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Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by descarado: 11:15am On Sep 06, 2023
obailala:
unfortunately, I don't see OBI having a chance in a rerun or even a run-off. In a rerun, the powers that be wouldn't make the mistake of underrating him; they'd deploy unimaginable violence and rigging to ensure he doesnt even get up to half the votes he got before. In a run-off, it would even be worse if OBI is to run head-to-head with the other top candidates. Even if a run-off is conducted between OBI vs Kwankwaso, the entire rigging mechanism of APC and PDP would back Kwankwaso.

Only chance of OBI being president is if the tribunal outright declares him the winner of the Feb 25th election (which would be nothing short of a massive miracle). I believe in miracles though!
Do you live in Nigeria, my gut tell me you don't.
I may be wrong.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by kayusely70(m): 11:19am On Sep 06, 2023
NOwazobia:
They won't be declaring anything from the usual.

Tinubu will complete his term, but it is unfortunate.

I think many of us already know this, except we just want to live in delusion.


It is what it is, and I am not sad about it, just feeling as always.


I was never a big fan of Obi, and was never a fan of Tinubu, and I, neither my family or my generation unborn will protest for a politician.
You've spoken very well and reasonably too![color=#006600][/color]
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by obailala(m): 11:21am On Sep 06, 2023
descarado:

Do you live in Nigeria, my gut tell me you don't.
I may be wrong.
Why do you ask?... I'm not in Nigeria at the moment.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by descarado: 11:22am On Sep 06, 2023
obailala:
Why do you ask?... I'm not in Nigeria at the moment.
Posts of people living outside the shores of Nigeria seem quite diff. Not all though
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by obailala(m): 11:24am On Sep 06, 2023
descarado:

Posts of people living outside the shores of Nigeria seem quite diff. Not all though
Not sure I understand; how is what I said different? I only just spoke my genuine thoughts based on my analysis and understanding.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by descarado: 11:25am On Sep 06, 2023
obailala:
Not sure I understand; how is what I said different? I only just spoke my genuine thoughts based on my analysis and understanding.
OK. Sorry for asking.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by Christistruth03: 11:29am On Sep 06, 2023
grin
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by obailala(m): 11:31am On Sep 06, 2023
descarado:

OK. Sorry for asking.
I'm not taking any offense, I'm just curious why you asked.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by agabusta: 2:32pm On Sep 06, 2023
obailala:
I'm not giving myself any false hope cos everyone already knows the Nigerian system is desperately corrupt and rigged to favour the highest bidder. So I'm not giving myself any hope here; I'm only just stating what is a clear fact and what the outcome should be had Nigeria been a society that reveres the rule of law. This issue is only being debated cos we're in Nigeria where anything goes...

All the legal examples you gave cited Section 299 of the constitution which happens to be a general provision. But Section 134(2) which mentions "...AND FCT..." is a specific provision specifically guiding presidential elections. I'm not a lawyer but one thing I know for certain is that general provision cannot supersede or override a specific provision.

Even Tinubu's camp knows the 25% provision to be a problem, reason why Tinubu had to warn the PEPT that overturning an election just cos of the FCT 25% clause could plunge the nation to anarchy; what he basically implied there is that "Yes the full requirements were not met, but for the sake of avoiding anarchy, let's overlook this minor issue." It's up to the courts to tell us whether emotions and subtle threats supersede the constitution.

25% votes in FCT in the mud as I told you. cheesy
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by obailala(m): 3:07pm On Sep 06, 2023
agabusta:


25% votes in FCT in the mud as I told you. cheesy
Like I said before, throwing out the entire petition one by one on flimsy excuses doesnt necessarily make it right. It was exactly as expected cos this is Nigeria where the 'Nigerian Factor' supersedes the rule of law. The 'Nigerian Factor' is the reason its impossible for courts to remove a sitting president, not necessarily cos the president got there legally. The Nigerian factor is the reason Tinubu and the APC camp has been totally unperturbed by all the petitions all these while; they know that they have the system 100% in their grasp.

After all isn't it the same country where a senate president who didnt even contest primaries was declared the rightful senatorial candidate in the election? Make una enjoy una lawless country abeg!
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by agabusta: 3:49pm On Sep 06, 2023
obailala:
Like I said before, throwing out the entire petition one by one on flimsy excuses doesnt necessarily make it right. It was exactly as expected cos this is Nigeria where the 'Nigerian Factor' supersedes the rule of law. The 'Nigerian Factor' is the reason its impossible for courts to remove a sitting president, not necessarily cos the president got there legally. The Nigerian factor is the reason Tinubu and the APC camp has been totally unperturbed by all the petitions all these while; they know that they have the system 100% in their grasp.

After all isn't it the same country where a senate president who didnt even contest primaries was declared the rightful senatorial candidate in the election? Make una enjoy una lawless country abeg!


It is a fact that Peter Obi's case is watery. There is no way a Presidential election can be overturned on such a watery case, it is an invitation to anarchy. If tables were turned, same will apply. If it was Peter Obi that won the election and APC is approaching the court to overturn the victory on the basis of not scoring 25% in FCT, Peter Obi's supporters would have cried foul.

The 25% issue in the FCT does not make any logical sense if one looks at it dispassionately. It doesn't make any sense at all. Looking at it logically, it defies any objectivity and even looking at it semantic wise, it is still subjective and can be explained both ways. But you cannot interpret a law only on how the grammar was constructed alone especially where there is controversy. Other points will have to be put into consideration in such a scenario.

I have since moved on when I saw that there was no hard evidence that he won the election. I initially thought he was robbed as well, but weeks after when there was no clear cut evidence that he won and was robbed except for Rivers state, which can still not change the outcome of the entire process, I moved on. I even took my time to check the IREV results of the polling units around me that I wrote down their results down during the election and I confirmed them to be accurate.

He and his team didn't do enough work in the SW and the North, and that was the basic reason he lost the election. He couldn't even muster 25% in 24 states (especially the North and the SW) and his votes in the traditional PDP zones were preyed upon by the PDP.

The greedy Atiku contributed to the loss. It was the turn of the South, he should have stepped down and supported Obi. But greed, arrogance and selfishness made him insist on contesting.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Judgement: What Is Your Prediction? by bizzibodi(m): 5:10pm On Sep 06, 2023
I predict that judgement has already been written in favor of d ugliest of them all.

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