Kobojunkie:
Clearly, your obligation and priority is with your particular organization of men and not Jesus Christ at all, at all. 😁

Continue ooo!

Michael547:

Where did you see the 'sons of God' in that verse if you are not a deceitful person?

Michael547:

So mixing with followers of christ means I don't know Jesus? Definitely Jesus disciples were not true followers then since they mixed with themselves.

Michael547:
■ So mixing with followers of christ means I don't know Jesus? Definitely Jesus disciples were not true followers then since they mixed with themselves.

Kobojunkie:
You mean your religion-centric" following of Jesus? Sigh! Anyways...

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ was a hypocrite? He distanced Himself from even the religion of His time, just as His Father did. But all of that was a lie? 😯😯😯😯😯

Kobojunkie:

Anywho, God of Israel who instead gave His people Law and warned them against following of the idols and religion in His Name, sent His Son, Jesus Christ who was one with His Father. The Son distanced Himself from the religious leaders of His time, denouncing their doctrines as lies designed to deceive God's sheep away from the Truth of God.

newbornmacho:
■ Denominations are not church like the op said

Kobojunkie:
God is anti-Religion and Religion is itself a collection of denominations. Whether you are dealing with the religion of Hinduism, Paganism, Islam, Judaism, Politics, Tradition, or even Christianity, they all follow the same structure, which is that they serve as the parent body for many sects/cults/groups grouped under them.

MaxInDHouse:


You're confused but you need not be if that's not what you choose for yourself.


Jesus (God's only begotten Son) gave Peter the Keys of God's kingdom and said:

I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

So Peter knew Jesus inside out that's why Jesus said it's God who revealed his identity to Peter {Matthew 16:17} therefore you are wrong saying Peter didn't know Jesus.

And Peter is always anxious of the unknown so Jesus never condemned him for the weakness rather Jesus used Paul to correct Peter even though Paul highly regard Peter as one of the Apostles who walked with Christ Jesus.

Imperfection doesn't mean they don't know God for the scriptures say that to everyone that believes in Jesus he gave the authority to become God's son! John 1:11-12

Ọmọ i'm not interested in your hide and seek game if you want to learn go and meet JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES it's free that they taught me all these things and laid their hands on me to remember all that i'm telling you now! John 14:26

Straybullet:


I have waited for this.

Somebody to nudge me to move to the next phase.

Without meaning to, you have just given me the signal to move to the next phase.

You have mentioned that Peter knew Jesus.

This is a major undertaking, to unravel whether Peter knew Jesus or not.

In matthew 16, Peter proclaimed Jesus messiah.

Jesus informed him, it was not FLESH AND BLOOD that revealed it to him.

Not even Peter's flesh and blood.

But the father.

A few moment's later Peter's flesh and blood showed up in true color opposing Jesus death on the cross.

Jesus rebuked him

Now my dear friend, which one was Peter ? Was it the one that proclaimed Jesus messiah or the one that opposed the crucifixion?

I use Peter first because that story is found in matthew 16, where the Lord himself spoke about the church.

If you can answer my question you will understand that no man can know the son. Not even the flesh and blood Peter.

Kobojunkie:
You mean your religion-centric" following of Jesus? Sigh! Anyways...

MaxInDHouse:


I have answered you in the same post that Peter is always anxious so hearing bad things will happen to his friend make him uncomfortable but the truth is that God revealed Jesus' identity to Peter just as Jesus said that only the father can reveal him to us! Matthew 16:17

So you're wrong that Peter didn't know Jesus!

Michael547:

Oga you are confused.

Straybullet:

I didn't ask you this question you're answering.
Which Peter knew Jesus? The one that opposed his crucifixion? Or which one

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus confirmed that God revealed him to Peter! Matthew 16:17

So Peter was confused due to anxiety just as he denied Jesus three times and also denied his fellow believers in Paul's presence that's imperfect!

Aemmyjah:

He was fearful
He knew what he was doing
He chose to lie
Thankfully, he repented

Straybullet:


When you guys have no answers you accuse people of being confused 😄

MaxInDHouse:


He wants to condemn the first century Jewish disciples of Christ because they assembled for worship and known as a religious group!

Kobojunkie:
For those not aware, what God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ gave to men were Constitutional Laws to the very nations that they promised to me, and the only mandate given from God to men has been obedience to His Law — every teaching and commandment in it.

▶ God of Israel constituted the Nation of Israel of the children of Israel whom He rescued from slavery in Egypt. He gave them His Law through Moses and bade them obey His Law to prove themselves worthy of His promises to them in the Nation of Israel right there in the Land of Canaan.
▶ Jesus Christ constituted the Kingdom of God to make followers of all who were judged and condemned by the God of Israel for refusing to obey His Law in the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan. His promise He gave to those of them who would accept Him as the only path to redemption, and submit to His mandate which is equally obedience of God's Law and teachings in the Kingdom of God. God's Law and Teaching in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, is a Constitutional Law that all citizens of the Kingdom of God are urged by Him to abide by.

God never gave religion to men; He gave only His Law and His sole mandate is obedience to His Law.

Kobojunkie:

God never gave religion to men; He gave only His Law and His sole mandate is obedience to His Law.

Aemmyjah:

He and Kobojunkie are bunch of misguided people
Even if they meet they won't accept they are both Jesus followers
Selfish disciple

Michael547:

Don't mind the two of them.
They are self deceptive charlatans.

MaxInDHouse:


They are deceiving each other!

Followers of the same leader but won't meet together to deliberate on what their leader asked them to do!

BreconHills:
■ I like your exalted view of the church and this is certainly the position of the NT. I used to say what passes for church on Sunday is at best a public crusade. I think people mistake the crowds following Jesus for his disciples. The challenge is we have a low entry bar for church and the level of fellowship/collectiveness is also low - because we are bargaining and negotiating with the flesh. It should be high bar, high fellowship/collective. I suggest however that restoration not focus on sounding a clarion call to the world but first building the model that others can be invited into. God will bring those in whom he is working and add them to his kingdom himself.

Kobojunkie:
For those not aware, what God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ gave to men were Constitutional Laws to the very nations that they promised to me, and the only mandate given from God to men has been obedience to His Law — every teaching and commandment in it.

▶ God of Israel constituted the Nation of Israel of the children of Israel whom He rescued from slavery in Egypt. He gave them His Law through Moses and bade them obey His Law to prove themselves worthy of His promises to them in the Nation of Israel right there in the Land of Canaan.
▶ Jesus Christ constituted the Kingdom of God to make followers of all who were judged and condemned by the God of Israel for refusing to obey His Law in the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan. His promise He gave to those of them who would accept Him as the only path to redemption, and submit to His mandate which is equally obedience of God's Law and teachings in the Kingdom of God. God's Law and Teaching in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, is a Constitutional Law that all citizens of the Kingdom of God are urged by Him to abide by.

God never gave religion to men; He gave only His Law and His sole mandate is obedience to His Law.

Michael547:

Don't mind them.
The two of them claim to be followers of Jesus. But they would never be in agreement concerning biblical doctrines.

Michael547:

Don't mind the two of them.
They are self deceptive charlatans.