistic works, and designs have proven that already.

Do you think it is a mere coincidence that the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic inscriptions are found in some sacred places in Ile Ife and even inside the sacred forest of Osun Osogbo groove? If truly Oduduwa was "a Benin Prince" as you Binis want the whole world to believe, how come he did not introduce his native Bini language to the people of Ile Ife, but instead introduced a language that was the same as the one being spoken by the Kemets - ancient Egyptians?! This is why today, there are a lot of similarities between Yoruba culture and ancient Egyptian culture. These similarities are quite visible in the habits, manners, customs, and other cultural aspects of both Yoruba and ancient Kemets - the original owners of the Middle East. Please note that the Yoruba language being spoken today is quite different from the one being spoken by the Yoruba people of Ile-Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa.

Now, check some of the similarities:

Ancient Egypt : Yoruba:

Wu (Rise) - Wu (Rise)
Ere (Python) - Ere (Python)
Horise (a great god) - Orise (a great god)
Ged (to chant) - Igede/Ogede (chant)
Sueq (a fool) - Suegbe (a fool)
Ta (sell) -. Ta (sell or offer)
Enru (fear) - Eru (fear)
Kun or gun (brave) - Ekun (brave)
Ma or mi (to breathe) - Mi (to breathe)

Khu (to kill) - Ku (die)
Hika (evil) -. Ika (evil)
Edjo (cobra) - Ejo (snakes)
Horiwo (head) - Oriwo (head)
AK (male) - Ako (male)
Mu (water) - Mu (drink water)
Do (river) - Odo (river)
Aru (mouth) - Arun (mouth) (Ilaje dialect)
Ash (invocation) - Ase (invocation)
Po (many) - Po (many/cheap)
Budo (dwelling place) - Bu do (dwelling place)

These linguistic resemblances further support the notion that Yoruba words bear similarities to ancient Egyptian words and provide further support for the historical and cultural connections between the Yoruba people and ancient Egyptians, among whom Oduduwa came to Ile Ife. In terms of artistic standards, both the Yoruba and ancient Egyptians demonstrate a high level of technical expertise and a sophisticated understanding of aesthetics. Both civilizations valued the representation of the human form, striving for accuracy and symbolism in their artistic creations. Moreover, both cultures employed art as a means of expressing religious beliefs, with sculptures and paintings serving as conduits for spiritual worship and storytelling.

Now ask yourself, how come we are not comparing all these similarities between Yoruba and Bini people today if truly Oduduwa was "a lost Prince from Benin" or something?! That can't happen because Oduduwa was never a Bini man; he neither spoke the language nor understood Bini culture. Isn't it odd that it is Yoruba culture today that has a great influence over Bini people - from Yoruba deities to Yoruba names, language, etc., are quite visible in Benin? I grew up in Benin in the early '80s; number 11, Yoruba street, Iyaro, and Lawani street as well. Then, there was not even a controversy about the "Yorubaness" of the Oba of Benin; it was common knowledge. It is only today that the Binis are so desperate to erase the fact that their Oba is of Yoruba descent.

Oduduwa was NEVER a Bini man; there is no single archaeological evidence to back it up, but there is numerous proof to show that he was an ancient Egyptian from today's Middle East. Oduduwa influenced Yoruba people very greatly with his ancient ancient Egyptian's culture,which is quite visible even till today. If he was a Bini man,he would have done same thing but he wasn't!

Cc: Zeezenho

Oduduwa didn't come from Bini na. Oduduwa, the king came from Oke Ora. His great grandson Oranmiyan became the king of Bini. His entourages & kins founded other towns in Edo. Anyways, Oduduwa the king came from Oke Ora.

However, Yoruba themselves could have probably come from Egypt. Hence why I sometimes stated that the Yoruba could have departed from the Hebrew while the Hebrew were still in Egypt, considering the Yorubas have similar names for God as the Hebrew/Isrealites. I mean Moses left too until he was asked to go lead out the other Isrealites. So either that or the Yoruba are ancient people.

donphilopus:


Can you mention at least one community in Akoko Edo that's Yoruba? Just one please. I'm from Akoko Edo and I'm telling you what I know. We are close to the Yorubas but no community in the whole of Akoko Edo is indigenous Yoruba.

What are you and what tribes are there in akoko edo ?and I will intellectually discuss this and make a point.

DeLaRue

Paraman:
in fact, ijaws in Ondo state are landlock.

.

yinkabeauty:



Ese Odo is a Local Government Area in Ondo State, Nigeria, populated by the Ijaw (Izon) ethnic sub groups of the Western Apoi tribe and the Arogbo tribe. Its headquarters are in the town of Igbekebo. The biggest towns within this Local Government Area are Arogbo, Igbobini, Agadagba-Obon, and Igbekebo.

Some of their settlements are coastal.

Really? Can you kindly list out the names of the coastal Ijaw towns in Ondo state?

Paraman:
Really? Can you kindly list out the names of the coastal Ijaw towns in Ondo state?

Yes , ese odo is landlocked.

yinkabeauty:


For the sake of time because of my engagement, ese odo as a local government, isn't it coastal?

Ese Odo local government is landlock.

Dsimmer:


It's a known fact that Oduduwa didn't come from Bini na. Oduduwa, the king came from Oke Ora. His great grandson Oranmiyan became the king of Bini. His entourages & kins founded other towns in Edo. Anyways, Oduduwa the king came from Oke Ora.

However, Yoruba themselves could have probably come from Egypt. Hence why I sometimes stated that the Yoruba could have departed from the Hebrew while the Hebrew were still in Egypt, considering the Yorubas have similar names for God as the Hebrew/Isrealites. I mean Moses left too until he was asked to go lead out the other Isrealites. So either that or the Yoruba are ancient people.

Wao.sudenly yorubas are now Israelites and Hebrew.is God not wonderful no wonder when ever igbos tell there history of migrating from Israel Yoruba's will go all bitter .

Well in school they thought us that oduduwa fell from heaven which simple means he is a falling angel ancient people call people like him DEMON while modern people call them alien .

Well all my life I have always beloved oduduwa was a demon especially when it hard of yoruba demon and their relationship with skull mining. Till a bini man cleared me that he came from bini I belived him because oduduwa itself n a bini name not yoruba .

Paraman:
Ese Odo local government is landlock.

Yes, it's landlocked and surprisingly so , llaje tribe/ local government's portion of the land extends to the Atlantic Ocean pushing (perhaps via domination) Ese odo inward ( although this portion is connected to Delta State) .

yinkabeauty:


Yes, it's landlocked and surprisingly so , llaje tribe/ local government's portion of the land extends to the Atlantic Ocean pushing (perhaps via domination) Ese odo inward ( although this portion is connected to Delta State) .

So you dont know they are landlock before sef, you're just guessing they are not landlock.

What do you mean by this Ese odo inward ( although this portion is connected to Delta State)

Zeezenho:


Wao.sudenly yorubas are now Israelites and Hebrew.is God not wonderful no wonder when ever igbos tell there history of migrating from Israel Yoruba's will go all bitter .

Well in school they thought us that oduduwa fell from heaven which simple means he is a falling angel ancient people call people like him DEMON while modern people call them alien .

Well all my life I have always beloved oduduwa was a demon especially when it hard of yoruba demon and their relationship with skull mining. Till a bini man cleared me that he came from bini I belived him because oduduwa itself n a bini name not yoruba .

Ode. The fact that Yoruba doesn't like saying much about being Isrealites/Hebrews, compared to the Igbo who liked wailing, even though Igbo has nothing to lay claim on, however there are several things that tie the Yoruba to the Hebrew such as some similar arts like the Solomon knot used for royalties, the two crossroads sign representing the law etc. Also some similar cultures such as making the second twin the elder of the twins. Also Some similar words which means the same thing such as aye (haya) which means life, alive or I exist, aanu (Hannah) which means mercy/favor, Orun (Arun) which means height, Ori (Rosh) which means head etc. Also, the similar names for God such as Oluwa (Elowah), Olohun/Olorun (Elohim), Ela (Elah), Eledumare/Olodumare (El' mareh). The similar belief in a messiah (Ela) born of a virgin woman.

I mean there are several similarities which Yoruba have got in connection with the Hebrews while the Hebrews were still in Egypt. While Yoruba believe they're ancient people which may also be true, considering the ancient language.

And yes, Oduduwa who's the first black creation progenitor fell from the sky while Oduduwa the king came from Oke Ora. If you don't like it, go and knack your head on a rock.

Paraman:
It's good you have also made research on the issue. You don't want to agree the ijaws in Ondo state are landlock before.

What do you mean by this Ese odo inward ( although this portion is connected to Delta State)

Yes , I am the kind who don't just like to broadcast false information, you knew I was not affirmative, I only asked , if ese odo was not coastal , because I was expecting ijaw people to mount the extreme coastal region of the state, because of their coastal nature.

What I mean: (ese odo inward) , Ese odo is sitting on ilaje local government while ilaje is at the bottom at the coast, i.e ese odo is inward off the coast /off shore.

My speculation is Ijaw would have occupied the extreme coastal region originally but were fought , pushed inward and reduced to ese odo local government which is inward and offshore comparatively to ilaje local government.

Connected to Delta State ; if you check the map that eastern end of ese odo ( although along with ilaje local government) is linked to Delta State, you know there are Ijaw in Delta State too, a form of geographical spread towards Ondo state.

garfield1:


With what? There's nothing else except in APC

Should PDP win the next election, can't he become the CoS or SSG?

Christlike01:


What are you saying,man?! Bini people had been existing before the arrival of Oranmiyan in Igodomigodo! Bini people are not Yoruba; they are a distinct ethnic group,very different from Yoruba. Oranmiyan arrived at that location,which he named "Ile Ibinu",with a very large entourage of his Yoruba people. They, of course mixed with the natives, indigenous Bini people through intermarriage and what have you. That's why, today's Indigenes of Benin are actually a mixture of indigenous Bini people and Yoruba who came from Ile Ife. Any Bini man with Yoruba name,e.g Oyegun,Bamidele, etc has Yoruba ancestry. The first Oba of Benin himself was a product of a Yoruba man, Oranmiyan and a Bini Princess.

Bini people are not Yoruba,but the Oba is of Yoruba descent.

Bini is Ilu Ibinu. Full of descendants of Oba, high chiefs and servants that moved with the Oba to found the city. The others are not from Bini but from the outskirts. Also Bini attracted all sorts of people at its height, Igarra, Ijaw, more Yoruba and others.

2mch:

Bini is Ilu Ibinu. Full of descendants of Oba, high chiefs and servants that moved with the Oba to found the city. The others are not from Bini but from the outskirts. Also Bini attracted all sorts of people at its height, Igarra, Ijaw, more Yoruba and others.

You need to get your facts right! First of all,it is "Ile Ibinu" but not "Ilu Ibinu" as you wrongly put it. Oranmiyan so named the place because he found the native inhabitants,the Binis,as a people who were too quick to anger,hence the name "Ile Ibinu". My argument essentially with you is that Bini people are not Yoruba!

Facts :

* Benin is the land of Bini people;it is not Yoruba land.
* Oranmiyan connected Yoruba people to the city of Benin being the first OBA OF BENIN. He introduced Yoruba traditional monachial system of government,as being practiced by his Yoruba people of Uhe (Ile Ife),to the Binis.
*Ogisos were the ancient aboriginal rulers of ancient Benin - Igodomigodo.
*Bini and Yoruba people are entirely two different people but the Benin royalty ( OBA of Benin) is of Yoruba ancestry through Oranmiyan,the progenitor of Eweka ruling dynasty of Benin.
*Yoruba was the official language at the OBA of Benin's palace before the arrival of the Portuguese and Spanish people.

*The Benin capital was a metropolis that spoke the same language in the past as Itsekiri. History should always be recanted correctly. Benin city was a Yoruba city of around 50,000 population but in the suburbs today's Benin language was spoken. It was when the empire ceased to be an empire that the present Benin people entered the capital. However they are owners of the land and were the one that accepted a Yoruba monarchy who named the city "Ile Ibinu"- Benin and brought tens of thousands of Yoruba people who built the Benin empire. Portuguese and Spanish records show Yoruba being spoken in Benin and one of them described how the Imale okun,a Yoruba deity, was venerated by saying "Mo be o mo be o imale okun mo be o" which is a Yoruba language. Therefore the "Binis" (Yoruba actually) that came to Iwere- Ode Itshekiri spoke the same language as the Itsekiri. The same is true for the Bini that went to every other place but the Bini of today are Edoid people.

To put it simply for you; Benin city was founded by Yoruba people but the land belonged to the Bini people.

Christlike01:


You need to get your facts right! First of all,it is "Ile Ibinu" but not "Ilu Ibinu" as you wrongly put it. Oranmiyan so named the place because he found the native inhabitants,the Binis,as a people who were too quick to anger,hence the name "Ile Ibinu". My argument essentially with you is that Bini people are not Yoruba!

Facts :

* Benin is the land of Bini people;it is not Yoruba land.
* Oranmiyan connected Yoruba people to the city of Benin being the first OBA OF BENIN. He introduced Yoruba traditional monachial system of government,as being practiced by his Yoruba people of Uhe (Ile Ife),to the Binis.
*Ogisos were the ancient aboriginal rulers of ancient Benin - Igodomigodo.
*Bini and Yoruba people are entirely two different people but the Benin royalty ( OBA of Benin) is of Yoruba ancestry through Oranmiyan,the progenitor of Eweka ruling dynasty of Benin.
*Yoruba was the official language at the OBA of Benin's palace before the arrival of the Portuguese and Spanish people.

*The Benin capital was a metropolis that spoke the same language in the past as Itsekiri. History should always be recanted correctly. Benin city was a Yoruba city of around 50,000 population but in the suburbs today's Benin language was spoken. It was when the empire ceased to be an empire that the present Benin people entered the capital. However they are owners of the land and were the one that accepted a Yoruba monarchy who named the city "Ile Ibinu"- Benin and brought tens of thousands of Yoruba people who built the Benin empire. Portuguese and Spanish records show Yoruba being spoken in Benin and one of them described how the Imale okun,a Yoruba deity, was venerated by saying "Mo be o mo be o imale okun mo be o" which is a Yoruba language. Therefore the "Binis" (Yoruba actually) that came to Iwere- Ode Itshekiri spoke the same language as the Itsekiri. The same is true for the Bini that went to every other place but the Bini of today are Edoid people.

To put it simply for you; Benin city was founded by Yoruba people but the land belonged to the Bini people.

Itsekiri speak the same language as Ondo. The itsekiri counterparts are in Ondo besides the Itsekiri as a matter of fact.

On Bini, of course Oduduwa great grandson, Oranmiyan came to Bini as requested and then founded other towns in Edo. That's why the Edo are connected to the Yoruba.

efogie:


You should try and study the history of you people. Oba is not originally a yoruba word. That is why we have two kings called Oba. The Oba of Benin, The Oba of Lagos. The two of them bear Oba as a title, while the others be different title. Eg Oni of Ife, Alafin of Oyo, Alake of Egbaland, Aujala of Ijebuland. Olu of Warri, Deji of Akure etc. Oba is a Bini word that has metamorphose to mean King, which is now use Generally as king in modern day Yoruba.

Mind you I'm from both side and know alot about my people.

I put it to you that you don't know ANYTHING!

The word "Oba" was alien to the Binis before the arrival of Oranmiyan to the location he termed "Ile Ibinu" which was corrupted by the Portuguese to become Benin today. Ogiso was the tittle of the aboriginal rulers of the land then.

The word "Oba" was coined from OBAtala, being the first king in Yoruba land and he owns all Yoruba Oba's crowns till tomorrow! Is Obatala not a Yoruba deity today ?! Yoruba culture influenced Bini's culture greatly, it's not other way round ! Is "Oyegun" a Bini name ? That's a Yoruba man's name from a family or Compound of renowned tittle-holders in the community ! Oyegun is deeply rooted in Yoruba language and it means "the tittle is quite befitting". Words like "Iya Oba", "Olori", "Asipa","Balogun",etc are well rooted in Yoruba language as well;they are all Yoruba tittles which the Binis have retained in their vocabulary till today. Bronze casting which Benin is renowned for,all over the world today,is actually an ancient skill of the Ile Ife people that was taken to "Ile Ibinu" - Benin by Oranmiyan's entourage !

The general name for all Kings in Yoruba land is Oba,but each Oba has his own tittle which is derived from the family or town's panelgyrics. For instance, "Ataoja" of Osogbo is the tittle of the Oba of Osogbo. The tittle has to do with ancient Osun River and the river goddess. "Ataoja" means he who receives fish with his hands and that has to do with the history of the ancient town - Osogbo. Oba is never a word in Bini language,it is a word deeply rooted in Yoruba language and history.

Christlike01:


You need to get your facts right! First of all,it is "Ile Ibinu" but not "Ilu Ibinu" as you wrongly put it. Oranmiyan so named the place because he found the native inhabitants,the Binis,as a people who were too quick to anger,hence the name "Ile Ibinu". My argument essentially with you is that Bini people are not Yoruba!

Facts :

* Benin is the land of Bini people;it is not Yoruba land.
* Oranmiyan connected Yoruba people to the city of Benin being the first OBA OF BENIN. He introduced Yoruba traditional monachial system of government,as being practiced by his Yoruba people of Uhe (Ile Ife),to the Binis.
*Ogisos were the ancient aboriginal rulers of ancient Benin - Igodomigodo.
*Bini and Yoruba people are entirely two different people but the Benin royalty ( OBA of Benin) is of Yoruba ancestry through Oranmiyan,the progenitor of Eweka ruling dynasty of Benin.
*Yoruba was the official language at the OBA of Benin's palace before the arrival of the Portuguese and Spanish people.

*The Benin capital was a metropolis that spoke the same language in the past as Itsekiri. History should always be recanted correctly. Benin city was a Yoruba city of around 50,000 population but in the suburbs today's Benin language was spoken. It was when the empire ceased to be an empire that the present Benin people entered the capital. However they are owners of the land and were the one that accepted a Yoruba monarchy who named the city "Ile Ibinu"- Benin and brought tens of thousands of Yoruba people who built the Benin empire. Portuguese and Spanish records show Yoruba being spoken in Benin and one of them described how the Imale okun,a Yoruba deity, was venerated by saying "Mo be o mo be o imale okun mo be o" which is a Yoruba language. Therefore the "Binis" (Yoruba actually) that came to Iwere- Ode Itshekiri spoke the same language as the Itsekiri. The same is true for the Bini that went to every other place but the Bini of today are Edoid people.

To put it simply for you; Benin city was founded by Yoruba people but the land belonged to the Bini people.

All this is story. I have lived in Benin City and I am telling you what it is. Oba is not surrounded by strangers. Think that and get the shock of your life.

yinkabeauty:


Edo is a state with many tribes , so it's illiteracy when you take state (Edo) to be tribe ? A state is different from a tribe ? the question is which of the tribes in Edo state? Akoko edo people, what tribe(s) are they ? are there no youba there?


Elliotwaveforec

Ok then, if you say so... but not everyone with a Yoruba first name is actually Yoruba. We have Itsekiri and Ijaws bearing Yoruba names as well and they're Niger Deltans.

All that matters is that he's an Edo indigene 🤷🏾‍♂️

2mch:

All this is story. I have lived in Benin City and I am telling you what it is. Oba is not surrounded by strangers. Think that and get the shock of your life.

Which "shock of your life" can be more pronounced than this pitiable level of ignorance you're displaying here,kiddo?! How will you not resort to foul languages when it is quite obvious that the subject matter is way beyond your elementary pedigree! What on earth does the fact or no fact that you once lived in Benin have to do with proper historical perspective of the ancient city ? You lived in Benin and so ? How does that change the fact that Yoruba and Bini are two distinctive ethnic groups?

If you're not suffering from chronic narcissistic personality disorder,you'll not be here arguing blindly that the Binis are Yoruba people! All the Obaguah Idases,Iyases,Osajiobases,etc who surround the Oba are all Yoruba men,right ?! Lol! You're a funny guy who knows nothing but pretending to know so much!

Will it not be sensible if you had said that many of the Indigenes of Benin today are descendants of a union between indigenous Bini people and Yoruba people who formed part of the entourage that came from Ile Ife with Oranmiyan,which is a fact ? But here you are,pretending to be an Authority on a subject you know nothing about! Was Oba Eweka,the first Oba of Benin,not a product of the union between a Yoruba man (Oranmiyan) and a Bini Princess?

Stop displaying your ignorance for all to see; Bini people are not Yoruba! I'm a Yoruba man and I know that our connection with the Bini people is the royal stool of the Oba of Benin which was established by a Yoruba man,a Prince named Oranmiyan from Ile Ife. He established the city - Ile Ibinu (Benin) as well but the land belonged to the aboriginal Bini.

donphilopus:


Should PDP win the next election, can't he become the CoS or SSG?

Adjoto is too thuggish and rugged to be ssg or cos na,a cerebral and civil fellow like ighodalo won't make that mistake.besides he will prefer building his own structure.as it stands,there's nothing to motivate him to work for obaseki seeing how shuaibu was treated

Dsimmer:


Ode. The fact that Yoruba doesn't like saying much about being Isrealites/Hebrews, compared to the Igbo who liked wailing, even though Igbo has nothing to lay claim on, however there are several things that tie the Yoruba to the Hebrew such as some similar arts like the Solomon knot used for royalties, the two crossroads sign representing the law etc. Also some similar cultures such as making the second twin the elder of the twins. Also Some similar words which means the same thing such as aye (haya) which means life, alive or I exist, aanu (Hannah) which means mercy/favor, Orun (Arun) which means height, Ori (Rosh) which means head etc. Also, the similar names for God such as Oluwa (Elowah), Olohun/Olorun (Elohim), Ela (Elah), Eledumare/Olodumare (El' mareh). The similar belief in a messiah (Ela) born of a virgin woman.

I mean there are several similarities which Yoruba have got in connection with the Hebrews while the Hebrews were still in Egypt. While Yoruba believe they're ancient people which may also be true, considering the ancient language.

And yes, Oduduwa who's the first black creation progenitor fell from the sky while Oduduwa the king came from Oke Ora. If you don't like it, go and knack your head on a rock.

Oduduwa fell from heaven as falling angel abi demon at the same time a king from Ole ora, himmmmm🤭 it sound miraculous to me sha anyways Oduduwa we all know is benin name🙄.

Any how sha weh you take explain Mr Hebrew connection🤪 i have to run gat flight to catch😎

Zeezenho:


Oduduwa fell from heaven as falling angel abi demon at the same time a king from Ole ora, himmmmm🤭 it sound miraculous to me sha anyways Oduduwa we all know is benin name🙄.

Any how sha weh you take explain Mr Hebrew connection🤪 i have to run gat flight to catch😎

Ode, cat got your tongue at the face of facts? 😂 Typical. Always saying gibberish, then keep mute while crying at the face of facts. I already told you to go knack your head on a rock if your brain can't understand simple things. On Oduduwa, Oduduwa himself predates the whole existence of Bini. At the time Oduduwa came from Oke Ora to rule ife, the Ekaledehan which died at ughoton was yet to be even conceived.

Meanwhile, I simply stated the evidences similar to the Hebrew since I couldn't understand why you were wailing. Well, you can see that Yoruba have got several robust evidences similar to the Hebrews from the arts (Solomon knot, Two crossroads sign etc), the culture (second twin as elder etc), the similar words with similar meaning (aye, Orun , melo, Aanu etc) and the names for God (Oluwa, Olorun, Olodumare/Eledumare) which are all similar to that of the Hebrew. While there are several of these evidences linking the Yoruba to the Hebrew, Yoruba also believe they're probably ancient people which may also be true, considering the ancient language.

santaclaws:


Ok then, if you say so... but not everyone with a Yoruba first name is actually Yoruba. We have Itsekiri and Ijaws bearing Yoruba names as well and they're Niger Deltans.

All that matters is that he's an Edo indigene 🤷🏾‍♂️

Yes , not all those bearing Yoruba names are actually Yoruba e.g Rotimi Amaechi, but in some areas the Yoruba names are so common that is no more by chance that those people in those region bear those names but speaks to ancestral/historical and cultural linkage e.g Itsekiri, Olukumi, Akoko Edo and some Bini people are Yoruboid, even though they might have evolved to almost distinct identity due to their mixing with other tribes.

Emir01:


You are far from history, Benins, and Itsekiri are more Yorubas than Akoko Edo, you need to pick up a history book to know the relationship between Benin and Yoruba. Not because of boundary, culture, language, and descendant.

Am not talking history here, I think you can't assimilate well, all am trying to illustrate is Yoruba and Itsekiri Etc wondering them may be considered official variants of the same language. Although Itsekiri and the South Eastern Yoruba dialects are mutually intelligible to varying degrees depending on proximity to each other, however, unlike Yoruba dialect speakers, native Itsekiri speakers do not recognise or use the standard Yoruba language as their official lingua franca

Hawkler:

Am not talking history here, I think you can't assimilate well, all am trying to illustrate is Yoruba and Itsekiri Etc wondering them may be considered official variants of the same language. Although Itsekiri and the South Eastern Yoruba dialects are mutually intelligible to varying degrees depending on proximity to each other, however, unlike Yoruba dialect speakers, native Itsekiri speakers do not recognise or use the standard Yoruba language as their official lingua franca

You made no sense guy. Do you want to know the history?