Janosky:

Hebrews 1:1-2 & Acts 2:22-23,26 is truth in your Bible. Acts 2:22-23,26, Peter the apostle says Jesus Christ is a prophet ,Oga do you love this truth?
Jesus Christ is a Minister & spirit his Father sent from heaven to minister, according to Jesus @ John 7:16 & Matthew 20:28 & Paul the apostle @ Hebrews 1:14.
A minister is a messenger, angel.
Use the screenshot PROVEN evidences "aggelos" to cure your DELUSION.
Oga RECEIVE SENSE.
Yes, Jesus the Lamb of God..
Jesus is also a prophet,Acts 3:22-23.
Jesus is also an apostle.
Oga, you are insulting yourself.
Your four fingers are pointing back at you.

My brother they're terrified because they all know that only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will so they're looking for ways to accuse God's people!

If they know the true identify of Jesus and they are sure he is not the archangel Michael who is leading God's people {Daniel 12:1-3} hen let them go and do God's will nah, all eyes are watching!

The prospect God has for mankind is Paradise on Earth {Psalm 37:9-11, 29} so faithful people are going to form one big and happy family of peach loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} and Jesus is the wonderful counselor {Isaiah 9:6} through whose teaching this will become a reality! Mark 10:28-30

Hen let them prove their FAITH by WORKS {James 2:18-26} that they know Jesus better than Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization of imperfect humans working towards God's plan.

At least all of them are claiming Christians and born again while Jehovah's Witnesses separated ourselves from them {Revelation 18:4} none of them can say his or her families in the faith aren't participating in the ongoing killings in Russia and Ukraine {Revelation 6:3-4} but we can boldly, confidently and boastfully say before anyone that not a single disciple of Christ Jesus is raising weapons against people in Russia and Ukraine {Matthew 26:52} because Jesus has commanded {Matthew 28:20} and his brothers (Born Again Christians) have taught us how to love our enemies even though they hate us {Matthew 5:43-48} how to love our neighbors as ourselves {Mark 12:31} and why we must be prepared to die for our fellow believers if the need arises just as Jesus did for us! John 13:34-35

So if they can't prove any of these it simply means they've been silenced as none of the missiles Satan gave them can harm our faith in Christ Jesus {Isaiah 54:17} it's needless arguing with them {Titus 3:9} it's obvious today those worshipping the true God of LOVE {1John 4:7-8} and those lying to their own souls! Malachi 3:18

Maximus692:


"Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:15-18

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at



lost false jw mad max

yes by your fruits we recognise you:

you false prophets are not only known by your false prophecies, but also by
your fruits of lying, paranoia, and blasphemy, saying the Holy Spirit told you things that we know to be lies etc.

lying:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

fearful paranoia:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

blasphemy:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.

johnw47:

yes by your fruits we recognise you:

Ọ̀DẸ̀!
If it's by prophecies then all your religions are FAKE because all of them have prophesied one way or another and it has failed.
So mumu its not about their prophecies but their fruits that is what their members in the community are known for.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are actively preaching and teaching just like Jesus and his first century followers that's why they were called "CHRISTIANS" because they were going about doing what Jesus commanded! Matthew 28:19-20

Maximus692:

Ọ̀DẸ̀!
mumu

lost false jw mad max

truly, you most dum false jw's/false prophets are also known by your fruits of lying, paranoia, and blasphemy, saying the Holy Spirit told you things that we know to be lies, etc.

lies:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

fearful paranoia:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

blasphemy:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.


false jw org. false prophets, by your fruits we certainly recognise you:
"Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:15-18

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

This idiot is seeking attention!

johnw47:



lost false jw mad max

truly, you most dum false jw's/false prophets are also known by your fruits of lying, paranoia, and blasphemy, saying the Holy Spirit told you things that we know to be lies, etc.

lies:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

fearful paranoia:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

blasphemy:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.


false jw org. false prophets, by your fruits we certainly recognise you:
"Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:15-18

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Maximus692:
This idiot is seeking attention!

lost false jw mad max

you are yet again reduced to a mumbling dope, aren't you oh false jw weakie

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Janosky:

Tire for your DELUSION.
Let's reason on the holy scriptures......
Who is the serpent of Genesis 3:15?
Revelation 12:7-9 is the answer.
Who is the seed of Genesis 3:15 that defeated the serpent?
Revelation 12:7-9 & 1 John 3:8 is the answer.
Archangel Michael leads angels in battle, Daniel 10:13.
Who is leading angels in battle?
Matthew 25:31,2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 & 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is the answer.
In your Bible, Paul has more than one name.
Peter has more than one name.
Jesus Christ has more than one name.
Go & figure this out & have peace.

Yeah "Jesus" was the name specifically given to him (Michael) at birth on earth because of the mission he came to do.
So Jesus had a different name before he came to earth.

Hebrews 1:5 NlV
[5]For God never said to any angel what he said to Jesus:
“You are my Son.
    Today I have become your Father.”God also said,
“I will be his Father,
    and he will be my Son.”
At some point, God chose Jesus to be his son. Okay.

Hebrews 1:9 KJV
[9]Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

God also anointed Jesus (Michael) above his fellows?
Please someone from Christendom should tell us who Jesus's fellows were
Not the angels?

Hebrews 1:4 KJV
[4]Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

So Jesus was made better than the angels. That means Jesus was not in the category of the other angels. He's greater than them. Logically, he could be called an archangel 'cause an archangel is undoubtedly greater than normal angels. Cool.
Also, we see that God made him so.
So can Jesus be equal to God

Jesus is sure greater than the angel but he will never be equal to God, hence, trinity is trash.

In a nutshell, there are enough clues to believe that Jesus is archangel Michael.

All these people parading themselves as Christians are really foolish. If only they could humble themselves and learn.
Their brains have been critically infested with catholic dogmas that they couldn't not see the TRUTH even when they see it.

Maximus692

cornelboy:

Yeah "Jesus" was the name specifically given to him (Michael) at birth on earth because of the mission he came to do.
So Jesus had a different name before he came to earth.

Hebrews 1:5 NlV
[5]For God never said to any angel what he said to Jesus:
“You are my Son.
    Today I have become your Father.”God also said,
“I will be his Father,
    and he will be my Son.”
At some point, God chose Jesus to be his son. Okay.

Hebrews 1:9 KJV
[9]Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

God also anointed Jesus (Michael) above his fellows?
Please someone from Christendom should tell us who Jesus's fellows were
Not the angels?

Hebrews 1:4 KJV
[4]Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

So Jesus was made better than the angels. That means Jesus was not in the category of the other angels. He's greater than them. Logically, he could be called an archangel 'cause an archangel is undoubtedly greater than normal angels. Cool.
Also, we see that God made him so.
So can Jesus be equal to God

Jesus is sure greater than the angel but he will never be equal to God, hence, trinity is trash.

In a nutshell, there are enough clues to believe that Jesus is archangel Michael.

All these people parading themselves as Christians are really foolish. If only they could humble themselves and learn.
Their brains have been critically infested with catholic dogmas that they couldn't not see the TRUTH even when they see it.

Maximus692

@Hebrew 1:4
Jesus even obtained an excellent name than the angel. He obtained it.
Is that someone you even call God or equal to God almighty 🤦🏾‍♂️

cornelboy:

Hebrews 1:9 KJV
[9]Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

God also anointed Jesus (Michael) above his fellows?
Please someone from Christendom should tell us who Jesus's fellows were
Not the angels?

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


God clearly shows that Jesus was not a angel;

Heb 1:5  For to which of the angels did He ever say, "YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU"? And again, "I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME"? 
Heb 1:6  And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, "AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM." 
Heb 1:7  And of the angels He says, "WHO MAKES HIS ANGELS WINDS, AND HIS MINISTERS A FLAME OF FIRE." 
Heb 1:8  But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM. 
Heb 1:9  "YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS." 
Heb 1:10  And, "YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS; 
Heb 1:11  THEY WILL PERISH, BUT YOU REMAIN; AND THEY ALL WILL BECOME OLD LIKE A GARMENT, 
Heb 1:12  AND LIKE A MANTLE YOU WILL ROLL THEM UP; LIKE A GARMENT THEY WILL ALSO BE CHANGED. BUT YOU ARE THE SAME, AND YOUR YEARS WILL NOT COME TO AN END." 
Heb 1:13  But to which of the angels has He ever said, "SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET"? 
Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation? 


Jesus fellows are his apostles and disciples (Christians):

Heb 2:11  For both He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 

1Jn 1:3  what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.
 


God Himself made believers fellows with Jesus:

1Co 1:9  God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

God Himself anointed Jesus above His fellows:

Heb 1:9  "YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR FELLOWS."




and you are right in not considering so called Jehovah's witnesses part of Christendom:

Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.

cornelboy:

@Hebrew 1:4
Jesus even obtained an excellent name than the angel. He obtained it.
Is that someone you even call God or equal to God almighty 🤦🏾‍♂️

My brother Cornelboy!

Where have you been all these while?

I changed my mobile device the former one had technical issues so i lost most contacts otherwise i would have called you, please send me a message tomorrow if you still have my contact but if not then DM me through my Gmail!

johnw47:

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool
God clearly shows that Jesus was not a angel;
Heb 1:5  For to which of the angels did He ever say, "YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU"? And again, "I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME"? 
Heb 1:6  And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, "AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM." 
Heb 1:7  And of the angels He says, "WHO MAKES HIS ANGELS WINDS, AND HIS MINISTERS A FLAME OF FIRE." 
Heb 1:8  But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM. 
Heb 1:9  "YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS." 
Heb 1:10  And, "YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS; 
Heb 1:11  THEY WILL PERISH, BUT YOU REMAIN; AND THEY ALL WILL BECOME OLD LIKE A GARMENT, 
Heb 1:12  AND LIKE A MANTLE YOU WILL ROLL THEM UP; LIKE A GARMENT THEY WILL ALSO BE CHANGED. BUT YOU ARE THE SAME, AND YOUR YEARS WILL NOT COME TO AN END." 
Heb 1:13  But to which of the angels has He ever said, "SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET"? 
Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation? 
Heb 2:11  For both He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 
1Jn 1:3  what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.
God Himself made believers fellows with Jesus:
1Co 1:9  God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
God Himself anointed Jesus above His fellows:
Heb 1:9  "YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR FELLOWS."
and you are right in not considering so called Jehovah's witnesses part of Christendom:
Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.

Lol that event took place in heaven.
His fellows were the angels.

Jesus was anointed by God..
He obtained a name..
God appointed him to be his son..

Jesus is clearly a lesser being to God.

The clues we see point that Jesus identity before he came to the world was being the archangel Michael.

MaxInDHouse:

My brother Cornelboy!
Where have you been all these while?
I changed my mobile device the former one had technical issues so i lost most contacts otherwise i would have called you, please send me a message tomorrow if you still have my contact but if not then DM me through my Gmail!

I've been around sir but not active on Nairaland.
Hope you're fairing well sir?

I have your contact. I will message you.
I'm still studying. And I attend weekly meetings on zoom

cornelboy:

I've been around sir but not active on Nairaland.
Hope you're fairing well sir?
I have your contact. I will message you.
I'm still studying. And I attend weekly meetings on zoom

Don't you have any closeby meeting where you can attend imperson with brothers and sisters?

I'm really worried with the highlighted please find a way to start attending imperson meetings we are already living in the last of the last days and everything is happening really fast these days so we don't know what next will happen but we're sure God's kingdom is closer than ever before!

So my brother there are lots of new info we're getting now that only those attending imperson meetings are getting therefore make sure you have someone (trusted) closeby who will always update you on the latest info after the imperson meetings.

With love from your brother Maximus!

cornelboy:
Lol that event took place in heaven.
His fellows were the angels.

I do say that the problem you people have with the scripture is the inability to distinguish between when the scripture speaks about Jesus becomes part of creation and before becoming part of creation.

Jesus was anointed by God..
He obtained a name..
God appointed him to be his son..

Yes! That was when He became part of creation.

Now, pay attention to that @underlined because your mouth will soon change.

From that @underlined it shows that you have the understanding that Jesus was never A SON from beginning but was MADE A SON at a point.

Jesus is clearly a lesser being to God.

Yes! When He became part of creation.

The clues we see point that Jesus identity before he came to the world was being the archangel Michael.

No! Jesus was never addressed as Angel Michael nor any verse supported it (you provide the verse here if I'm wrong). Rather, the scripture says Jesus is the Creator.

cornelboy:

Lol that event took place in heaven.
His fellows were the angels.
Jesus was anointed by God..
He obtained a name..
God appointed him to be his son..
Jesus is clearly a lesser being to God.
The clues we see point that Jesus identity before he came to the world was being the archangel Michael.

most dum confused and blinded corny

of course you neither believe or understand God's word showing clearly that Jesus was never an angel

and my post wasn't about Jesus being a greater being to God oh dummy

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

johnw47:


most dum confused and blinded corny

of course you neither believe or understand God's word showing clearly that Jesus was never an angel

and my post wasn't about Jesus being a greater being to God oh dummy

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Okay

johnw47:


most dum confused and blinded corny

of course you neither believe or understand God's word showing clearly that Jesus was never an angel

and my post wasn't about Jesus being a greater being to God oh dummy

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Matthew 20:28 & John 7:16,was Jesus sent to minister?
Carry your GIBBERISH outta here.

Attention seeking WAILER

Emusan:


I do say that the problem you people have with the scripture is the inability to distinguish between when the scripture speaks about Jesus becomes part of creation and before becoming part of creation.
Yes! That was when He became part of creation.
Now, pay attention to that @underlined because your mouth will soon change.
From that @underlined it shows that you have the understanding that Jesus was never A SON from beginning but was MADE A SON at a point.
Yes! When He became part of creation.
No! Jesus was never addressed as Angel Michael nor any verse supported it (you provide the verse here if I'm wrong). Rather, the scripture says Jesus is the Creator.

Lol. When was he not part of creation?

According to the chapter, we see that at a point, he wasn't appointed as God's son yet. Then God appointed him.
So before God appointed him, what was he?

Isn't becoming God's son a privilege and promotion to Jesus

MaxInDHouse:


Don't you have any closeby meeting where you can attend imperson with brothers and sisters?

I'm really worried with the highlighted please find a way to start attending imperson meetings we are already living in the last of the last days and everything is happening really fast these days so we don't know what next will happen but we're sure God's kingdom is closer than ever before!

So my brother there are lots of new info we're getting now that only those attending imperson meetings are getting therefore make sure you have someone (trusted) closeby who will always update you on the latest info after the imperson meetings.

With love from your brother Maximus!

Thanks for your concern Sir.
I'll find a place when I move osun state around October.
I'll call you and explain better.

cornelboy:
Lol. When was he not part of creation?

He was not part of creation until He became man.

According to the chapter, we see that at a point, he wasn't appointed as God's son yet. Then God appointed him.

Which means He was not SON until that time God appointed Him. Do you agree?

So before God appointed him, what was he?

He was God who created the universe.

Isn't becoming God's son a privilege and promotion to Jesus

No! It's a delight He has towards His own creation!

Emusan:

He was not part of creation until He became man.
Which means He was not SON until that time God appointed Him. Do you agree?
He was God who created the universe.
No! It's a delight He has towards His own creation!

Hebrews 1:2
[2]And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.

God created the universe through the son, and you say "Jesus was God who created the universe"?

Now you're contradicting the Bible. That place is clear enough.
God was the creator who created the universe through his son. We can say God used his son, Jesus to create everything.

It's like when you hire a construction company to build a building for you. You built that building through the construction company. It's still you cause you provided all the resources.

Actually, according to the Hebrew verse where God appointed Jesus as his son, the event took place in heaven. Probably before the world was even created.

At verse 4 Hebrew chapter 1, Jesus is made more better than the angels, does that mean he's equal to God?

Think think think 🤡🤡🤡🤡

cornelboy:
Hebrews 1:2
[2]And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.

God created the universe through the son, and you say "Jesus was God who created the universe"?

This is very laughable!

So was Jesus involved in CREATION OR NOT?

Now you're contradicting the Bible. That place is clear enough.
God was the creator who created the universe through his son. We can say God used his son, Jesus to create everything.

You're the very one who is contradicting yourself.

How can God USED Jesus and Jesus isn't the Creator?

Now, from Genesis creation account where does God used anybody?

God only SPOKE the scripture says IT WAS SO!

Proverbs 8: 22-36 talk about how God carried out the Creation By HIMSELF.

In Isaiah God says He created everything ALL BY HIMSELF.

Are all these verses lying?

It's like when you hire a construction company to build a building for you. You built that building through the construction company. It's still you cause you provided all the resources.

That's not the situation.

As An Engineer I have never seen where any Client claimed HE BUILDS THE STRUCTURE BY HIMSELF/HERSELF.

Many Bible verses show God created the universe ALL BY HIMSELF, God can't be lying!

Actually, according to the Hebrew verse where God appointed Jesus as his son, the event took place in heaven. Probably before the world was even created.

I know you will soon start changing mouth.

The event in Heb 1 is all about the coming of the Son INTO THE WORLD. come with another lie.

At verse 4 Hebrew chapter 1, Jesus is made more better than the angels, does that mean he's equal to God?

Remember He became part of creation.

Is He not the Only highest ranking Angel which is next to Jehovah according to Watchtower? So why must He be MADE BETTER THAN THE ANGELS again when He is already higher than ANY ANGELS?

Think think think 🤡🤡🤡🤡

I do! Do you?

Emusan:


This is very laughable!

So was Jesus involved in CREATION OR NOT?



You're the very one who is contradicting yourself.

How can God USED Jesus and Jesus isn't the Creator?

Now, from Genesis creation account where does God used anybody?

God only SPOKE the scripture says IT WAS SO!

Proverbs 8: 22-36 talk about how God carried out the Creation By HIMSELF.

In Isaiah God says He created everything ALL BY HIMSELF.

Are all these verses lying?



That's not the situation.

As An Engineer I have never seen where any Client claimed HE BUILDS THE STRUCTURE BY HIMSELF/HERSELF.

Many Bible verses show God created the universe ALL BY HIMSELF, God can't be lying!



I know you will soon start changing mouth.

The event in Heb 1 is all about the coming of the Son INTO THE WORLD. come with another lie.



Remember He became part of creation.

Is He not the Only highest ranking Angel which is next to Jehovah according to Watchtower? So why must He be MADE BETTER THAN THE ANGELS again when He is already higher than ANY ANGELS?



I do! Do you?

Okay

cornelboy:

Thanks for your concern Sir. I'll find a place when I move osun state around October. I'll call you and explain better.

I will love to see you grow in the faith!

cornelboy:

Okay

I have decided to avoid fruitless arguments since i now have many looking up to me on the forum for enlightenment so instead of waisting my precious time with argumentators i ignore them! Titus 3:9

MaxInDHouse:

I have decided to avoid fruitless arguments since i now have many looking up to me on the forum for enlightenment so instead of waisting my precious time with argumentators i ignore them! Titus 3:9

I don't do that either.
I don't really have the time

MaxInDHouse:

I will love to see you grow in the faith!

Thanks you sir haha. There are a lot of challenges. Jah will help me through 🙂

cornelboy:

Thanks you sir haha. There are a lot of challenges. Jah will help me through 🙂

That's exactly what all of us are going through in this last days! 1Peter 5:9

Janosky:
Matthew 20:28 & John 7:16,was Jesus sent to minister?
Carry your GIBBERISH outta here.
Attention seeking WAILER

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

u can never stop lying, of course:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.




Mat 20:28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."

to false jw's, Jesus came to serve makes Him an angel, so dum

Joh 7:16 So Jesus answered them and said, "My teaching is not Mine, but His who sent Me.

to false jw's, Jesus teachings are His Father's who sent Him, so that makes Him an angel, so dum


Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 

Father created nothng except by the Word who became Jesus the man, showing that God's Word was not created
the Word/Jesus created the angels and all that was created


u dum false jw's r confused and blinded, of course:


1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them


not all God's messengers are angelic beings, most dum false jw
for instance the prophets were men not angels

cornelboy:

Hebrews 1:9 KJV
[9]Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

God also anointed Jesus (Michael) above his fellows?
Please someone from Christendom should tell us who Jesus's fellows were
Not the angels?

cornelboy:


Lol that event took place in heaven.
His fellows were the angels.
Jesus was anointed by God..
He obtained a name..

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


corny

Jesus loved the righteousness and hated the iniquity's on earth
and God anointed Him above his fellows: apostles and disciples (believers)

Luk 4:18  "THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED,

Jesus inherited a much better name than the angels heb 1:4
^^ showing that Jesus is not the same as angels but above them, The Word/Jesus, Son of God is of the same Spirit as God naturally, and as john 1:1 + shows
He is not the same spirit as angels are, He made the angels , they are not begat by



Heb 1:9  "YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS." 
Heb 1:10  And, "YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;

^^ God talks about Jesus on earth loving righteousness etc.
and then goes back to when the Word/Jesus created the earth

johnw47:



Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


corny

Jesus loved the righteousness and hated the iniquity's on earth
and God anointed Him above his fellows: apostles and disciples (believers)

Luk 4:18  "THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED,

Jesus inherited a much better name than the angels heb 1:4
^^ showing that Jesus is not the same as angels but above them, The Word/Jesus, Son of God is of the same Spirit as God naturally, and as john 1:1 + shows
He is not the same spirit as angels are, He made the angels , they are not begat by



Heb 1:9  "YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS." 
Heb 1:10  And, "YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;

^^ God talks about Jesus on earth loving righteousness etc.
and then goes back to when the Word/Jesus created the earth

It's well

cornelboy:
It's well

yes it is, not for you though posting lies