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| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 6:58pm On Jun 05, 2023 |
Courz: The funny thing is, I didn't even go deeper in getting those posts. One thing is certain, if the account actually belongs to his wife with what had been posted with that account, it shows his wife and him aren't on the same page in many view points. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:10pm On Jun 05, 2023 |
Courz: Jews in the first century did more than that to Jesus and his disciples but later repent when they discovered they were wrong. Act 2:37 We don't hate people for what they think, say or do to us {Luke 6:28} our prayers is for them to think deeply so that our God may open their eyes! Luke 23:34 compare to Act 7:60 Whatever anyone has done to us in the past has been forgiven if only they have a rethink. Do you know what i made JWs pass through when coming to preach to me?  |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13pm On Jun 05, 2023 |
Emusan: She is a dedicated servant of Jehovah just like me i banned her from commenting on religious section due to her frequent anger as she hates trolls. Women talks are normal, they were chatting and it's common with women! |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Emusan(m): 8:20pm On Jun 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Who asked you?   i banned her from commenting on religious section due to her frequent anger as she hates trolls. Another revelation! But you're free to comment on religion section when you're even worst than her and she's more intelligent than you after all, she taught you how to post on Nairaland Women talks are normal, they were chatting and it's common with women! Action speaks louder than words! Meanwhile, the point here are: 1. Jesus isn't Angel Michael 2. You lied against The Holy Spirit of God  3 Likes |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Maximus692(m): 9:30pm On Jun 05, 2023 |
This is the fourth time my account is barred this last few days but when it happens to others they will start looking for someone to blaim! |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by johnw47: 11:47pm On Jun 05, 2023 |
Maximus692: lost false jw mad max but not you, you just use another account when banned which is against forum rules, which is one form of lawlessness: Mat_7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' 1Jn_3:4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Maximus692(m): 3:20am On Jun 06, 2023 |
johnw47: So it's on Nairaland that your own lawlessness applies shey? What about calling your neighbor "mad" after days you've had arguments? Guy you need to take your medicine! |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by johnw47: 5:24am On Jun 06, 2023 |
Maximus692: lost false jw mad max most dum one, you are mad only a mad man would claim that he can defeat six fully armed combatants single handed only a mad man tells for all to read that his wife loves playing with his dic, etc. you also paranoid which is mental disease and fear: rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 8:11am On Jun 06, 2023 |
Maximus692: Pot calling kettle black That medicine should be for you instead So it's on Nairaland that your own lawlessness applies shey? I forgot It is your religious organization that determines what lawlessness means here on nairaland .1 Like |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 8:13am On Jun 06, 2023 |
johnw47: His own lawlessness knows no bound. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 8:17am On Jun 06, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: That similarity |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by achorladey: 8:19am On Jun 06, 2023 |
Courz: On point. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Maximus692(m): 9:46am On Jun 06, 2023 |
As long as ErnestNc is no longer responding my job is done here. Like Saul he was castigating God's organization based on his own understanding of the scriptures {Act 7:58; 9:1 compare to Galatians 1:13} he called for this and each of you have given your opinion on the matter just as Jews in the first century always call the crowd against true Christians {Act 14:2; Exodus 23:1-2} with all your contribution he must have made up his mind on what to do. One thing that's certain is that there is a great chasm between practicers of pure worship and faithless miscreants {Luke 16:26} though i've talked about it several times on this forum but today i will expatiate for the benefit of honest hearted and sincere individuals who are following this thread. So what exactly is this CHASM set up between practicers of pure worship and faithless miscreants? Well it's the opinion that if God is one then there can't be two different religions worshipping that single God! A person may be a traditionalist, Judaist, Hindu, Muslim or any other religion what Christ sent us to find out are those believing they have the one and only religion approved by God, this are the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} they're ever willing to submit themselves to those taking the lead in pure worship {Hebrews 13:7, 17} so even if everyone thinks they're wrong what matters to them is loyalty to the God of pure worship so they don't practice interfaith (idea that religions are like various roads leading to the same place) they're strictly focused on what they believe. So if anyone doesn't want to hear that one God can't be worshipped in different ways he or she is on one side of the CHASM while the one who strongly believe that there is no other way to worship God except one is on the other side of the CHASM. The five brothers in Jesus' illustration of Lazarus and the rich man is all about different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all agreeing that they're worshipping the same God despite the fact that they're not in agreement. Lazarus simply means individuals who has been loyal to false religions {rich man} going to beg for crumbs falling from their tables of lies while the sours in his body are losses he has incurred due to misdirected zeal. So when such a person now finds pure worship it's like he's dead to all his suffering because God (father Abraham) will bless him so much that the rich man who formerly use to feed this beggar will start to hunger and thirst for him to say something because they will know from the deepest part of their hearts that this person has received talents that's beyond their reach. But instead of them to believe that he has found the way to salvation they will be demanding for supernatural signs {Luke 16:30} but if they don't believe the fine works of faith surely they won't believe even though Max is performing signs in their presence! Luke 16:31 So to ErnestNc who asked go through all the comments on this thread, meditate thoroughly on what each person has been typing, find out where faith is and decide on what to do. God bless you all and may you have PEACE! |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Courz: 9:54am On Jun 06, 2023 |
I think at this point it is safe to say that the Leadership of the Mormon Church (Church of Jesus Christ and Latter day Saints) and the Leadership of Watchtower are very related to themselves and could even be close to one another or The same people running Watchtower are helping to run The Mormons. Two siblings from the same family. Mormons and Watchtower copy each other. Both are Freemason Cults with Freemason Founders with similar religious beliefs but some slight differences. How is it that both of them have the same Sophia Cartoons?  1 Like
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| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Courz: 9:58am On Jun 06, 2023 |
Their websites are created the same way. Right now, Watchtower is pushing for young children as young as 8 years to get baptised with their own Sophia Cartoon about Baptism. But Watchtower lied in public that they don't baptise little children when there are JWs who were baptised that young. Watchtower is pushing to engage the youth because a lot of the youths leave the Cult eventually and they are running out of capable hands to run their franchises /congregations. So, they are indoctrinating Kids so that they use their youth to keep their Business running. JWs are not unique. There are many look alike Cults like Watchtower. 1 Like
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| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Courz: 10:04am On Jun 06, 2023 |
Hmmmm.
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| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Maximus692(m): 10:14am On Jun 06, 2023 |
Meanwhile something happened in Israel just of recent the countries flag was thrown down by a black crow! Judaism and Islam are the two major religions in Israel while different sects claiming Christians are less than 5% of the population so they passed a bill to outlaw anyone who is talked about Jesus saying he is their Messiah. None of these religions have any issue with the flag, national anthem or pledge so they're all on the same page! But Christ taught his own disciples not to allow for discrimination among them, they must love all believers in Christ just as he love them! John 13:34-35 With this command true Christians can't be loyal to Nationalistic movements which often leads to wars and killings {Revelation 6:3-4} the first century Jews believe Romans are their enemies but Jesus commanded his own disciples to love even their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} that's why Israelites hate Christianity till today. Of all the religions claiming Christians now only Jehovah's Witnesses are still practicing what Jesus commanded back then that's why we don't join in Nationalistic movements or politics. The bill to outlaw Christians in Israel wasn't just against churchgoers but against Jehovah's Witnesses who are there because if everyone is a Jehovah's Witnesses nobody will fight their wars. So the crow throwing down their flag is a sign that they're about to touch the servants of the true God in their midst so the flag means nothing to God because it's pure idolatry even though they don't know that's why Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon wanted to kill Shadrach Meshak and Abednego as they refused to salute the image he raised up today it's the flag! |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Courz: 10:19am On Jun 06, 2023 |
Jehovah's witnesses are not aware that the same 144,000 along with Jesus will be the ones to forgive their sins. Remember that all these strange Doctrines are attempts of Watchtower to replace Jesus or take his role in the lives of their members which properly identifies them as Antichrists. Remember also during the time of Joseph Rutherford, they taught that The Christ is made up of Jesus and the 144,000. Remember also that JWs are taught today that they must follow and obey the Anointed in order to get Salvation. They must also be close to them so as to get benefits from the Sacrifice of Jesus. Remember, also when Jesus specifically warned against False prophets who will claim that they are Christ. This video below points to JW publications that talk about the above strange Doctrines of JWs. I never knew that they also taught that the 144,000 will forgive the sins of JWs. If this isn't blasphemy, I don't know what else to call it. Full blown Antichrists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnF88MZXH7M |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by ErnestNc: 1:52pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
Maximus692: I haven't decided anything sir but I just chose not to engage in baseless arguments which setttles nothing. My original post is my unwavering opinion . I strongly detest false doctrines and the spirit of God bears witness within me when I hear something false even with individuals outside the sphere of religion. The only thing I have against JWs is their multiple false doctrines and one is their unconscious effort to debase the person of Jesus by relegating him to being just an ordinary being or an angel when it was made clear through John's testimony in the scriptures, that all things were made by him (John1) and his preincarnate form was the WORD in the beginning and not an angelic being. Secondly, y'all deny the power of God and the grace of God which is the spirit of God indwelling in a man. You deny that the Holy spirit can speak to us and guide us , instead you call it spiritism and the voice of Satan. You deny anything that has to do with the holy spirit. You alienate yourselves from the kingdom(influence) of God , saying that you can't be born again because you're not worthy of God's sacrifice. Meanwhile Jesus said he that is thirsty should come and he will give him life (the spirit of God). I will never engage anyone of you JW's in baseless arguments because it's not worth it. Just as Muslims believe in Mohammed, you disbelieve in the Spirit of God and say it's the right way of life. Hence, I cannot disillusion you, neither will I persuade you. If you still think Jesus's preincarnate form is not the WORD OF GOD but angel Michael, I shake my head in pity and agony for you because your redemption O' SON OF MAN, IS FAR! 1 Like |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Maximus692(m): 2:29pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
Thanks for your time, it's a pleasure chatting with you. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and our teachings is the ultimate in our hearts as no other teachings succeeded in achieving the will of God as recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 "In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore" That's what God wants for mankind and Jesus is the only counselor {Isaiah 9:6} through whose teachings mankind can meet up with this task. So if anyone claims he knows God but failed to be part of those preaching zealously and industriously teaching in his neighbourhood to achieve this then we believe that all his claims and beliefs are trash! Matthew 7:21-23 So once again thanks for your time. May you have PEACE! ErnestNc: 1 Like |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by delkuf(m): 8:29pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
AkinwaleJJ:guy park well. Which one be preaching or teaching. E dey una booklet, so una believe say angel Michael na the Lord Jesus Christ. So you guys agent of the devil 1 Like |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Janosky: 8:58pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
delkuf:You are indeed the devil's agent, his errand boy making fictitious claim. |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Janosky: 9:06pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
ErnestNc: Matthew 20:28 Jesus Christ himself confessed he is a ministering angel. Hebrews 1:14 & Matthew 20:28 confirmed Jesus Christ is a ministering spirit-( angel in human form) No angel is ordinary,no angel be your mate. Oga, which angel of God you get power pass? Live with this truth and STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF. |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Janosky: 9:25pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
ErnestNc:Jesus Christ says the holy spirit is God's finger. Oga, does God's finger speak to you? With which mouth? Oga, Hebrews 1:1-2 says carry your spiritism outta here. You are hearing the voice of demons. Rather you are against Hebrews 1:1-2 as well as making fictitious claims. ErnestNc: Jesus Christ is the Word , because he is the spokesman of God,his Father- John 7:16 & Hebrews 1:1-2. Jesus Christ has other names and titles in your Bible, (Malachi 3:1 , Amplified Bible (Bible gateway website) .The commander of Jehovah's army, Joshua 5:12-14 (find out numerous Bible commentaries of your fellow Trinitarians on Joshua 5:12-14 & cure your delusion . Joshua 5:12-14= Matthew 25:31, Daniel 10:13, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9. Rev 12:7-9.).The lamb of God, John 1:29,49 etc. Oga, cure your DELUSION read the screenshot of & Genesis 16:7 PROVEN by your fellow Trinitarians.
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| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by ErnestNc: 9:48pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
Janosky: This is proof that you don't understand Hebrews 1. Because Hebrews 1 means that Jesus Christ/The spirit of the son is now the Voice of God and not just prophets . Jesus Christ is the Word , because he is the spokesman of God,his Father- John 7:16 & Hebrews 1:1-2. You're a fool as the scriptures declares. Please show me where in the bible that says Jesus Christ was an angel ? The commander of Jehovah's army, Joshua 5:12-14 (find out numerous Bible commentaries of your fellow Trinitarians on Joshua 5:12-14 & cure your delusion What does Lamb of God means? Does it not indicate that Jesus Christ in human form is God's sacrifice for the atonement of the soul? You're just a foolish zombie. |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by ErnestNc: 9:50pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
Janosky: I can see where delusions begin. Please what's the meaning of Ministry ? Did Paul not say we are all ministers of the new covenant? Please believe in what you want. You worship angels , and fallen angels at that. Your arguments are baseless and stvpid You speak like this because you are under the tutelage and leadership of the antichrist. I won't respond to you anymore. You're unreasonable and you lack coordination. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Janosky: 10:13pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
ErnestNc: Hebrews 1:1-2 & Acts 2:22-23,26 is truth in your Bible. Acts 2:22-23,26, Peter the apostle says Jesus Christ is a prophet ,Oga do you love this truth? ErnestNc:Jesus Christ is a Minister & spirit his Father sent from heaven to minister, according to Jesus @ John 7:16 & Matthew 20:28 & Paul the apostle @ Hebrews 1:14. A minister is a messenger, angel. Use the screenshot PROVEN evidences "aggelos" to cure your DELUSION. Oga RECEIVE SENSE. ErnestNc:Yes, Jesus the Lamb of God.. Jesus is also a prophet,Acts 3:22-23. Jesus is also an apostle. ErnestNc: Oga, you are insulting yourself. Your four fingers are pointing back at you. 1 Like
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| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by ErnestNc: 10:57pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
Janosky: Who doesn't know that Jesus is a prophet and an apostle of God? HBut how does Jesus being a prophet affect your salvation? It's not effective except Jesus is Christ. Only the Christ saves not an angel, nor prophet or an apostle. An angel is a messanger of God , yes , We are all messangers/ministers of the new covenant so does that makes us angels of God in our preincarnate forms? Do you see how gullible and crazy u sound? Antichrist pls Rest in Jesus mighty name. Satan must be proud of you indeed. "Preach Jesus by all means , but let people know that he isn't the Christ but the angel Michael is the Christ . Tell them that he didn't create the world and he's not one with God. Make people believe they can't have access to God even after the sacrifice of Jesus. Let them know that it's not possible to have fellowship with the spirit of God and commune with God . " Satan's doctrine to your damned soul. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Courz: 11:56pm On Jun 06, 2023 |
A video on How to recognise Witchcraft Control in the Church. JW Cult fits the description to the T. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wba0q_4_j4I |
| Re: Who Told Jws That Jesus Is The Arch Angel Michael? by Maximus692(m): 3:38am On Jun 07, 2023 |
delkuf: So where in the Bible did Jesus say it's by beliefs that you can identify agents of the devil? Ọmọ beliefs are based on teachings and there are lots and lots of contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines in Christendom. Just two out of all the sects claiming Christians don't have the same doctrine that's why Jesus never emphasized on doctrines when talking about how to identify agents of darkness. This is what Jesus said: "Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:15-18 So Mr park well, Jesus didn't say it's by teachings but by their fruits, only Jehovah's Witnesses are producing the fruit which is what Jesus and his disciples were known doing in the first century: preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighborhood! Act 11:26 If you want to talk about TEACHINGS find just two sects teaching exactly the same thing then explain why they're pitching tents separately!  |
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