I never said you wore charms.
Is the conscience at work here or what?
Hmmm

@Babyosisi: Thanks.
No. My conscience is clear. I do not even have any cut on the face. I am a Jaiyejaiye man. I am moderate in my dealing. Straight as arrow.

The Jaiyejaiye part is all in my head. I do not have to repeat all that i did decades ago in Nigeria and America. Its all out of my system.

Muhammad was not mentioned in the bible though he was mentioned in the gospel according to Barnabas (An apocryphal scripture). I think he was named as ahmad. I wouldn't put much weight on the mention of his name in that gospel since the authencity of that gospel has not yet been verifed. It was probably written by someone who wanted to reconcile chistianity with Islam.

SEFAGO:

It was probably written by someone who wanted to reconcile chistianity with Islam.

Then that would put it somewhere after Muhammad appeared on the scene - which would be so very late as to establish that the said Barnabas had anything to do with Jesus Christ!

Brilliant 4get_me!!!
That's the kind of reading-in-between-lines that we've been encouraging the 'jammat' to get use to; rather than black and white reading. Fantastic 2-line submission that removes every credibility of a load of gabbage called gospel of barnabas. Well done

@Havila, 4get_me; Are you saying that barnabas was not a companion of Jesus. I am just asking. If he is you must know that according to the Bible, he Barnabas will be one of the Judges of the children. None of you africans is from the children of Israel.

Ahmad means comforter. Ask an Arab. Muhammad is also known as Mustafa (AS).

Olabowole,you are indeed smooth and charming.
No wonder my sweet Igbo sister fell for you hook line and sinker.
I'm sure you now have plans of converting her to Islam.

Love is powerful indeed but God's love(Agape) is even more powerful.
I just hope Obiageli or Nneka or whatever her name is flees from your Islamic embrace lol.

I told you once before,my meeting you here is not by accident.
All the words you've heard will not be to nought because God watches over His words to perform it.
I know(and I'm sure) the light of Christ will shine your way someday soon.
Christ is the way,the truth and the life.
No one comes to the father but by him.

@Babyosisi: She is a Muslim, praying and readying herself for the fast. By the way, she has improved me, some.

I hope when you begin to make salah, you will remember the stubborn me. All the conversations and all.

Good fortune.

Jesus is Lord!!.
You do work very fast don't you?

May the Lord deliver her.Amen.
Hundreds of Muslims declare for Christ yearly during Ramadan.

After a fast,the spirit of man is usually at it's peak as the flesh is subdued and many Muslims that have at this time sincerely prayed to God to reveal himself and show them his path have had amazing visions of Chrst revealing Himself to them without ever hearing the gospel preached and many live today testifying.
I'll post one of such testimonies soon.

This may be your year.
You just never know.

Ha, uncle 'Wale. . . I almost missed your enquiry

olabowale:

@Havila, 4get_me; Are you saying that barnabas was not a companion of Jesus. I am just asking. If he is you must know that according to the Bible, he Barnabas will be one of the Judges of the children.

If by 'companion' you mean one of those called 'the Twelve disciples' or 'Twelve apostles', then the answer is a straight "No." You may verify for yourself from the following references:

(a) Matthew 10:2-4

(b) Luke 6:13-16

(c) Mark 3:14-19.

However, there was actually a Barnabas who was later called an apostle (Acts 14:14), but he was not part of the Twelve apostles given in the references above. All these apostles lived in the first century, and the Twelve knew Jesus Christ quite well -

John15:27 - "And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning." (This was Jesus speaking to the Twelve apostles).

However, the so-called "gospel of Barnabas" is said to have been written by someone who tried to reconcile Christianity and Islam - and since Muhammad appeared on the scene in the late 6th century (570-632 CE), anyone thinking about Islam was not writing from the first century. Therefore, that so-called gospel of Barnabas is dubious at best. There is simply no Muhammad or Ahmad in the Bible, QED.

olabowale:

None of you africans is from the children of Israel.

That is true, and I don't think anyone of us has claimed to be "from the children of Israel". There's an appellation for non-Israelites (or non-Jews) - it's called "Gentiles." But don't forget that salvation is of the Jews - so said Jesus in John 4:22, and therefore that salvation has come to the Gentiles as well; as exactly as the Psalmist said: "Kiss the Son, . . . Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him" (Psa. 2:12). We gentiles are part of "all they" who have put our trust in Jesus Christ the Son of God.

olabowale:

Ahmad means comforter. Ask an Arab. Muhammad is also known as Mustafa (AS).

That may well be, but don't make the mistake of thinking that Muhammad was the comforter Jesus spoke about in John 14-16. The Comforter there is the Holy Spirit whom Jesus promised would be with Christians (not Muslims) forever. All who hunger for Him can know Him today, even now - it only takes faith in Jesus Christ.

@4get_me: So you have established that the twlve companions did not include Barnabas. I will not argue that with you. However, was there a barnabas that introduced Saul/Paul (Lana) to the companions of jesus, after he claimed his serendipity?

If you read the passage of the Bible where Jesus (AS) was reported to have spoken about the comforter,you will see that he objectify this comforter as a male/masculine gender. It is as if to say that this comforter will walk the surface of the earth, in body and soul. Where can you reconcile the spirit with comforter. I guess if you read the Bible, prior to the birth of jesus, you will find that some of the personages experienced the spirit/ghost. For example, John in the womb was with the spirit.

The spirit was in some of jesus's speech was exchangeable for Prophet.
So I asked you this question: Since Jesus said in the Bible that when the comforter comes, the comforter will teach you all things.
What has the spirit taught you. Who among the christians has the comforter which you now call the spirit taught in over 2000 years since Jesus left.

I will tell you what Muhammad taught since Jesus left. I will give you the most simple and the most complex situations and Muhammad (AS) had taught Muslims well. It is up to every one including the muslims and the non muslims to accept this lecture from Muhammad (AS or reject it.

@olabowale,

The facts are simple and plain. The "Barnabas" you're misconstruing and mixing up is not the Barnabas of Acts 14; unless you're trying to say that the same individual lived from the 1st century to the 6th century when Islam was born!

Read carefully the work and Person of the Holy Spirit in John 14 to 16 - you will see without bias that Muhammad did not fit the description at all.

You want to know what the Holy Spirit has taught Christians? Read the epistles in the New Testament!

@Babyosisi; Did you hear about The jewish blood in George Allen.  Senator Allen of Virginia was the person who called the Indian man Makaka. So now that he is somewhat Jewish, he becomes over sensitive. You see, those who live in Glass house should not throw stone.

People are people. Yet George Allen was born in California while the person he called makaka was born in Virginia.

As to my possible convertion to Christianity, it will never happen. Infact, I am hoping that you will give Islam a chance. If your fiancee has any problem with it, then as they say in Yoruba adage; No one stops at only one orange from a batch that is very sweet. I love pretty women. Zainab is 6ft tall. You will be in good company.

4get_me: What did the spirit teach you about relationship with your family, cleanliness, good living including how to remain healthy and fit. What did the spirit teach you about family and charity, etc.

olabowale:

@Babyosisi; Did you hear about The jewish blood in George Allen. Senator Allen of Virginia was the person who called the Indian man Makaka. So now that he is somewhat Jewish, he becomes over sensitive. You see, those who live in Glass house should not throw stone.

People are people. Yet George Allen was born in California while the person he called makaka was born in Virginia.

As to my possible convertion to Christianity, it will never happen. Infact, I am hoping that you will give Islam a chance. If your fiancee has any problem with it, then as they say in Yoruba adage; No one stops at only one orange from a batch that is very sweet. I love pretty women. Zainab is 6ft tall. You will be in good company.

She has even changed her name too?Are you married already?
Make sure you don't marry a second,third and a fourth wife lol.
My man is a man of God,sanctified by the blood.
Jesus is Lord and we are sold out to him.

@Babyosisi: The opportunity for, second, third and fourth is opened. I have good genes. I come from good stock. All of us are educated. You have Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, others including VC. Just in case you think about the large family. My older boy graduated when he was 21. His younger brother is a junior and he is still under 20.

I pray that everything works out for you. It is in human nature to be married. However I still have an opening reserved for a pretty Igbo woman. She must be Muslima even before she is considered for it. You see, it is like Ikemba, no Igbo woman can refuse him. I am a younger version of him. Take it back to the 60s/early 70s.

Men you guys are not really smart. The exact date of the gospel of barnabas cannot be authenticated. If you are foolish enough to think that the bible was bound together from the beginning then you are all fools. Several scriptures were used by early christians which are not accepted now as inspired books of God. The gospel of barnabas could have been written a few centuries after the death of Jesus then gradually changed to is now available. For example, the Gospel according to Mark had several versions( That is what I was tAUGHT IN CLASS, i idn't say it was true). Also the revelations was not accepted at an authentic book by the early christians. If you read the last chapters of the gospel of mark you would see that the gospel was written by a roman(mark was a roman christian convert) because of the reference to people coming back from the dead. While the gospel of Matthew made no reference to such since it was written by a jew- jews even up till now don't believe in the resurrection of the dead.
Concerning Senator Allen, I used to be part of his campaigning team(dropped out because of school work). Anyway not me save my opinions about Islam because to be sincere I am really scared of muslims and what they can do.

Salam Kismat,Nuru and all my dear brothers nd sisters in Islam.May Almighty ALLAH continue to enrich ur knouwledge in the course of revealing the simple truth that have been hidden for hundreds of years to humanity.
To my Christians brothers and sisters I also pray that Almighty ALLAH open ur heart and eyes to the simple truth.Amin.May ALLAH forgive us our past,present and yet to come sins.Amin.
Ma Salaam.

Salam Kismat,Nuru and all my dear brothers nd sisters in Islam.May Almighty ALLAH continue to enrich ur knouwledge in the course of revealing the simple truth that have been hidden for hundreds of years to humanity.
To my Christians brothers and sisters I also pray that Almighty ALLAH open ur heart and eyes to the simple truth.Amin.May ALLAH forgive us our past,present and yet to come sins.Amin.
Ma Salaam.

I advice you my fellow muslim brothers to stop decieving yourselves by following that false prophet. it is not too late to accept Christ as your Lord and personal Savior. Especially you Olabowale I am praying for the true God to touch your heart and bring you and your household to his kingdom. As for your wife i doubt if she was a christian before marrying you; no true christian would have married you an unbeliever, a muslim for that matter. I really pity her sha. And lastly never you try to compare islam with christianity. If islam is a religion, christianity is not. Christianity is more than a religion; it is the faith and grace of God unto mankind.

well olabowale,if you are thinking of marrying other wives,you better leave the USA back to Naija or you will be on the evening news and jail for polygamy.
Unless you tell them she is your sister.

Ishmael made a good point,if your woman was truly a Christian(not Church goer) she would not come near you.

For all unbelivers out there i'll suggest u visit this website so that u can see the simple truth and not die with ur disbelive.The site is very easy to acces and tell u more about what u dont know(The True Religion which is Islam)It will be of importance if u check it out and read with true mind.May Allah show you the way(Islam)
The website is http://www.answering-christianity.com
Ma Salaam.

@Ismael: Maybe my Iman (Faith) is weak, thats why you are preaching to me. I hereby ask the Lord of the world, The Almighty Allah to protect me from weak faith. To increase my faith and plant my feet firmly on right guidance. I will continue to pray that Allah open your eyes Ismael. That you will worship your Creator, the One Who is truly deserving all your worship.

AS to my wife, she was a good christian. However God has blessed her to accept islam. She is a great muslima. She is beautiful and 6ft tall. Now thats a woman. She is a pure gem.

@Babyosisi: There is a place reserved for another pretty and exotic Ibo woman. In the long run, we all have to make our choices. Nigeria is a fun place. I prefer it to america. Even though, I believe i know America well enough. I am a home boy. Nigerian through to the bone.

@brother Olabowale

Is it you that said that Under Islam in India The hindu and other where Tolerated? Please read below

"Let it be said right away: the massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis; or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese."

http://www.indiastar.com/wallia10.htm


", the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without and multiplying from within."

I say this religion na Violent one formulated by a demon possesed muhamed

@Backslider: I went to your recommended site. Am I surprised that it is from a French/Swiss writer? No. You see, I developed a close friendship with one of the french /swiss nobilities from 1986 January, but this relationship that went through many experiences came to a crashing end in 2003.

Why. From immediately after 911, it was as if this man became Mr. hyde! He criticized me every which was he could. My religion was always the subject of discussion with him. Yet, I have always been Muslim and this was not new to him.

I also have an Hindu friend in London from the nobilities. His father was like the ruler of a province during the British rule. We often have frank talks with each other. Immediately after the recent unrest in India, we talked about it. I did ask him what was the history of the Muslims in India. he never spoke about what your french spoke about.

I wonder if the Muslims had such a great upperhand and used it against the 'Poor non muslim Indians', please tell me why was it that Muslims before Pakistanin/Bangladeshi break way were not the majority?

Do you know that the Taj mahal was built by a Muslim King. For me, if I were to rule the Yoruba land for example, infact, Nigeria or the world, my primary interest will be to destroy all statues, worshipped or otherwise. I think statues serve in the psyche of those who pay any reverence to them, some kind of unintended worship. Afterall, most people who worship other gods do it by having physical representations. I will not force anybody to convert to my religion. However all types of Icns will be removed from the public spaces. Religious objects will have to the proper places; places of worship.

I am shocked that as a christian, you are not frowning against Idols or statues. Is it because of the CROSS.

@ Oyebanji07:
Well, out of curiousity and with an open-mind, I went to the web-site and well it was full of the same-ol, same-ol hypocritical nonsense and mumbojumbo being used to keep you in darkness. Most of them have been rubbished by discussions here on this forum, my dear. as an example:

1) You muslims believe that Muhammad was the 'Comforter' that Jesus refered to in John 14 vs 16; rubbish!! because the next verse, 17, Jesus further told us about the 'comforter or holy spirit' that he is "the spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye (we) know him, for he dwelleth WITH you and shall be IN you".  Muhammad and his devouring sword was seen because he was a physical man, neither can he dwell IN you even muslims (he probably is inside the suicide bombers, maybe). Dont you see Jesus was reffering to the spirit of Truth i.e the spirit of the True God as contrasted with false gods (e.g allah) of other religions? The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God that dwells inside every christian who accepts Jesus as their Lord and saviour. He teaches, convicts, directs, encourages, discipline e.t.c
2) The concept of Trinity in Islam is God, Mary and Jesus, you do not believe in this 'Trinity', NEITHER DO CHRISTIANS!!! Our Triune God, Biblically confirmed severally is God the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.
I can go on and on, but to save space and time, it is not necessary, their is nothing in Islam that rebute Jesus Christ and christianity, my dear. I will now join you to the list of your other 'jammat' that I am praying for now. Jesus Christ came to  'preach the gospel to the poor, deliverance to the oppresed, to the open the eyes of the blind' among other things; these assignments has now been passed unto every spirit saved, born-again christian such as myself and by the grace of God, we will open your eyes of understanding. Amen
Prayfor the peace of Jerusalem

olabowale:

@Babyosisi: There is a place reserved for another pretty and exotic Ibo woman. In the long run, we all have to make our choices. Nigeria is a fun place. I prefer it to america. Even though, I believe i know America well enough. I am a home boy. Nigerian through to the bone.

My brothers and sisters,join and see where uncle olabowale is hmm hmm.
I shall not spell it out.
You said Allah has given you a 6 ft preety gem of a woman  but your eyes are still searching for another?
May the Lord of hosts deliver your soul!!!
Christ is still knocking,give him a chance dear.

@Babyosisi; What did I do. Afterall, you have clearly noted that Islam allows 4 for a man under strict guideline. Whats the complaint about.

However, please visit WWW.answering-christianity.com.
I wish you well.

@Havila: Why not propose your argument to the man on the Website. It is believe that the man will be happy to engage you on this topic, or any other.

Although, I find your argument very weak, but I will like to see how he tackles your thesis.

@ Olabowole according to scriptures,Muhammad is one of the false prophets Christ warned us about that will deceive many.
I had known of that site for a while.
There is nothing there that we've not heard before.

The author of the site is obviously a Muslim bruised at the worlds knowledge and revelation of Mohammeds atrocities.
I was sickened by his false Biblical claims of men sticking their fingers into their daughters to prove their virginity.
He never provided a verse to say so rather his warped imagination led him to that conclusion.

Then on claiming that 3 year olds were raped in the Bible he gives a non Biblical account to support it.

As a Christian,I cannot claim to know the reasons why violent wars were fought in the old testament nor why Abraham an Isaac and other patriarchs had more than one wife or why solomon had concubines.
But one thing I do know.

The Bible makes it clear that Christ is the fulfillment of that prophecy.
And by his birth,death and resurrection, we now have a new covenant
He came to fulfill the law.
What the blood of bulls and rams could not do,the blood of Jesus accomplished that.
The dispensation of grace which started after Christ died for us says a man should be the husband of one wife,to love your neighbor as yourself and also love those who despise you.
Sexual immorality is a sure train to hell.

Christ teaches us to fight our battles on our knees not with a physical sword.
He seeks a deep relationship with man.
Christianity is not a religion.
It is not even a way of life
It is life itself.
I speak of something I have tasted and proven without a doubt to be true.

A popular song goes
Jesus loves me this I know.
For the Bible tells me so etc
Another song less popular but more powerful says:

Jesus love,this I know
It's not just the Bible that tells me so.
For I can feel it,deep in my soul.
Jesus loves me,this I know

@Babyosisi: Have you engaged the man on the site in any way. What is it that you disagree with and why. Is it because it is a thesis that is against the grain of the christian beliefs.

Since you are a Doctor of medicine, what do you think about the many medical topics in the Qur'an. Some are really expounded upon on the site.