ijawkid:

Chei.......all u have done is help me prove what worship means when not applied to Yahweh.......

Bidam: Like i said earlier in this thread the word for worship in Greek is proskeneo the same word used for worship for the true God and for worship of false Gods. It does not mean one thing for one and another thing for the other. In Hebrew it is Shawkaw which means to prostate down bow worship (Gen.24:26, 48, 52 Gen. 22:5). In Psalm 2:12 it says, “Kiss the Son lest he be angry with you.” The word kiss is a term for worship (chashaq; a primitive root; to cling, i.e. join, (figuratively) to love, delight in... Strongs #2836)Even the muslims understand this concept borrowed from the Jews by their five daily prayers.

ijawkid:

Isn't kissing to show respect and honour to Gods appointed king??........

because I know Yahweh is the Father is the only one God I know what worship means in different context.....you are the one not even understanding what you are trying to explain.....

If I kiss the son am I not showing honour and respect to him as Gods annointed king Just as the isrealites did to david,solomon and the rest??...

frosbel:

Why do you keep ignoring various posts that have described this issue, is this intentional or just sheer laziness

Dewze:

if you are too scared to give an answer to my question then you ought to ve at least pointed out these posts tht ve addressed the issue of what 'God's spirit' realy means, rather than pull up a dodgy and ambiguous response.

Bidam: Your stupidity is annoying..didn't you see my explanation for the word kiss

frosbel:

first you call him a goat and then s.tupid !!!

We can all see the origins of the spirit of Trinity and eternal torment, definitely not from GOD.

frosbel:

Please stop using the words, ignore or avoid .

The Spirit of GOD is simply GOD's spirit.

"these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God." - 1 Corinthians 2:9

You would admit God has one Spirit not 2.

'The Spirit of GOD is simply GOD's spirit'.

Dewze:


N.B: I noticed tht you use a very intentionaly twisting term such as 1+1+1=1 as ur argument against the trinity. Those for the trinity do necessarily claim 1+1+1=1, rather they say that 1=1+1+1.

frosbel:





What utter illogical nonsense.

shdemidemi:

If it is logical, then it just might not be God. It is never a linear path with God, is it?

frosbel:





What utter illogical nonsense.

Now it gets even more amusing. When they are shouting this incomprehensible "how can God be three yet one" mystery from the rooftops, those with intelligent minds can see there is nothing mysterious at all about something being three yet one. All they do is place plural persons into a singular category or group which they call "God." How something can be three yet one is no mystery at all. We see this kind of thing every day. It is common to our everyday human experience.


How to make Three Equal One

One foot One foot One foot Three feet (Plural)
1 + 1 + 1 = 3


There is no way these three can be one is there? Or is there? Let's try again.



One foot One foot One foot One Yard (Singular)
1 + 1 + 1 = 1


It wasn't difficult. I simply redefined the terms in the middle of the process. I shifted classifications. I shifted the category of measuring units. Is this all that Trinitarians are doing? Is this the so-called unfathomable mystery? For the most part, yes it is. This is precisely what Trinitarians do. It is really quite simple. In fact, changing their definition of God from one situation to the next is an everyday experience for Trinitarians and those who actually are logical will see that changing their definition of the word "God" means they have a different God from one occasion to the next.


Let's do this again.

One line One line One line Three lines (Plural)
1 + 1 + 1 = 3

One line One line One line One Triangle (Singular)
1 + 1 + 1 = 1


Let's compare now and notice how the terms are redefined.

One foot + One foot + One foot = One yard (Singular)
One line + One line + One line = One triangle (Singular)
One person + One person + One person = One God (Singular)


How something can be three yet one is no great mystery. All you need to do is create a singular group or category and put those three things into that one group. There are myriads of things in our unverse which are three yet one, or two yet one, or four hundred thousand yet one. It all depends how you choose to define these things, just as Adam named the animals, and just as how we label measuring units and three sided polygons. If we put plural things into ONE group or category they are many and one at the same time because they are in one group.


A set of three distinct triplet children is one trio. Five people are one family. A group of three distinct musicians is one trio. Batman and Robin are one duo. A group of eleven football players is one team. Thus, it is no incomprehensible miracle to philosophically conjure up one group of three divine persons that we will categorically define as "one God." All you need to do is collect together plural entities and throw them all into one group. The name Trinitarians use to define or classify their one categorical group of three plural subjects is the word "God." How is the Trinitarian God three yet one? The Trinitarian one God is one group of three persons and this group, or category, is called "God." Yes this is their great unfathomable mystery - putting three items into one category.

http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity/articles/mystery.html

frosbel:





What utter illogical nonsense.

Bidam: Your stupidity is annoying..didn't you see my explanation for the word kiss

ijawkid:

I saw it...you ended up been the stupid one who couldn't understand your own post.....

I want you to go back and know what worship means when it is directed to Yahweh.....


If not we go dey worship everything we see...until it sticks to your adamant brain that worship directed to Yahweh is different from the worship given to all others.....

frosbel:

It is not from GOD because the GOD I know is not the author of confusion , only SATAN is the father of confusion and because we know the Trinity is utter chaos and confusion par excellence, it can only be a product of his imaginative lies which people like you have swallowed hook line ans sinker as with other false doctrines.

Bidam: ok tell us how you worship your yaweh?

Dewze:

this is only a confusion to those tht ve chosen to place God amongst the category of the 'cannots'.
God 'cannot' have a child.
God 'cannot' have a wife.
God 'cannot' lie.
God 'cannot' become flesh.
God 'cannot' be in two places in thesame time.
God cannot, cannot, cannot.
And this is a God tht is supposed to be omnipotent.
This itself is logicaly stupid.

Frosbel the fact that you will not agree on something does not mean that you cannot.

Dewze:

this is only a confusion to those tht ve chosen to place God amongst the category of the 'cannots'.
God 'cannot' have a child.
God 'cannot' have a wife.
God 'cannot' lie.
God 'cannot' become flesh.
God 'cannot' be in two places in thesame time.
God cannot, cannot, cannot.
And this is a God tht is supposed to be omnipotent.
This itself is logicaly stupid.

Frosbel the fact that you will not agree on something does not mean that you cannot.

Dewze:

is this your answer to all the points I have raised so far (especialy concerning the promise of the Holy Spirit)?

1+1+1=1 gives the impression that three persons coming together to become 1 person (this is the wicked and devilish impression tht u r trying to give frosbel).
1=1+1+1 on the other hand means three persons being expressed out of 1 person. I believe this is what those for the trinity intend to impress.

The fact tht you are a liar rubbishes evry argument you bring up any where and any time.

ijawkid:

My bro the nonsense don too dey glaring....

And meanwhile I thought it was 1 times 1 times 1=1.......

See formular na......

Dewze:

I care less about what mathermatical principles are used to define the trinity. As I ve mentioned earlier I mathematics are not enough to define the boundaries of God. Frosbel first mention here the term 1+1+1=1. What I am againt is the arrangement of tht term. It is intentionaly misleading.

ijawkid:

Just how Jesus worshipped Him............

Hope you dey remember how Jesus worship am.........

Bidam: Nope i can't you tell me

ijawkid:

Well how else do you intend to fix the formular that wouldn't still insult the person of Yahweh and also logic and scriptural truth??.......

Dewze:

Even Einsten dared to think he could understand and pick the mind of God by share mathematical formulars. He got the ruddest shock of his life even before he died, and that is part of why he made the famous statement 'God does not play dice'.

So, leave God out of mathematical formulars. He created mathematics, mathematics did not create Him.