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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Janosky: 9:09pm On Jun 02, 2023
Emusan:


Just now, you are already received new light.

You made bold statement that it was Jehovah who is coming. I guess you didn't think it through before making that statement

That's why you're Janosense for sure cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin



But Jehovah Himself announced before hand that He's the one coming which you agreed with.

So did Jehovah lie? Mr Janosense




[s]Stop claiming what doesn't belong to you, this not JWs forum so you can get lost to your hall[/s]
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John 5:,37,43. "I have come in my Father's name"

Emusan, the TWISTER,
Janosky said "Jehovah OWNS the Way/Assignment of the 2 messengers" of Malachi 3:1.
I referenced John 17:7 & John 7:16. grin grin

Oga, your comprehension skills dey very poor.
Please,go & DELETE John 5:37,43 from your Bible
.

Emusan, continue your FOLLY, DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21pm On Jun 02, 2023
Emusan:

This is a proof that you don't understand Trinity yet priding in your ignorance cheesy grin cheesy grin

Ọmọ TRINITY no dey inside Bible so if anyone is insisting on it such a person needs more than the Bible to convince his listeners.
I won't preach what is not written in the Bible to you such things are known as sacred secrets only to be revealed to believers.
So your trinity shouldn't even be the reason why you will speak against the beliefs of others whose faith is solidly grounded in the Bible! wink

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by FxMasterz: 9:36pm On Jun 02, 2023
Janosky:


LIAR grin grin
Which covenant did John the Baptizer message you about?

You are arguing against your fellow Trinitarians (who published Geneva Bible & Amplified Bible) as well as the Catholic Church who brought Trinity to you.


Why is the same ghost be given conflicting doctrine to you & them?


There are 2 messengers (Hebrew malakh angels) in Malachi 3:1.
First sentence, the angel ,(John the Baptizer) who prepares the way for lord (Jesus).
2nd sentence, Angel of the covenant (Jesus Christ) who is coming.

The statement of Malachi was made by Jehovah God.

The Almighty God, Jehovah is NEVER anybody's messenger (angel), Isaiah 6:8.





MUMU RANTS without proof.
Oga,Carry your IBERIBEISM outta here.
Your Pastorpreneurs dey consult shamans everywhere.
But,you come Nairaland to DECEIVE yourself
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I have said it that the very fruits you bear already give you out as a demon possessed fellow. You don't know God.

God's covenant of salvation in Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ Himself is God's covenant. He embodies the Covenant. There's a mesanger who prepared the way before Him. That mesanger is John the Baptist. That he was referred to as the mesanger of the Covenant would confuse unbelievers like you. However, he is clearly distinguished by the remark that said "This mesanger of the Covenant prepares the way for the Lord to come into His temple."

You're not a child of God, so go give your life to Christ and be saved before you come discussing the Bible.

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:48pm On Jun 02, 2023
FxMasterz:


I have said it that the very fruits you bear already give you out as a demon possessed fellow. You don't know God.

God's covenant of salvation in Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ Himself is God's covenant. He embodies the Covenant. There's a mesanger who prepared the way before Him. That mesanger is John the Baptist. That he was referred to as the mesanger of the Covenant would confuse unbelievers like you. However, he is clearly distinguished by the remark that said "This mesanger of the Covenant prepares the way for the Lord to come into His temple."

You're not a child of God, so go give your life to Christ and be saved before you come discussing the Bible.


Jesus is the MESSENGER of the covenant!

The messenger of the first covenant is Moses who served as both prophet and God {Exodus 7:1} so the true God promised to send another messenger like Moses who will also be both prophet and God {Deuteronomy 18:18} this is the messenger of the second covenant.

Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus is that messenger! Act 3:22

So if TRINITY is blurring your understanding it's not the same with everyone! smiley
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 10:09am On Jun 03, 2023
Janosky:
John 5:,37,43. "I have come in my Father's name"

Did Jehovah say in Malachi that someone else will come in His name or Himself will come as you early agreed? cheesy cheesy

Emusan, the TWISTER,
Janosky said "Jehovah OWNS the Way/Assignment of the 2 messengers" of Malachi 3:1.
I referenced John 17:7 & John 7:16. grin grin

But it's Jehovah who is coming

Oga, your comprehension skills dey very poor.
Please,go & DELETE John 5:37,43 from your Bible

Says someone who doesn't have brain cheesy grin cheesy grin

Emusan, continue your FOLLY, DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Mr folly foller
Mr gibberish
Mr continue to deceive yourself cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 10:13am On Jun 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ TRINITY no dey inside Bible

Just as Theocracy isn't in the Bible.

so if anyone is insisting on it such a person needs more than the Bible to convince his listeners.

No just say you don't understand what you're talking about.

If you are confused or lack the knowledge, simply ask someone to put you through.

I won't preach what is not written in the Bible to you such things are known as sacred secrets only to be revealed to believers.

But you preached 1914
Theocracy
Jesus is Angel Michael e.t.c

So your trinity shouldn't even be the reason why you will speak against the beliefs of others whose faith is solidly grounded in the Bible!

I didn't speak against your false doctrines because of Trinity but pointing out that you lack in depth knowledge of Trinity and you'll be claiming Mr know it all. grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:22am On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:

But you preached 1914
Theocracy
Jesus is Angel Michael

You need to know the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.

We don't preach these things it's our teaching within ourselves. So you're wrong because no JW will come preaching these things to you as they're sacred secrets! wink
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 10:26am On Jun 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You need to know the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.

Oga ade say something reasonable.

We don't preach these things it's our teaching within ourselves.

So how do people like me know about it if you don't preach it?

So you're wrong because no JW will come preaching these things to you as they're sacred secrets! wink

Liar! And it full your publication.

When will you stop lying for your god of men? cheesy grin cheesy

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:56pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:

Oga ade say something reasonable.
So how do people like me know about it if you don't preach it? Liar! And it full your publication. When will you stop lying for your god of men? cheesy grin cheesy

Please paste one magazine of Jehovah's Witnesses where it is written that Jesus is the archangel Michael! smiley
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by FxMasterz: 2:40pm On Jun 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is the MESSENGER of the covenant!


Jesus is more than a mesanger of the covenant. He's the covenant!

"I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;" Isaiah 42:6
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Janosky: 4:01pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:


Did Jehovah say in Malachi that someone else will come in His name or Himself will come as you early agreed? cheesy cheesy



But it's Jehovah who is coming



Says someone who doesn't have brain cheesy grin cheesy grin



Mr folly foller
Mr gibberish
Mr continue to deceive yourself cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.

Jesus Christ is DOING the things his God & Father said in Malachi 3:1.


Also,John 5:37,43 is granting understanding to Emusaninto but his empty skull is PROVEN stubbornness.
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 6:21pm On Jun 03, 2023
Janosky:
John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.

Jesus Christ is DOING the things his God & Father said in Malachi 3:1.[/i]

Also,John 5:37,43 is granting understanding to Emusaninto but his empty skull is PROVEN stubbornness.

Reason why you've been dodging my questions since grin grin cheesy grin

So in a nutshell Jehovah lied in Malachi that He is coming and later send another person grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 6:26pm On Jun 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Please paste one magazine of Jehovah's Witnesses where it is written that Jesus is the archangel Michael! smiley

Repeat this statement again

So that I will bookmark it for future reference!

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Janosky: 7:03pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:


Reason why you've been dodging my questions since grin grin cheesy grin

So in a nutshell Jehovah lied in Malachi that He is coming and later send another person grin cheesy grin grin
You are arguing against John the apostle & Jesus Christ @John5:37, 43.

Carry your Mumu outta this thread.
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 7:18pm On Jun 03, 2023
Janosky:
You are arguing against John the apostle & Jesus Christ @John5:37, 43.

Carry your Mumu outta this thread.

I don't know when Jesus and John the Baptist join Nairaland.

I simply ask you simple question, did Jehovah lied that He's coming in Malachi but later send another person? cheesy grin cheesy grin

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 7:28pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:

Repeat this statement again
So that I will bookmark it for future reference!

You can never ever find a publication of JWs in which it's written
"Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael"
That's why i said it's a sacred secret so it's teaching among us not preaching.
It's like when Jesus secretly told his disciples that John the baptist is Elijah who is to come or that he is the Christ such teachings are sacred secrets only to be taught among his disciples! Matthew 16:20

But while teaching an interested person who is studying the Bible with them such a person may say:
"from what i've gathered so far it's like Jesus is the Christ"
Then our brothers must no longer hide it since it's our Bible student that figured it out on his own. Note that Jesus never told any Jew:
"I am the Christ"
He wanted them to figure it out on their own through discernment! Luke 9:21
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 7:42pm On Jun 03, 2023
AkinwaleJJ:


You can never ever find a publication of JWs in which it's written
"Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael"
That's why i said it's a sacred secret so it's teaching among us not preaching.
It's like when Jesus secretly told his disciples that John the baptist is Elijah who is to come or that he is the Christ such teachings are sacred secrets only to be taught among his disciples! Matthew 16:20

But while teaching an interested person who is studying the Bible with them such a person may say:
"from what i've gathered so far it's like Jesus is the Christ"
Then our brothers must no longer hide it since it's our Bible student that figured it out on his own. Note that Jesus never told any Jew:
"I am the Christ"
He wanted them to figure it out on their own through discernment! Luke 9:21

You can lie sha...

The booklet "What does the Bible really teach?" had this topic "Who is Michael the archangel?"

So if I may ask, who published that book?

Anyway I know you take after your father the Devil and the funny thing is you'll still find how you'll twist this. cheesy grin cheesy grin

Why do you violate Nairaland rule 19 by using alternate accounts when you get banned?

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 7:59pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:

You can lie sha...
The booklet "What does the Bible really teach?" had this topic "Who is Michael the archangel?"

This is what i've been telling you since!

The book "What does the Bible really teach"

Please is it about PREACHING or TEACHING?

We don't PREACH such it's TEACHING among us so only interested persons studying the Bible with us can get such information! smiley
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 8:06pm On Jun 03, 2023
AkinwaleJJ:


This is what i've been telling you since!

The book "What does the Bible really teach"

Please is it about PREACHING or TEACHING?

We don't PREACH such it's TEACHING among us so only interested persons studying the Bible with us can get such information! smiley

So that book it's only meant for jws yet JWs distributes it to everyone

Come with another lie...

I've provided you a booklet which you first lied it wasn't there.

So, can you tell me now, which booklet JWs produced for preaching and the one for teaching?

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 8:13pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:

So that book it's only meant for jws yet JWs distributes it to everyone
Come with another lie...

MaxInDHouse:

You need to know the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.

If a JW comes to your house he or she will never ever preach such sacred secret to you it's only when you choose to LEARN from us that we will start TEACHING you.
Note the chapter where that topic is found, it's believed that before you reach that part you must have been convinced that we are true servants of God because by then we should be praying with you which we don't do with anyone who hasn't accepted us as true servants of God! John 17:8-9 smiley
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 8:15pm On Jun 03, 2023
AkinwaleJJ:
If a JW comes to your house he or she will never ever preach such sacred secret to you it's only when you choose to LEARN from us that we will start TEACHING you.

At least it's in your booklet which you initially denied.

Lying liar JWs!

Note the chapter where that topic is found, it's believed that before you reach that part you must have been convinced that we are true servants of God because by then we should be praying with you which we don't do with anyone who hasn't accepted us as true servants of God! John 17:8-9 smiley

Does the booklet give to the people?

I have the booklet before and it was given to me by JWs who came to my home, and I didn't accept JWs as the true servants of God.

Liar...

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 8:26pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:

At least it's in your booklet which you initially denied.
Lying liar JWs!
Does the booklet give to the people?
I have the booklet before and it was given to me by JWs who came to my home, and I didn't accept JWs as the true servants of God.
Liar...

So who is lying now?

You don't even know the difference between a booklet and a book.

Well booklets are publications with few pages not a book like the one you mentioned which is hundreds of pages.

Moreover you've not pasted any publication that says

"Jesus Christ is archangel Michael"

Do that and prove me a liar.

PREACHING is presentation of our message but TEACHING is revealing sacred secrets that's not plainly written in the Bible! smiley
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 8:34pm On Jun 03, 2023
AkinwaleJJ:
So who is lying now?

You don't even know the difference between a booklet and a book.

Well booklets are publications with few pages not a book like the one you mentioned which is hundreds of pages.

See diversion cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Moreover you've not pasted any publication that says

"Jesus Christ is archangel Michael"

Do that and prove me a liar.

I didn't that above!

So you're a liar.

PREACHING is presentation of our message but TEACHING is revealing sacred secrets that's not plainly written in the Bible! smiley

Lol....

You haven't given me any booklet that differentiates JWs preaching from teaching.
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 8:43pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:


Oga ade say something reasonable.



So how do people like me know about it if you don't preach it?



Liar! And it full your publication.

When will you stop lying for your god of men? cheesy grin cheesy

Hahaha, that one intelligence keeps drowning day by day.
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 8:49pm On Jun 03, 2023
Emusan:

See diversion
Booklets differ from books!
Emusan:

I didn't that above!
So you're a liar.
So if you can't who is the liar?
Emusan:

You haven't given me any booklet that differentiates JWs preaching from teaching.
PREACHING are tracts in one or two pages and booklets of few pages.
TEACHING are books we must study with you! wink
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 8:55pm On Jun 03, 2023
AkinwaleJJ:

Booklets differ from books!

So if you can't who is the liar?

PREACHING are tracts in one or two pages and booklets of few pages.
TEACHING are books we must study with you! wink

You still dey lie over the matter grin grin grin grin

The Bible’s Viewpoint

Who Is Michael the Archangel?

ACCORDING to the Bible, there are millions of angelic creatures inhabiting the spirit realm. (Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 5:11) From beginning to end, the Scriptures make hundreds of references to the angels that remain loyal to God. Yet, only two of these spirit creatures are mentioned by name. One is the angel Gabriel, who personally delivered messages from God to three different individuals over a period of some 600 years. (Daniel 9:20-22; Luke 1:8-19, 26-28) The other angel mentioned by name in the Bible is Michael.....

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102002085

Our Readers Ask . . .

Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?

Put simply, the answer is yes. The custom of being called by more than one name is common in many cultures. The same situation occurs with names in the Bible. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also named Israel. (Genesis 35:10) The apostle Peter is named in five different ways​—Symeon, Simon, Peter, Cephas, and Simon Peter. (Matthew 10:2; 16:16; John 1:42; Acts 15:7, 14) How can we be sure that Michael is another name for Jesus? Consider the following Scriptural evidence

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010250

Are the above books or magazine? grin grin grin grin

Oya change mouth or start your usual peddlings
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:17pm On Jun 03, 2023
achorladey:


You still dey lie over the matter grin grin grin grin

The Bible’s Viewpoint

Who Is Michael the Archangel?

ACCORDING to the Bible, there are millions of angelic creatures inhabiting the spirit realm. (Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 5:11) From beginning to end, the Scriptures make hundreds of references to the angels that remain loyal to God. Yet, only two of these spirit creatures are mentioned by name. One is the angel Gabriel, who personally delivered messages from God to three different individuals over a period of some 600 years. (Daniel 9:20-22; Luke 1:8-19, 26-28) The other angel mentioned by name in the Bible is Michael.....

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102002085

Our Readers Ask . . .

Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?

Put simply, the answer is yes. The custom of being called by more than one name is common in many cultures. The same situation occurs with names in the Bible. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also named Israel. (Genesis 35:10) The apostle Peter is named in five different ways​—Symeon, Simon, Peter, Cephas, and Simon Peter. (Matthew 10:2; 16:16; John 1:42; Acts 15:7, 14) How can we be sure that Michael is another name for Jesus? Consider the following Scriptural evidence

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010250

Are the above books or magazine? grin grin grin grin

Oya change mouth or start your usual peddlings

Are you talking about our PREACHING or TEACHING? smiley
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 9:19pm On Jun 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ TRINITY no dey inside Bible so if anyone is insisting on it such a person needs more than the Bible to convince his listeners.
I won't preach what is not written in the Bible to you such things are known as sacred secrets only to be revealed to believers.
So your trinity shouldn't even be the reason why you will speak against the beliefs of others whose faith is solidly grounded in the Bible! wink


1914 dey Bible

Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 dey Bible

Last days began in 1914 dey Bible.

Jerusalem was destroyed 607 B. C. E dey Bible

Jesus is angel Michael dey Bible

grin grin grin grin grin

Don't hide behind sacred secret. Since you want to regard all of the above as sacred secret revealed restricted to your religious organization. Do you equally see the TRINITY doctrine as sacred secrets of those you love to call christendom?

Oya change mouth grin grin
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 9:20pm On Jun 03, 2023
AkinwaleJJ:


Are you talking about our PREACHING or TEACHING? smiley

I am talking about...

Please paste one magazine of Jehovah's Witnesses where it is written that Jesus is the archangel Michael!


grin grin grin grin

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Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:20pm On Jun 03, 2023
achorladey:



1914 dey Bible

Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 dey Bible

Last days began in 1914 dey Bible.

Jerusalem was destroyed 607 B. C. E dey Bible

Jesus is angel Michael dey Bible

grin grin grin grin grin

Don't hide behind sacred secret. Since you want to regard all of the above as sacred secret revealed restricted to your religious organization. Do you equally see the TRINITY doctrine as sacred secrets of those you love to call christendom?

Oya change mouth grin grin

AkinwaleJJ:

Are you talking about our PREACHING or TEACHING? smiley
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 9:23pm On Jun 03, 2023
AkinwaleJJ:



Do you equally see the TRINITY doctrine as sacred secrets of those you love to call christendom?

Don't hide behind teaching or preaching grin grin
Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:26pm On Jun 03, 2023
achorladey:

I am talking about

Just paste a screenshot of any magazine or publication of JWs where it's written:

"Jesus is the archangel Michael"

Instead you're talking about where readers of our publications want to learn from us!

achorladey:

Our Readers Ask . . .

Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?

So are we the one preaching it or they want to learn from us? smiley

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