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Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by salinco(m): 8:40am On Oct 05, 2007
Al-hamdullilahi for all the beautiful responses from my good brother and sister in Islam may Allah accept from us, all effort of our Ibadah most especially during this special month and period of Ramadan (Lailatu-Qudri).
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 3:41am On Oct 06, 2007
salinco:

Al-hamdullilahi for all the beautiful responses from my good brother and sister in Islam may Allah accept from us, all effort of our Ibadah most especially during this special month and period of Ramadan (Lailatu-Qudri).

allah don sabi Ibadan

please people should keep surveillance on the Churches
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by babs787(m): 6:18pm On Oct 06, 2007
allah don sabi Ibadan

please people should keep surveillance on the Churches


What a waste of time and energy!!! sad sad sad
So Ibadah is Ibadan, ignorance is really a disease. This is a clear evidence
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Iman3(m): 7:01pm On Oct 06, 2007
I love this story:Gulf Muslims get fatter during month of fasting

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L27782637.htm
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 1:04am On Oct 07, 2007
That one no be news now.
You hear them shouting I'm fasting I'm fasting.
They'll wear sack cloths and pour ashes on their heads meanwhile they're chowing down pizza from 6PM to 6 AM.
How won't they gain weight?

Allah is not even deceived.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nushi77: 12:29pm On Oct 07, 2007
The Book of Life


Foreword
My beloved brethren and fellow creatures of God, the time is fulfilled: your salvation is at hand; believe the gospel of the grace of God. Then again, one cannot be made to believe what his conscience has not convicted him to believe: therefore every one, at some point, shall be convicted of the truth. Now is the time when both Jew and Greek, religion and science, though varying, yet unidirectional, merge at their source of light. And for the benefit of the scientific mind, this gospel is written, encompassing the varying perspectives.

What is the Gospel, and what is Truth? Gospel means Good News; and Truth shall unfold in the text. What is the news; and what makes it good? To understand the news, you must first understand Good; and this is the point where science and religion come to meet: the point of light. There is an eternal conscious energy force known to man as God, or Life, whose very core is a glorious light known as Love, and by whom the universe was created; even then this force once laid dormant: and in its dormancy, a negative void known as darkness pervaded space, encircling the atom containing this energy. If the light that is God was darkness; what good is that darkness?

An atomic fission occurred within, (as does the energy known as the Sun), generating a combustive living energy (Exodus 24: 17 and Hebrews 12: 29) known as Consciousness, or Light (thus, When God speaks, man, in his natural sensory, hears thunder): which perception was good. Darkness is a void, and light is a presence: thus in the absence of light, darkness pervades: in the absence of knowledge, ignorance pervades. Upon the emergence of consciousness, awareness came of the depravity of this negative void (Darkness, or, Death); and the process of transforming this negative void into a positive presence became relevant; thus conceiving a formula, which formula became known as The Word.

As was with God in the beginning (Genesis 1: 2), man, the expressive image of God, was encompassed by darkness; but through times have received deliberate flashes of light, giving him some form of hope in what might seem to him as a hopeless and discouraging state of being, yet through which comes wisdom and knowledge. The good news (gospel) is the revelation (unfolding) of those things that have been kept a mystery by design.
Creation is still in the making process: consciousness is still unfolding subconsciously; and all, at their varying appointed times, shall unfold incontrovertibly; acquiring perfect knowledge through experiencing the once unknown. Man can learn nothing except by allowing himself (yet directed by God) to explore consciousness beyond the apprehensive limit of his fear. Being made in the image of God, you cannot limit yourself below that which was set for you: for God found himself by not having inhibitions; in this found he wisdom: attaining true knowledge. Likewise shall all his creatures come to the conscious awareness of their true being: Divine Lights.

Every thing you see (all matter, and all transpirations) has its roots in the unseen world: (as man lives in constant motion in the seen world, so also is his spirit constantly in motion in the unseen world; at point of sleep, he transcends the seen into the unseen: the spirit never sleeps): the forms may change (vary), even as the trees; yet the essence remains the same. All matter originates and exist by virtue of a force: and this force exist out of a conscious (intelligent) energy known to man as God. Consciousness is the bases of all life, and the field of all possibilities; its nature is to unfold exponentially to its fullness: and the attainment of this fullness is the reconciliation of all of its molecules wholly to it (him), the source, even God.

Consciousness (Light) is limitless (unconstrainable); neither is there separation in consciousness, though it takes both the positive and the negative (two separate entities) to manifest it (light): for it is incontrovertible, regardless of how you self-justifyingly slice or dice it: for though malice may attack it, and ignorance may deride it; but in the end, there it is: unequivocal. And because consciousness has been proven, hence belief. It is one thing to believe; it is yet another thing (an experience) to see through the mind’s eye (perceiving beyond the flesh) that which you believe. For you cannot have faith in something non-existent: you have true faith only because that which you believe has been proven. It costs nothing to move from faith to sight: yet it is priceless to see, perceptively, the unseen.

All things you see, perceive, and believe, are limitable: these limitations are governed by emotional variableness (fear), prevalent due to an awareness of the unseen (unknown) world; preventing you from exploring consciousness beyond the apprehensive limit of fear.
Apprehensive limits serve as a gauge, a deterrent, and a test; yet implied by the prejudices of tradition (one’s social environment). And this emotional variableness known as Fear causes you to be apprehensive of the immutably pure and endearing emotion known as Love, which energy is emitted from the source of consciousness.

All feelings (emotional states) are transmittable (influential), being inter-connected: one’s emotional state is simply an extension of another’s; as emotional current flows through each and every element, all being filaments (reactors) of electrical current; and being a strand in this filament-web, the current that runs through the filament affects each strand equally, yet at varying times, according to the directional flow of current (energy). And this energy emanates from the source, which source is God, even as the brain sends signals through the nerves to all parts of the body. Therefore there is no Self, but a conglomerate of multifaceted molecules: filaments.

Find freedom in learning that the elements that surround you (in both realms), and the way in which they affect your outer being, are set up to refine your inner being (the true you) into a perfect holy spirit-being (Holy Ghost). Fear comes through ignorance; but in discerning the timeline (time allotment) of the outer being, and the timelessness (eternalness) of the inner being, fear then is excommunicated. For once all matter (outer beings) become extinct, then death (time limiter: constrainer) becomes powerless: destroyed.

But then, due to the bondage of fear, (as fear is the catalyst of self), man strives with himself against the freedom to learn that of which he is. To which I ask: Do you stop for a minute to wonder within if that which you suppose you know is the fullest knowledge: the end of all learning? For if it was, you would know the mystery of God, which obviously has remained veiled to man by divine design; to be revealed as denoted in Revelation 10: 7 and 3: 17-20, and in both the Qu’ran and the Torah. True knowledge is to recognize the extent of one’s own ignorance: for until you become reconciled to the source of consciousness, you know only that which was allowed you: (see Job 38: 11, 28: 21, and 11: 6-12). You do not know what you need not know; but at each appointed time you shall know what you need to know, as there is a preordained time for all things. To a simplified (humble) living, the law of the universe has no bearing.
As to the unfolding of the divine mysteries, the power and the wisdom of God, discern its relativity to the first and to the last comings: for thus it is written, Unto all who are called, Jews (at the first) and Greeks (the West, at the last), is Christ the power of God (at the first), and the wisdom of God (at the last: In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge). For the Jews (at the first) require a sign (hence the miracles), and the Greeks (the West) seek after wisdom (practical discernment: scientific relativity): but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling-block, and to the Greeks foolishness (supposing to know, yet reveling in ignorance).

The birth of man is the beginning of his sorrows, as he enters a world of delusion. The longer he lives in it, the more deluded he becomes, as his anxiety to avoid unavoidable death becomes more and more acute: thus he invents age-defying processes, anxiously reaching for that which is out of reach: when all he has to do is be. His thirst for survival in the future makes him incapable of living in the present: thus he says to the Holy Spirit who is directing his life’s steps, “Not now, I am busy”, (preoccupied with worthless matter, which is subject to time). Thus he must be born again: not once, but twice (John 3: 5). For unless you become as a little child, you cannot perceive the things of the kingdom of heaven (the unseen world).

Being born again by the word (water, as in John 3: 5 and Ephesians 5: 26) does not mean hearing the gospel and professing John 3: 16; but awakening to Christ through the word (wisdom). And awakening is not seeing new things (elements of nature) or receiving enlightening insights: it is the fluorescence of one in the light of true consciousness: for the mystery of life is not a problem to be solved (for the equation has been solved); but a reality to be experienced. It is finding yourself in a new vista, from where you look back at the path you have walked, and the being that you were. From this point you evolve into perfection, upon your translation.

The energy of the sun is like unto the spirit: discern the sun in its cycle, and relate it to the spirit: for it is one with the cycle of consciousness. At reconciliation, the incandescent is transformed into a fluorescent: at which point one no longer is a filament, but becomes a radiant (Spirit). What good then is the delusive ornament he strives to nourish while as yet an element in his refining process?
Man lives a life he cannot see, in a world which though he sees, yet does not perceive, nor comprehend; as, in his haste, being preoccupied with his deluded goals, nature blurrily goes by. If he cannot see the elements of nature, which are before his eyes, how then can he perceive the things which cannot be seen (of the unseen world)? The forces of the unseen world direct the elements of the seen (natural) world. That which you see, which you experience, is simply a reflection of what the real you, the spirit, is going through in the unseen world: for the outer being bears the burdens of the inner being (see Psalm 84: 2, 42: 1&2, and 63: 1&2). All you have to do is be; submitting to the power that directs your very steps through your making process: for it is God which is working in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure; thus it is foolish to resist.

The world’s current state of polarity is the preparing of man for the unfolding of truth. In your making, the outer being bears the burden of the inner being, until he realizes the foolishness of bearing such worthless burdens, and finds the simple resolve of the inner being unto reconciliation to his true being: finding one’s corporate membership (see 2nd Peter 1: 19 and Malachi 4: 2). It does not matter what you asseveratingly hold as truth: what matters is what IS (I AM). Thus the end of all exploration is to know the beginning.

In today’s world, time has become man’s master: time was not created to rule you, but to keep you abreast. The flesh is limited in time, but the spirit is timeless. Man wastes much energy and life force striving with time; and this is simply because his main concern is about the time constrained flesh he is snared in, instead of the timeless and priceless spirit that is his true being. When you allow time to dictate your choice and state of being, you limit yourself to a restrained world governed by man, who himself is governed by the idol of Self, and so on in an endless cycle of bondage (enslavement).

There is a time and season for all things: but only as a point of reference in the unfolding mystery of consciousness; unto the fullness of divine illumination, at the point of reconciliation to the source of conscious energy. Submit to the fashioning of your inner being, and allow it to guide your outer being through its allotted time. Believe in that which you are being fashioned to become; and learn who you are, and the reason and beginning of your being.
Wisdom states, The fear (awesomeness) of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom and knowledge. If you start with God, you will understand all things; but if you rely on man’s ingenuity, you will be snared in confusion, confoundedly. Now discern creation:

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth (two kingdoms: fashioned after his image): a foreword to creation and its making. For the purpose of creating the earth came by virtue of the dual image of God, and the pervasion of darkness: for in the beginning darkness pervaded the face of the deep (space), which deep is wisdom, which wisdom is God; therefore knowledge was, at this point, non-existent; as God could not perceive his wisdom: thus, conscious of his dual image, positive and negative, he commanded light to be, and he became: thus perceiving (unveiling) his wisdom.

With this transpiration came knowledge: for God then saw (learned of) the light (the wisdom of conscious energy), that it was good: thereby realizing the evilness of darkness; and began the process of eliminating (separating) darkness from his being: discern Proverbs 3: 19. Thus, in the beginning, Genesis 1 referred to him as God; but upon perceiving his wisdom, attaining knowledge through creation, and separating himself, he then became the LORD God, which regard began in Genesis 2: 4. Discern Exodus 3: 14 as written in Hebrew: EHEYEH ASHER EHEYEH; meaning, I WILL BE THAT WHICH I WILL BE: (wholly Holy: upon full reconciliation).

It is written, It is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure: for you are that part of him pervaded by darkness. That which God is doing in you, he is doing for his good pleasure, in transforming his eternal body (which members of you are: see Ephesians 2: 21&22) into his chosen likeness (Holy: Light). God became aware of his dual nature, and realized the dark side of his being (the negative) was preeminent, overshadowing his positive side. As with a battery, to generate light, you must connect to both the positive and the negative: thus, to generate light, God connected unto his twain image (as denoted in Isaiah 45: 7, and in Ephesians 2: 15: For to make in himself of twain one new man). Having learned the goodness of light, through which wisdom came to life (came alive), God began to conceive (create) the process with which to completely cleanse (separate: rid) himself from the evil of darkness.
To cleanse a contaminated absorbable object, you must break it down into little particles (molecules), and run them through a chemical purification process (refinement): thus God broke his body down, through the process of reproduction, into molecules known as man; setting each one, being intrinsic members of the whole, on a purification course known as Afflictive Tribulation, in a laboratory known as the World, through a painstaking and longsuffering process of purifying each member, using natural elements that reactively affect man’s chemical balance, in reforming the complete body. And the conception of the method by which God broke down his body he conceived through creation; and he started by separating wisdom (symbolized as water): the spiritual from the worldly.

Now discern this parable, as presented by Buddhist folklore: Two traveling monks reached a river, where they met a young woman, who, being weary of the current, asked if they could carry her across. One of the monks hesitated; but the other monk quickly picked her up onto his shoulders, and transported her across the water, and put her down on the other bank. She thanked him, and departed. As the monks continued on their way, the one monk was brooding and preoccupied. Unable to hold his silence longer, he spoke out, saying, “Brother, our spiritual training teaches us to avoid any contact with women, but you picked that woman up on your shoulders and carried her.” “Brother,” said the second monk, “I sat her down on the other side, but you are still carrying her.” Do not allow legalism to distort righteous love, even God’s righteousness.

And now discern this mystery in Joshua 3: 2-4: It came to pass after three days, that the officers went through the host; and they commanded the people, saying, When you see the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, and the priests the Levites bearing it, then you shall remove from your place, and go after it (follow). Yet there shall be a space between you and it, about two thousand cubits by measure (about two thousand years between the first and the last comings, signified by the two cherubims shadowing the Mercyseat): come not near unto it (but observe it as you follow), that you may know the way by which you must go: for you have not passed this way heretofore (prior). And understand that the Jordan river empties into the Dead Sea: therefore crossing it is overcoming it in purification, as all shall do by grace: as denoted in verse 17.
Back to the refining process: To commence on this process, the refinery (the natural world) had to be built, and the elements (perils) put in place, and then the body had to be biologically broken down into molecules in the refinery, to be sent through the process, and reformed back in purity (holiness) as whole, ready to be reconciled to the head: thereby making the LORD God wholly Holy.

The refinery had to have its by-laws, known as World Wisdom; thus the waters (wisdom) were divided: the spiritual to the heavens (the unseen world), and the natural to the earth (the seen world: carnality). But then, as was with the spiritual at the beginning, the wisdom of the natural had to start from zero: hence Dry land. And after this came the concept of reproduction: thus the vegetation was created, each having seed and bearing fruit, whose seed was in itself. Then came the elements and chemicals (gases) required to furnish the refinery. After which came the concept of flesh in the conception of the mammals (starting with the whales), and the concept of the angels (as with the fowls of the air). After which God then made man in his image as Adam (male and female), and then commenced the process of refinement unto perfecting his eternal body as Holy, rid of all impurities (all darkness).

Now understand this, No man, being lost to self (ego), can be made to learn what he does not want to learn: if pressured, he might learn of it, but he will not know it. Only when he seeks to know it will he make the commitment to learn it. It is something you find from within, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, of whom you are; yet experience from without, as the Spirit directs your steps. If you are grounded on the foundation of the scriptures and Christ, as many claim to be, you should be able to discern any text (doctrine) without fear, and perceive what is or isn’t (truth): such a one is weaned from the milk. In the war of life, fear always brings with it false hope: but true hope can only be found in love. Right before the end, fear might present a form of false victory; but at the very end, love overcomes, thereby putting fear to shame, to the glory of love.

The mystery regarding life is that as the righteous work of God unfolds, so do the secrets of life; but as you cannot see dough rising, so also can you not see God’s righteous work as it unfolds: thus it might seem to the naked eye as if nothing is changing.
The soul will have attained the fullness of incontrovertible consciousness; yet it will seem as if there’s been no change. The power of the world to come is being transmuted in all; yet it cannot be perceived in its mutation: in the end, all shall find themselves perfected. Thus it is written, Whosoever shall fall on this stone (Love), which the builders rejected (being self-righteous), shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

Thus Paul confessed, saying: For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father (God) of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, (being one with him), that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, (in keeping with his righteousness), to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man (the true you); that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith, (as you also become transformed into Christ: Love); that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all saints the very breadth, length, depth, and height (of the mystery of the righteous work of God); and to know the love of Christ, (which is manifested unto all, to become permeated in all), which surpasses knowledge, (which fullness of, man, in his conceit, is yet to know), that you might be filled with all the fullness of God.

But to be filled with the fullness of God, you must apprehend first the knowledge of his righteous work; for which Paul confessed, Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended, (yet many seem to think they have no need for further knowledge of the kingdom of God; supposing to know all there is to know; ignorant of their unclothedness): but this one thing I do, forgetting those things that are behind, (leaving behind that which has been fulfilled), and reaching forth unto those things which are before (ahead), I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

You are a greater witness than the literal word when you become the word. There comes a time in your transmutation when you internalize (embody) the scriptures (Word), even as did Jesus: this is what being born of the word (water) is; and after this you are on your way to be born of the Holy Spirit as Holy Ghost, after the similitude of Christ: (John 3: 5 and Romans 1: 4). And now discern the gospel of the kingdom of God as it unfolds; for which course you were told, Seek first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness.

Preface

Dearly beloved of the Father in heaven: be you Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Moslem, or of any other faith, or heathen; grace to you, and peace be unto you. Though you segregate yourselves confoundedly, yet know that you are all heirs of the one true and faithful God. Deep within, you believe there is a greater being, though you see him not: this is faith, implanted within all; and his essence is your very being, making all equally precious. And the foundation of every faith is called Christ: indicated symbolically in the beliefs of each faith, in varying terms; else there is no faith. For each name (term) used to identify each faith simply means Believer.

O straying precious sheep; the reason for the knowledge you have always sought of life, and of God, is being made manifest unto you, to the end that you be reconciled to God in his living likeness. Therefore be of good cheer: for your Salvation is at the door: even the last (Omega). For by grace are you saved through faith; and not of yourselves: but the gift of God; not of works, lest any man should boast; but of the quickening of the Spirit: for you were once dead in sins against God, and in trespasses against each other; and when you were yet dead in sins, were you quickened together with Christ, by whose grace you are saved from sin, looking unto the finish, the peace offering, unto reconciliation: for your works cannot perfect you, being flawed. This is the exceeding greatness of the power and wisdom of God toward all who believe in him (both faithful and heathen). And in this shall the sacrifice of the Gentiles also be acceptable: the marriage supper: being sanctified by the Holy Ghost: for the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly.

And, though being sanctified of the Spirit in the consolation; yet, as ordained, only through much travail shall you enter into the kingdom of God, after the order of the first begotten, being fellow heirs: thus partakers of the sufferings of the great tribulation, the travail of birth, which God spoke of by the mouth of his holy prophets. For, while you feel at home in the flesh, you are absent from the LORD: therefore mortify the flesh daily, that the Spirit might be prevalent in you. For as they that knew Christ after the flesh knew him no more after the flesh, but after the Spirit; so must you also no longer glorify the flesh, that the soul might be glorified.
Of the consolation: O Bethlehem Ephratah, though you be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall (is) he come forth to me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting (preordained). Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she (Zion) which travails has brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren (Gentiles) shall return unto the children of Israel (as a body of believers). And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth. And this man shall be the peace (Salem) when the Assyrian shall come into our land (into the land of Ephraim: US): when he shall tread in our palaces (even the towers).

Peter said to you: Repent, all of you, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the LORD; and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached to you, (which mystery is significantly hidden within the doctrine of all faiths): whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Therefore discern this sign of the time, you who suppose that the kingdom of God should immediately appear: The kingdom of God is likened to a certain nobleman who went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return: yet know that as a snare shall his return be. For the kingdom of God comes not with observation: neither shall they say, Look, there he comes! for he would already be in your midst. For as the lightening, that lightens one part under heaven (the first), and shines also unto the other part under heaven (the last); so shall also the Son of man be in his day. To he that has perception: Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: he that opens up to me shall receive of me the bread of life from above.

*He that alters the words of this testimony, or sells this book for personal gain, seeks to exalt his idolatrous self, and is in danger of experiencing the wrath. As you receive freely of the wisdom and knowledge of God, so also pass on freely unto your brethren.

This book can be accessed on line at: www.thetestament.com
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 9:54pm On Oct 07, 2007
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my brother softly sofly,bit by bit.
I no fit read long thesis
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by salinco(m): 8:25am On Oct 08, 2007
~ RAMADAN MUBARAK ~


Fasting is Mine and it I who give reward for it. [A man] gives up his sexual passion, his food and his drink for my sake. Fasting is like a shield, and he who fasts has two joys: a joy when he breaks his fast and a joy when he meets his Lord. The change in the breath of the mouth of him who fasts is better in Allah's estimation than the smell of musk.

I am as My servant thinks I am. I am with him when he makes mention of Me. If he makes mention of Me to himself, I make mention of him to Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assemble better than it. And if he draws near to Me an arm's length, I draw near to him a fathom's length. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him at speed.

- Hadith Qudsi
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know and cooperate with one another."

- (Quran 49:13)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by salinco(m): 11:12am On Oct 08, 2007
Zakat ul-fitr was made obligatory in the
month of Sha'ban in the second year of the
hijrah. Its purpose is to purify one who fasts
from any indecent act or speech and to help
the poor and needy. This view is based
upon the hadith reported by Abu Dawud,
Ibn Majah, and ad-Daraqutni from Ibn
'Abbas. The Messenger of Allah, upon whom
be peace, enjoined zakat ul-fitr on the one
who fasts to shield one's self from any
indecent act or speech and for the purpose
of providing food for the needy. It is
accepted as zakah for the person who pays
it before the 'id salah, and it is sadaqah for
the one who pays it after the salah.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by salinco(m): 3:37pm On Oct 08, 2007
"Indeed whosoever purifies himself shall achieve success, and remembers (glorifies) the name of his Lord and prays" Quran 87:14-15

Zakat-UL-FITR is part of the fast of Ramadan and is characterized by the following elements:

It consists of approximately 5.5 pounds of rice, wheat, dates, or similar food items.
It is not recommended to give the Zakat ul-Fitr in the form of money, clothes, or any other non-food items. However, the Hanafi School of Thought allowes to give the Zakat ul-Fitr in monetary form (if one wishes to do so.)
It must be given on the day of Eid, which is known as Eid ul-Fitr and signifies the end of the month-long fast of Ramadan. It can also be paid one or two days before Eid ul-Fitr.
It cannot be given after the Eid prayer, unless one has a valid reason for such a delay.
It should be given on behalf of every Muslim, whether male or female, adult or minor.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by belloti(m): 2:46pm On Oct 09, 2007
Assalamu Alaykum wa Rahamatul Lahi Ta ala wa Barakatuhu my brothers and sisters. Its being quite a while since i last popped in here. But Alhamdulillah, we are alive to witness the great Ramadan and hopefully Eid el Fitr.

I want to congratulate the entire muslim ummah for the dual celebrations and remind us also of our duties for the poor and needy among us by giving out generously and paying our zakatul fitr on time. Alhamdulillah i just learnt today that the Zakatul fitr can be paid in monetary terms.

Once again congrats to you all.

Ma assalam
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by babs787(m): 8:53pm On Oct 09, 2007
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Assalamu Alaykum wa Rahamatul Lahi Ta ala wa Barakatuhu my brothers and sisters. Its being quite a while since i last popped in here. But Alhamdulillah, we are alive to witness the great Ramadan and hopefully Eid el Fitr.

I want to congratulate the entire muslim ummah for the dual celebrations and remind us also of our duties for the poor and needy among us by giving out generously and paying our zakatul fitr on time. Alhamdulillah i just learnt today that the Zakatul fitr can be paid in monetary terms.

Once again congrats to you all.

Ma assalam



Salam

I learnt that you cant pay in monetary terms too as a result of the problem encountered during conversion, but now, it has been calculated and you can now pay in monetary terms.

May Allah increases our knowledge.

Maa Salam
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 3:39pm On Oct 11, 2007
Fellow Muslims-
Alhamudulilah, We have made it through another Ramadan.Lets try to fined the energy put in the six days of Shawwal.

Barka De Sallah cheesy
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by salinco(m): 11:12am On Oct 15, 2007
BARIKA DE SALAH. may ALLAH accept our fasting during the holy month of Ramadan
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by gastavas(m): 1:35pm On Oct 15, 2007
you cant win anybody by force let the Spirit do the convincing ,all have got eyes let them see,all have got ears let them hear,all have gotten brains let them think,religion is a way ,a practice ,a doctrine ,there is a way that leads to life,that way is Jesus,u are the architect of you present and future life,someone should please welcome me to the forum
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by salinco(m): 8:07am On Oct 16, 2007
@gastavas
No one is forcing you here to believe what is right. "There is no compulsion in religion but the right religion is of no error"but we relate base on the understanding of our faith (Islam). And we don’t want you to terrorize the good people here with you words. So let talk peace and noting more!
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by babs787(m): 7:20pm On Oct 16, 2007
@gastavas


you can't win anybody by force let the Spirit do the convincing ,all have got eyes let them see,all have got ears let them hear,all have gotten brains let them think,religion is a way ,a practice ,a doctrine ,there is a way that leads to life,that way is Jesus,u are the architect of you present and future life,someone should please welcome me to the forum.


Dear brother, you are welcome cheesy.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by gastavas(m): 9:55pm On Oct 16, 2007
@salico

i respect your space and your opinion,i mean no harm forgive me if i got to you but am not sorry at all,i made my point .
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by salinco(m): 8:38am On Oct 18, 2007
Welcome and peace cool cool cool smiley smiley smiley
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by olabowale(m): 12:02am On Oct 28, 2007
But fasting does not end after the month of Ramadan. You have the six days of shawaal, the monday and Thursday fast of every week, the fasting during the first 3 days of the new moon and the 3 days of the full moon. Plus you have many others.

As Nwando pointed out in another thread about the hyperactivities during the full moon, the muslim should fast at this time. The person who is fasting gets a real handle on matters and thereby able to control the urge to do stuff. What i mean is this: The moon has a gravitational pull over solutions, for our case it is water. We notice that the ocean/sea has more and heavier tidal waves during full moon. the three days that the moon is full.

The same effect on the moon over water bodies does occur in human body. The gravitational pull agitates us all to some degrees, from almost nothing to the noticeable. There are more crimes committed during these period of every month.

However for those who fast, they are calmer and therefore, if observing the rule of fasting adequately, will be able to be wade and keep control of things during this time. Fasting helps in self control and self restrain.

So Nwando, just because a person gain weight after a long month of fasting, may not necessarily mean that there is over indulgence in food intake, during this time.

It has been reported that an arab before Hijra of Muhammad from Makka to Madina, gained weight so much that he noticed that he had a potbelly. He only lived on Zam Zam water in Makka, while he was waiting for anyone to show him the holy prophet. This man was a traveller to Makka to meet the prophet (AS).


Nwando, you should try the fasting of the muslims and see the difference. It is difference from the night time which you are probably used to. What is there to remind you of fasting any way, when night is meant for sleep and we all know that the whole body need for energy is reduced and one sleep through it any way!
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 5:38pm On Nov 01, 2007
olabowale:

But fasting does not end after the month of Ramadan. You have the six days of shawaal, the monday and Thursday fast of every week, the fasting during the first 3 days of the new moon and the 3 days of the full moon. Plus you have many others.

As Nwando pointed out in another thread about the hyperactivities during the full moon, the muslim should fast at this time. The person who is fasting gets a real handle on matters and thereby able to control the urge to do stuff. What i mean is this: The moon has a gravitational pull over solutions, for our case it is water. We notice that the ocean/sea has more and heavier tidal waves during full moon. the three days that the moon is full.

The same effect on the moon over water bodies does occur in human body. The gravitational pull agitates us all to some degrees, from almost nothing to the noticeable. There are more crimes committed during these period of every month.

However for those who fast, they are calmer and therefore, if observing the rule of fasting adequately, will be able to be wade and keep control of things during this time. Fasting helps in self control and self restrain.

So Nwando, just because a person gain weight after a long month of fasting, may not necessarily mean that there is over indulgence in food intake, during this time.

It has been reported that an arab before Hijra of Muhammad from Makka to Madina, gained weight so much that he noticed that he had a potbelly. He only lived on Zam Zam water in Makka, while he was waiting for anyone to show him the holy prophet. This man was a traveller to Makka to meet the prophet (AS).


Nwando, you should try the fasting of the muslims and see the difference. It is difference from the night time which you are probably used to. What is there to remind you of fasting any way, when night is meant for sleep and we all know that the whole body need for energy is reduced and one sleep through it any way!

Olabowole,what do you mean?
How can you make conclusions Christians fast while sleeping,is there no end to fabrications and lies by Muslim apologists to discredit Christianity?
I stll love you dear. smiley
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by olabowale(m): 6:23pm On Nov 01, 2007
@Nwando: About the fast, am just saying that I have seen and also heard people who will start their fast from say 6.00 am to 6.00pm and from 6.00pm to 6.00am. I asked a christian what is the nature of christain fast; The answer I get is very fascinating; you make your own rule. There is no known rule about christian fasting; sometimes you drink or you do dry. In all I was told that the difference between it and dieting is the spirituality in it.

Thats my story and am sticking to it.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by babs787(m): 8:35pm On Nov 01, 2007
@Nwando


In addition, I learnt that there is white fasting as well. You may decide to break by 12, 2 or 4 depending on which you are choosing and you may even drink water because it does not spoil one's fast.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by babs787(m): 9:53am On Nov 02, 2007
As Salam Alaekum

From Ryad-us-saliheen (Garden of the Righteous)

On the excellence of fasting in the month of Muharram and Shaban


Ayesha relates 'the holy prophet did not observe the voluntary fast so often in any month as in Shaban for he observed the fast throughout Shaban.


On the escellence of fasting in the first ten days of Zil-Hajj


Ibn Abbas relates that the Holy Prophet said: 'there are no days during which righteous action is so pleasing to Allah as righteous action in these days . He was asked: messenger of Allah, not even striving in the cause of Alah? He answered,'not even striving in the cause of Allah except in the case of one who goes forth vwith his life and property and does not come back with either.


On the escellence of fasting on the day of Arafat and the 10th day of Muharram.

Abu Qatadah relates 'the holy prophet was asked about observing the fast on the day of Arafat. He said 'it atones for the sins of preceding year and the subsequent year.


On the escellence of fasting in the first six days of Shawal

Abu Ayub relates that the holy prophet said 'He who observe the fast througout Ramadhan and then follows it up with observing the fast on the first 6 days of Shawal is as if he had observed the fast throughout the year.


On desirability of fasting on Monday and Thursday


Abu Qatadah relates that the Holy Prophet was asked about observing the fast on Monday and answered: 'that is the day on which I was born and the day on which I received the call (or the day on which I received revelation)

Abu Hurairah relates that the Holy Prophet said "a man's deeds are reported on Mondays and Thursdays and I prefer that I should be observing the fast when my deeds are reported.


On desirability of fasting in 3 days of every month.

Mu'azah Adawiah relates that cshe asked Ayesha'did the Holy Prophet observe fast on three days during every month? And she said, 'yes. I asked her 'During which part of the month did he fast/ She answered 'he did not mind which part it was.

Abu Dhar relates that the Holy Prophet said; 'if you observe fasdt on 3 days in a month, then make them days of the 13th, 14th and 15th nights of the moon.

Qatadah Ibn Milhan relates 'the Holy Prophet directed us to observe the fast on the 3 white days of every month, meaning the days of 13th, 14th and 15th nights of the moon.

May Allah accept our Ibadah.

Maa Salam
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 11:07pm On Nov 03, 2007
babs787:

@Nwando


In addition, I learnt that there is white fasting as well. You may decide to break by 12, 2 or 4 depending on which you are choosing and you may even drink water because it does not spoil one's fast.
 
Fasting means abstinence of fleshly desires ie food,intimacy for couples etc.
Christianity is not a list of do's and don'ts.
You can abstain from food to focus on things of God for any length of time.
fasting is always for the purpose of praying and puuting the body under subjection.
It is private.
We don't announce it on CNN and BET.
It is not a show.


It can be done anytime and it can last as long as the individual desires or until the individual prays through.

When Christians fast,other members of the family may not even be aware.


Act 14:23  And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.

Luk 2:37  And she [was] a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served [God] with fastings and prayers night and day.

Mat 9:14 ¶ Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?

Christ himself told us that after he's been taken in heaven,then we who are now his disciples will fast.


Mat 9:15  And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.


This is what Christ says about fasting.


Mat 6:16 ¶ Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites,[/color] of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


Mat 6:17  But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;


Mat 6:18  [color=#990000]That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
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That is the fast acceptable to God almighty
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by olabowale(m): 9:00am On Nov 04, 2007
@Nwando: Comot! Go sidon, I beg. If you have nothing that can supersede Jesus and Moses conditions, about fasting, just leave the Subject alone. Jeje.
Am being very funny. Its nice to disarm you before I drop the boom!

Isnt it true that the children of Israel, under Moses, in Egypt, fasted on the day of passover? Isnt it also true that Moses fasted 40 days which included that very day of passover, while they are in the wilderness? Was not in this occasion that the 10 commandments was given and because of this extended stay, as it was not expected, that Samir (Lana tullah alal Mushrikiin), that he led the children of israel to make the golden calf?

Was Jesus' fast of 40 days not in remembrance of this Moses tradition? And please remember that Jesus came to fulfill the law, which at that time they have 'bastardised' (for my guy Mrpataki, ndiokpa!)? Was Jesus fast fast secret and unknown to his followers? No, my dear friend. It was an open secret. A public information. Remember he was a teacher, the same as a prophet and the same as a man who is spirirually led.

As in Islam, we have Ramadan which is for all the Ummah, like all the Ummah before us. Allah says that He ordained fast for muslims and He had ordained it for the nations before it. So that we may attain piety. Read it in Surah Baqarah. You are very smart, you will get it, some day!

There are fast that muslims make for personal individualised reasons. That may be secret and no one will know that such individual is fasting.

Please give me substance and dont quote those people who could not even stand beside their lord and/master in hi shour of need, according to your Bible. That quote at best should be inferior to what Master Jesus said and did!

Did you get my mail? Take care.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 11:10pm On Nov 05, 2007
My brother,if I give you the very words of Christ regarding a fast and you dismiss it with a wave of the hand,what other evidence do you need?
You are free to believe anything you choose,that is called freedom.
And believe me,your head will still be on your strong shoulders grin

no I haven't checked my mail.
let me do so now.
I'm still praying for you dear.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by olabowale(m): 2:43am On Nov 06, 2007
@Nwando: Moses, David, Jesus, just to name a few of the prophets and messengers of God Almighty fasted. Their fasts, included the compulsory fast, eg the passover fast, when pharaoh, the tyrant was led to his watery death. There are other fast that are voluntary, but not as important as the one prescribed. At least we know the passover fast was observed by Moses, not insecret. Jesus also obseved this fast and not in secret. If two giants observed without shrouding it in secrecy, how can we say fasting in secret has less or no reward? Who among the jews and the christian know God Almighty more than the two prophets named above?

It is reported in the NT, that Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights! If it was in secret, no one would have known it and definately there would have been any reference to it, as examples to future generations! We can not be more pious and/or God conscious than either of these men. Notice how I have not mentioned Muhammad? His case is well known and we no argue about it.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 3:08am On Nov 06, 2007
@ olabowale, do you know the significance of the passover that you mention so glibly as if it is an islamic rite?
This islamic penchant of struggling very desperately to cling to the bible is getting ridiculous. Hardly can a muslim discuss islam without jumping to quote the bible!

Is islam that insecure?
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by Nobody: 4:42am On Nov 06, 2007
olabowale:

@Nwando: Moses, David, Jesus, just to name a few of the prophets and messengers of God Almighty fasted. Their fasts, included the compulsory fast, eg the passover fast, when pharaoh, the tyrant was led to his watery death. There are other fast that are voluntary, but not as important as the one prescribed. At least we know the passover fast was observed by Moses, not insecret. Jesus also obseved this fast and not in secret. If two giants observed without shrouding it in secrecy, how can we say fasting in secret has less or no reward? Who among the jews and the christian know God Almighty more than the two prophets named above?

It is reported in the NT, that Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights! If it was in secret, no one would have known it and definately there would have been any reference to it, as examples to future generations! We can not be more pious and/or God conscious than either of these men. Notice how I have not mentioned Muhammad? His case is well known and we no argue about it.

I leave you again with the words of Christ.
I will believe him rather than believe you.

Mat 6:16 ¶ Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


Mat 6:17  But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;


Mat 6:18  That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by olabowale(m): 12:28pm On Nov 06, 2007
@Nwando: Wala, Nwando! I will believe Jesus Christ, the master, too, before I will believe myself. I will believe me, before I believe you! However, in reading through your Biblical quotes, above, I find it odd that you are quoting what others said, and they attributed it to our mutually beloved Jesus son of Mary! Unlike Muhammad, who I love and you do not care for, if not hated with the greatest of passion, Jesus was an Unlettered!

Where is the Gospel of Jesus himself, without the 'according to first name only' writers? If the revelation of the Unlettered can be prescribed, at least from the time of the caliphate of Uthman bin Affan, to this time, I wonder how it is possible that the Gospel of Jesus himself could not be prescribed from just the same first generation period of followership and then later christendom?

In Islam, contrary to your statement of ashes/dusts in sack poured or put over the head, daily hygiene and carrying of normal daily life actives is stressed, just as in the days or months when there is no fasting. This quality is to be carried out, throughout the life of the muslim. Infact, muslim is encouraged to aspire towards daily improvement. If you see any muslim to the contrary or behaving badly, it is from the soul of that individual, the inference, thereof, is not from Islam. Search it and you will not find it in the Qur'an and in the authentic Sunnah; Muhammad is the living Qur'an, that is. If it was not part of his behaviour and we know that he was very clean. And if he did not accept it from his companions, and we know that they were all encouraged to seek improvements, daily. If the following two generations did not practiced what you suggested, then it not part of Islam.


You will find in Islam many types of cleansing processes: Guzzul; Showering/bathing, the bathing is not filthy water. We have to do the small clensing of the private parts first, otherwise, the filth in there, will be part of the water you bath in. Hence, your water is unclean. We use Miswak; Pako in Yoruba language, chewing stick, as the Nigerians call it. Where is the dust/ash and sack in Islam?

Now, you will remember ASh Wednesday of the christians. You will remember the Good Friday of the christians. You will remember the Mardi Gra of New Orleans, Louisiana and the Brazilian Canival and what takes place in the Caribbean Islands! All of these belong to and are related to the annual fasting period of Lent! Then during the period of Good Friday and Easter Monday, they drag the effigies of Judas in the streets, beating it! Wow!


My friend, just as you pray for me, I will continue with my prayer for you.
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim by pilgrim1(f): 12:42pm On Nov 06, 2007
Olabowale,

olabowale:

@Nwando: Wala, Nwando! I will believe Jesus Christ, the master, too, before I will believe myself. I will believe me, before I believe you!

Poof! grin Wetin we no go hear again?

olabowale:

However, in reading through your Biblical quotes, above, I find it odd that you are quoting what others said, and they attributed it to our mutually beloved Jesus son of Mary!

Did you guys not realize this blander before you started trying to smuggle Muhammad into John's Gospel? You guys will never grow up from your duplicity!

If you find Muhammad in the Bible, let us know. Stop dancing between two bamboo stalks of trying to smuggle Muhammad into the Bible and then coming back to deny the same Bible when your fallacy has been exposed!

Cherio! grin

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