Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the vine, is the one who knows them. Jesus Christ did not establish an institution of men on earth to keep record of His branches on His behalf. So, do not for one sad moment think your organization here on earth is somehow licensed by him in some ridiculous way..

2. Jesus Christ said to His followers of His other followers that by their fruit you shall know them. Those who belong to Him bear fruits of Obedience and are able to identify the others when they encounter them. The very light of Jesus Christ shines from each one of His own no matter how far away the person may be located.

I have personally never met one of the others but I believe what Jesus Christ said is nothing but the Truth of God.

No matter how much you try to fake it, your organization here on earth will never be able to duplicate this fact of Jesus Christ. Ask the Catholic church before you and you will know .

Michael547:
■ 😆😆😆😆😆......And you think you are a true follower of christ?
■ And you have not in your entire life met another true follower of christ?😆😆😆
■ You must be the funniest person on planet earth.
■ So even the op that you are supporting is also not a true follower of christ😆😆😆

27 My sheep listen to my voice. I know them, and they follow me. - John 10 vs 27

Kobojunkie:
Op has made it abundantly clear that even your denomination has nothing with Jesus Christ and the God of Israel who instead prescribed for His followers an idea and understanding far away from that which you keep pushing.

You confuse the word church to imply a collection of people connected via an organization, a system of this world ruled over by your GBs. Jesus Christ instead described His own church as a set of branches only joined together, not by any other idea but by Him. Each node/branch of Jesus Christ's church is not even joined by location or commonalities that have to do with this earth. They could be scattered away from each other yet connected to the master who is Jesus Christ. Notice the stark difference between what you call church and that which is in fact of Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
The followers of Jesus Christ are those who are commanded ONLY by Jesus Christ --- they hear His voice alone and are taught by Him alone. They do not belong to any organization of this world nor are they commanded by any group of men. They belong only to the Vine that is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. That is what Jesus Christ established in His Gospel. His Gospel and Word of God — Jesus Christ— is the same today as it was in the beginning -- almost 2000 years ago-- and will always be.

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, one fact I am certain of is that no follower of Jesus Christ would:
▶ Associate Him, and His Name, with any organization of men on this earth
▶ Be associated with any religion or doctrines of men; Jesus Christ openly distanced himself from the religious leaders of even His time as well as their many doctrines and rituals.
▶ Use His name for any idea other than that strictly contained in His Gospel and Law; Using the name of Jesus Christ for that which He did not command or teach amounts to using His name in vain.
▶ Bow down to or follow any man or group of men who claim to be teachers or representatives of God on earth; Jesus Christ alone is the Teacher and authority to all of His followers.
▶ Subject himself to the standards of other men particularly where it concerns the Kingdom of God; Jesus Christ is the only standard that He judges all things by.
...
Jesus Christ is God's Law defined and no man or person has authority from him to stand between Him, the vine, and His branches.
So, that pretty much means every single individual out there holding or hanging on to religion has no part in Him Jesus Christ. There is no debating that unless you believe instead that Jesus Christ is not the absolute power and authority in the Kingdom of God which He claimed to be, in which case, this is all moot.

2. Absolutely! I have met a lot of religious beings such as yourself but I have never met a single being who exudes Jesus Christ in the same way that Jesus Christ said His followers would. o?

3. I am far from funny!

4. There is no mandate given by Jesus Christ that a follower go out in search of other followers so I know it is the religion in you that believes such nonsense. There is only one Jesus Christ and almost 100% of the claims you have made thus far have absolutely nothing to do with Him.

5. Lol... You do believe that Jesus Christ is according to the whims of men, don't you? What OP pointed out was known to me even back when I was just an atheist, unconcerned with the things of Jesus Christ. Would it have made sense for me to have at that time concluded like you insinuate that I was a follower of Jesus Christ by having that knowledge?

Straybullet:


I can't believe you're sounding somewhat like I would

Michael547:

Unfortunately, he does not believe that you are a true worshipper? How can Kobojunkie and you who claim to be true worshippers of God fail to be in agreement?
While you claim that we can never know or see a true worshipper, Kobojunkie believes that we can know and see them but he has never met and seen anyone i
His entire life who is actually a true follower of christ.

Are you two not a bunch of confused people?

Michael547:

Unfortunately, he does not believe that you are a true worshipper? How can Kobojunkie and you who claim to be true worshippers of God fail to be in agreement?
While you claim that we can never know or see a true worshipper, Kobojunkie believes that we can know and see them but he has never met and seen anyone i
His entire life who is actually a true follower of christ.
Are you two not a bunch of confused people?

Straybullet:


And you do not believe the words of jesus who told us no man can know the son but the father.

So are you not antichrist?

MaxInDHouse:


They agreed on one thing:

Anyone claiming Christian doesn't need to know, relate or worship with other worshipers in person.

I got that clearly from their argument but how are they going to work together to baptize new converts just as Jesus commanded and how are they going to record their activities if there is no imperson meetings?

Michael547:

You don't have sense......am I asking you to show me the father?

Michael547:

They obviously cannot think.

Straybullet:


I believe you're intelligent enough.

Read what you're responding to and correct yourself.
Na waa oo

MaxInDHouse:

Of course they do but it's the restraints that has to do with brotherhood they're against.

Once they agree to associate with others their iniquity will be called out so they want to claim they belong to the house of faith but without the house where the brethren will correct their wrongdoings when it's obvious they did what is wrong!

Michael547:

Am I asking you to show me either the father or son?

Michael547:
■ Oga stop writing long epistles an.
■ Do you know a true follower of christ today? Yes or no?
■ If yes, who are they? If no, How come you've never met anyone in your entire life?
■ Did Jesus's disciples not know themselves and studied God's word together?
■ How are you even sure that the true followers are in agreement with you?

Michael547:
■ Unfortunately, he does not believe that you are a true worshipper? How can Kobojunkie and you who claim to be true worshippers of God fail to be in agreement? While you claim that we can never know or see a true worshipper, Kobojunkie believes that we can know and see them but he has never met and seen anyone i His entire life who is actually a true follower of christ. Are you two not a bunch of confused people?

newbornmacho:
■ Unified The protestant reformation is a 16th century thing. The coptic church...ie the see of alexandria broke away in 451AD , there was the arian controversy that split the church in half ideologically, nestorius also, the Eastern orthodox broke away in the 11th century...what is the definition of unity again?
JESUS DID NOT START ANY CHURCH. Jesus said he would build his church, and he is doing that. These churches founded by man are distractions

6 “Don’t give something that is holy to dogs. They will only turn and hurt you. And don’t throw your pearls to pigs. They will only step on them. - Matthew 7 vs 6

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ also told His followers not to give that which is Holy — The Gospel of the Kingdom of God — to the dogs — non-Israelites—, warning that the dogs would use it to hurt His followers.

The roots of the religion of Christianity were laid by those whom Jesus Christ referred to as dogs. From those who referred to as church fathers, to the delusions regarding some sort of spiritual Israel, all of these ideas were theorized and established as part of religion by people who believed themselves non-israelites. That which is in every wise antiChrist cannot be of Jesus Christ, no matter the rebranding or reconstituting work done on it.

Straybullet:

I hear !
I hope Michael547 and MaxInDHouse hear this as well.

Straybullet:


So you don't know that worshippers are sons

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ also told His followers not to give that which is Holy — The Gospel of the Kingdom of God — to the dogs — non-Israelites—, warning that the dogs would use it to hurt His followers.

The roots of the religion of Christianity were laid by those whom Jesus Christ referred to as dogs. From those who referred to as church fathers, to the delusions regarding some sort of spiritual Israel, all of these ideas were theorized and established as part of religion by people who believed themselves non-israelites. That which is in every wise antiChrist cannot be of Jesus Christ, no matter the rebranding or reconstituting work done on it.

Michael547:

😆😆😆oga get out of here.....so na you be the son wey only the father know.
So even your parents no know you.

Michael547:

Na so so story full your mouth.
Common to identify a true follower of christ apart from yourself is difficult for you to do and a feat you might never accomplish throughout your lifetime if you continue to have this mentality.

Michael547:
∆Na so so story full your mouth.
Common to identify a true follower of christ apart from yourself is difficult for you to do and a feat you might never accomplish throughout your lifetime if you continue to have this mentality.

Straybullet:

😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄
Chaiiiiii
Na wetin dem dey teach una for that una church sef??
No bible knowledge at alllllll
No man knoweth the son means no man can identify the son, nor the sons of God.

MaxInDHouse:


So how come first century Jewish disciples of Christ knew themselves and call themselves by name?

"Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him" 2Peter 3:15

Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. Act 4:13

Give my greetings to Prisʹca and Aqʹui·la, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. Romans 16:3

So how come they recognized one another using names?

Straybullet:

Paul also called demas by name.

They also called judas by name.

Yet it didn't make them correct.

No one can know the son

MaxInDHouse:


At least you are CORRECT nah just that you have to rely on their writings and letters!

Straybullet:

We use Peters writings, but Paul reproved him.
No man is God.
We interpreted scripture with scripture.
Jesus has final say...no man knows the son exceptnthe father

Kobojunkie:
Clearly, your obligation and priority is with your particular organization of men and not Jesus Christ at all, at all. 😁
Continue ooo!

Straybullet:


😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄

Chaiiiiii

Na wetin dem dey teach una for that una church sef??
No bible knowledge at alllllll


No man knoweth the son means no man can identify the son, nor the sons of God.