sisisioge:


If you have medical procedure they consider not to be an emergency unless you're paying directly from your purse, they make you wait because they too are dealing with shortage of hospitals and personnel. The population is overwhelming the system. But if you intend to pay, you get it now now. Another thing is having your referral stronger worded for you, that's why you should befriend your family doctor . Sebi we pay in Naija, where does that still leave us? That option is there.


Meanwhile, they immediately start you on treatment for free on health challenges that are deemed emergency....eg, Cancer. Ask Nigerians who have dealt with major health challenges to explain that process.

sister, hand done touch one of our pipo for canada ooo. this one is on FP as we speak

https://www.nairaland.com/7645785/thinking-relocating-back-nigeria-canada

sukkot:
he is not doing the calculations correctly. When he starts paying American school fees he would discover he would reach his financial goals in the year 2060

Sukkot, rest this, more than half of Nigeria immigrants may not be finding it rosy financially but u have quite a number doing very well...

I usually like to start my T-chart of pros & cons from the assumption that u do well financially... But even with this, I still see some other negative factors that outweigh higher financial prosperity.. like wrong doctrines taught kids, the laws around
kids' discipline, subtle & direct racism & social life with F&F

sukkot:
hey listen it's all kinds of stories out there. Many are bad and some are good. Honestly though the good success stories are out of America usually. If you are in Europe nothing for you. Most of our people are in Europe

That’s why threads like these don’t paint a true picture of what it’s actually like. Europe is a whole continent. Same as America. Just imagine if someone started generalizing about Africa when the differences are so vast. There’s no way it makes sense to compare life in South Africa vs Kenya for example. Or ghana vs Cuba. It’s that different even though it’s one central govt but the differences are on the same scale in certain aspects and income is one of those big differences.

Gerrard59:


Modafvker,

You should be ashamed of yourself since you refuse to look at the root ssues which made people flee. You think if Nigeria was relatively OK as it was during Jonathan's administration, people would sell off their assets? You think those who returned enmass from the abroad during GEJ administration didn't know why they return? People only went to the UK to study and return to Nigeria. Companies, I recall Access Bank then, was going to the UK to organise aptitude tests for Nigerian students in the UK to employ them immediately they're done and return to Nigeria. Which Nigerian company in the last four years has done the same? I recall then job ads brekete for front page. I was looking forward to them. Recently, I checked Linkedin jobs portal on Nigeria and compared to Singapore. My goodness! There were more triple the number of jobs on the Singaporean portal than Nigerian. Singapore has less than six million people o!

You people want to shy away from the root issue and I won't allow it. I detest hypocrites. You modafvker will do anything to swallow Tinubu's cum yet lament things are hard in Nigeria. How come people, even in their Mid-40s, are fleeing Nigeria if things were relatively OK in Nigeria? Why didn't they flee when Jonathan or Obasanjo was the president? If the country's politics are relatively OK, people don't flee enmass but ignorant and mendacious modafvkers think otherwise.

So, because someone stays in a gated estate tucked in Lekki which has no pedestrian walkway yet almost hundred people were brutally butchered in Benue, I should look away? You should be terribly ashamed of yourself! Tomorrow, you will head to church or slam your kon-kon head five times thinking you will enter heaven with such a mentality. Ta! A Chinese atheist will enter heaven before you despicable lots!

I used to think you were PRO-Tinubu, this man you use to surprise us. Anyway, excellent submission.

NoToPile:


Yeah vanish abi is there any other way to describe holding a management meeting with the individual present, issues were discussed, the person would have contributed oo only for you to hear the person has japaed 3 days later no letter nothing just disappear, the funniest part was now that 3 different peeps in a critical department did it.

The oga patapata who came back from this same UK himself and was appointed to head was like there are ways to do these things you don't spoil this ground because you are seeking another ground, you tidy up properly because you never can tell.

That's really poor work ethics.

sukkot:
sister, hand done touch one of our pipo for canada ooo. this one is on FP as we speak

https://www.nairaland.com/7645785/thinking-relocating-back-nigeria-canada

Saw it, I think he should return since he couldnt seem to think of changing job, besides he's bored with his course as well. One down, several still standing. Do you know how many Nigerians travel with the student routes, how many are returning?

sukkot:
well thats the delusion of these doctors when they petitioned the nigerian government to fight on their behalf. i am simply reporting the news

well they should start by asking other doctors who are up the ladder how the system works

ChybuzzDD:


The 'bolded' didn't confirm the wrong information you dished out there.

The doctors were never recruited by the British government as you wrongly wrote, but by a private hospital that is not under the NHS.

They were never paid lower than their British counterparts.

Their complaints were only about their long working hours as a result of poor staffing, a phenomenon that is also common in other private hospitals in many other countries.

you are missing one big picture

foreign doctors take time to raise up the ladder, unless one is renowed specialis, the rest have to go through various test and exams most fails because 1 new environment which is very strict 2 most lack common courtsey

A UK trained doctor has easy reference to follow and pict up any misconduct, a foreign doctor has to start from minimum going up building that UK experience and reference etc

sisisioge:


Saw it, I think he should return since he couldnt seem to think of changing job, besides he's bored with his course as well. One down, several still standing. Do you know how many Nigerians travel with the student routes, how many are returning?

lol truthfully I think it's the case of a soft kid who has never worked in naija before. Truthfully Canada is not for ajebutters. To survive Canada you must be a rugged ajepako. When that snow hit you when you dey do night patrol with bingo for that security job, na dat time you go know say khaki no be leather lmaooo

cococandy:


That’s why threads like these don’t paint a true picture of what it’s actually like. Europe is a whole continent. Same as America. Just imagine if someone started generalizing about Africa when the differences are so vast. There’s no way it makes sense to compare life in South Africa vs Kenya for example. Or ghana vs Cuba. It’s that different even though it’s one central govt but the differences are on the same scale in certain aspects and income is one of those big differences.

very true indeed. People need to understand abroad is different from abroad. I tell people if you can't get into America just forget it. Other places na suffer .

being:

Sukkot, rest this, more than half of Nigeria immigrants may not be finding it rosy financially but u have quite a number doing very well...

I usually like to start my T-chart of pros & cons from the assumption that u do well financially... But even with this, I still see some other negative factors that outweigh higher financial prosperity.. like wrong doctrines taught kids, the laws around
kids' discipline, subtle & direct racism & social life with F&F

its very true. There are more damaging factors to consider. Like you rightly said the doctrines taught to kids. All that LGBT stuff. By the time they are done polluting your kids minds the kids don't even belong to you anymore. It's like a monster living in your house looking at you like you are some archaic stone age weirdo lmaoooooo

Kelechi009:


I used to think you were PRO-Tinubu, this man you use to surprise us. Anyway, excellent submission.

There is no way I would have my signature and be a Tinubu disciple. It is not possible. I hate people who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. It is an eternal thing. I dey cut-off people wey campaign for that man. Regarding my views on Tinubu himself, I am very rational with it. He had the best chances of winning, so PO, AA & KK going campaigning separately made it so easy for him.

I don't like Tinubu.

sukkot:
lol truthfully I think it's the case of a soft kid who has never worked in naija before. Truthfully Canada is not for ajebutters. To survive Canada you must be a rugged ajepako. When that snow hit you when you dey do night patrol with bingo for that security job, na dat time you go know say khaki no be leather lmaooo

Since we're all security men doing night patrol, you're very correct!

To be truthfully, it's really a cold country, the snow is crazy, a lot of people work from home, there are jackets made for the weather, the cars mostly come with heat on the chairs, inside are suitably heated, most of the kids are so used to the weather that you had to negotiate wearing suitable jacket to school.....it is no where as bad as our Naija situation at it's worst as there are other good things to compensate for the cold weather.

By the way, you know that a security guy in Canada is not on the same pay grade level after all deductibles with most of the white collar job guys in naija? Those that drive Semi trucks aren't the same as those on high grade government office jobs in naija. Some hair dresses here may waaaaaay more than bank managers in Nigeria on a monthly basis.....person dey wey dey charge 1200CAD for braids that she does in 4 hrs, cheapest braided will charge you 200CAD for hair she finishes in 3hrs. She does 2 to 3 per day. So stop ridiculing those jobs you see as below status...they make way money than the suit wearers in Nigeria even after paying their bills. To each mallam, his kettle.

By now you and I should have exhausted this argument, happy easter.

sukkot:
its very true. There are more damaging factors to consider. Like you rightly said the doctrines taught to kids. All that LGBT stuff. By the time they are done polluting your kids minds the kids don't even belong to you anymore. It's like a monster living in your house looking at you like you are some archaic stone age weirdo lmaoooooo

the problem is not the system but the parents, let me break it down

1 parents spend more time working than having social time with thier children hence friends and social media will raise their children

2 parents are proud of their kids sounding more british/american than keeping the balance

3 LBBT is taught in class as an awareness that people are different but its not forced on families,

4 africans we play catch up and we pick white low income families as role models not realising that these are the worst of the white people, in simple terms is when we move abroad, the 1st few years we live in poor areas and we adopt what is their and we assume thats what all whites do etc which is not

sisisioge:


Since we're all security men doing night patrol, you're very correct!

To be truthfully, it's really a cold country, the snow is crazy, a lot of people work from home, there are jackets made for the weather, the cars mostly come with heat on the chairs, inside are suitably heated, most of the kids are so used to the weather that you had to negotiate wearing suitable jacket to school.....it is no where as bad as our Naija situation at it's worst as there are other good things to compensate for the cold weather.

By the way, you know that a security guy in Canada is not on the same pay grade level after all deductibles with most of the white collar job guys in naija? Those that drive Semi trucks aren't the same as those on high grade government office jobs in naija. Some hair dresses here may waaaaaay more than bank managers in Nigeria on a monthly basis.....person dey wey dey charge 1200CAD for braids that she does in 4 hrs, cheapest braided will charge you 200CAD for hair she finishes in 3hrs. She does 2 to 3 per day. So stop ridiculing those jobs you see as below status...they make way money than the suit wearers in Nigeria even after paying their bills. To each mallam, his kettle.

By now you and I should have exhausted this argument, happy easter.

lmao yeah I think we are done. But it was fun. Oh and I am not saying security is the only job out there. I was using it as standard entry level job for fresh off the boat Nigerians but I know there are people doing well in Canada. But yeah it was fun . Happy Easter

ZIMDRILL:


the problem is not the system but the parents, let me break it down

1 parents spend more time working than having social time with thier children hence friends and social media will raise their children

2 parents are proud of their kids sounding more british/american than keeping the balance

3 LBBT is taught in class as an awareness that people are different but its not forced on families,

4 africans we play catch up and we pick white low income families as role models not realising that these are the worst of the white people, in simple terms is when we move abroad, the 1st few years we live in poor areas and we adopt what is their and we assume thats what all whites do etc which is not

whats the argument ? That it's the parents fault that the children become alien to them ? You are very correct. 100 percent. They work too much. Chase money endlessly at the expense of creating a bond with their growing children . That's why most of these children become strangers at home and monsters on the street especially in London this is an epidemic

sukkot:
whats the argument ? That it's the parents fault that the children become alien to them ? You are very correct. 100 percent. They work too much. Chase money endlessly at the expense of creating a bond with their growing children . That's why most of these children become strangers at home and monsters on the street especially in London this is an epidemic

no arguement i was just responding to the blaiming culutre instead of looking into yourself as parent

sukkot:
very true indeed. People need to understand abroad is different from abroad. I tell people if you can't get into America just forget it. Other places na suffer .

Well I really like Canada a lot. If not for the lesser income, I prefer it to America. Just my opinion though. I know some people won’t agree

sukkot:


One of the doctors who spoke with BBC, Augustine Enekwechi, a Nigerian doctor, who worked at Nuffield Health Leeds Hospital in 2021, said he was approached by NES Healthcare, a private company that specialises in employing doctors from overseas, and was offered visa sponsorship and a potential job.

The doctor said he failed to notice that the NES contract opted him out of the law that protects UK workers from excessive working hours and left him vulnerable to a range of salary deductions.

Enekwechi added that his hours were extreme – on-call 24 hours a day for a week at a time – and that he was unable to leave the hospital grounds. He says working there felt like being in “a prison”.

https://punchng.com/nigerian-doctors-in-uk-lament-exploitation-slave-labour/

The link you posted corroborates my own side of the story more than it does to yours.

The salary deductions might be as a form of punishment for one thing or another, as deemed necessary by the private hospital.

The truth remains that only a minute group of guys are involved, who chose to follow the easier and illegal route via agencies.

Agency recruitment of healthcare professionals from Nigeria and other 3rd world countries has long been banned, the reason those guys couldn't even take any legal action.

The story is quite different from the overwhelming majority who went through the NHS websites

Gerrard59:


There is no way I would have my signature and be a Tinubu disciple. It is not possible. I hate people who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. It is an eternal thing. I dey cut-off people wey campaign for that man. Regarding my views on Tinubu himself, I am very rational with it. He had the best chances of winning, so PO, AA & KK going campaigning separately made it so easy for him.

I don't like Tinubu.

*He had the best chances of rigging.

cococandy:


Well I really like Canada a lot. If not for the lesser income, I prefer it to America. Just my opinion though. I know some people won’t agree

you are very correct especially for people with children Canada is definitely a way better place and safer to raise children. Only problem as you said the pay is not great but also their taxation is killing. But you get free healthcare though. It's a give or take. Choose your poison

sukkot:
in fact you have said it all. Nothing more to add . Voluntary pillaging and voluntary enslavement. You pillage yourself and go give the bounty to the white man and then render your services to literarily wipe his yansh for cheap money ? No be juju be dat ? You have been enslaved and pillaged but you did it yourself. Most of these people get carried away by the pound strength but they don't know what you pay for rent per month over there is what we pay for the whole year. So whatever you make there it stays there. Bills . Unless you just are into crime then you can make money there. But if you are not into crime in the UK ? Forget that thing oooo. After working for 30 years you will look at your bank account and see just 1000 pounds saving

NOT SUPPORTING CRIME OOO

I respectfully disagree. I know people uk doing very fine.

sisisioge:


But you know that you're actually circumventing the system, right? If you're caught, you will be heavily penalized. Nigeria does not have good systems to track all defaulters and the system itself is corrupt. Imagine how much nicer the country will be if there is no corruption from the system and the people within the system? Better no loud this before someone sits on your case. Nigerians are the ones ruining the country.

Tax avoidance is completely legal anywhere in the world

Treadway:
lol. Very hilarious submission. Bob Marley's grandson died of asthma. I used that example as it is a known person. There is even a trend with a hashtag 'died suddenly' of an uptick in the number of young people suddenly dropping dead in public eg at the gym etc...and conspiracy theorist are even trying to tie it to the covid vaccine ( which could have some merit actually) BUT according to you people don't die overseas.

Funny peeps full here I swear.🤣

True. In fact, there are cases of kidnapping all over the world. It's only more in some parts compared to others. Just visit the website of Canadian police or any police institution of any first world country, you will see photos of missing/kidnapped persons....Some have been missing for 20 years.


...but like I mentioned, it is only more in Naija.

Unfortunately, many people japaing for their kids will end up with kids who become druggies, criminals, transgenders etc. It's harsh but it's the truth. Some people will definitely become a product of their environment.

It will be even worse if those people who japaed for their kids were living at least a decent life before throwing it all away.

Of course, some will have kids who will excel. Experience has shown that the immigrant kids who excel the most are those who have known a bit of hardship and are motivated. Kids who migrate in their teens.

I believe in choices though. Those japaing for their kids should make sure they don't forget to remind those kids that they're Africans and raise them as such. That's why the Indians and Chinese succeed from generations to generations.

sisisioge:


Back in naija, I would close at VI at exactly 5pm, ... LNot a smooth drive o, traffic holdup, other crazy drivers, potholes and cracks everywhere. It was crazy!
. Then I'm stuck with the heat or generator's noise all through the night.

Eat a simple meal, sleep to repeat the next day. Omo,e no easy o. I quickly lost weight ....the stress was real.

So if I had a 100mil, I would spend it to get out of the hell-hole to go and become a street sweeper in the UK so long as my peace is guaranteed. I dislike wahala like kilode.

All for the wrong reasons again ...

sisisioge:


basis.....person dey wey dey charge 1200CAD for braids that she does in 4 hrs, cheapest braided will charge you 200CAD for hair she finishes in 3hrs. She does 2 to 3 per day. So stop ridiculing those jobs you see as below status...they make way money than the suit wearers in Nigeria even after paying their bills. To each mallam, his kettle.

But these earnings are3 spent in Canada on bills taxes etc ...

zed7:
Unfortunately, many people japaing for their kids will end up with kids who become druggies, criminals, transgenders etc. It's harsh but it's the truth. Some people will definitely become a product of their environment.

It will be even worse if those people who japaed for their kids were living at least a decent life before throwing it all away.

Of course, some will have kids who will excel. Experience has shown that the immigrant kids who excel the most are those who have known a bit of hardship and are motivated. Kids who migrate in their teens.

I believe in choices though. Those japaing for their kids should make sure they don't forget to remind those kids that they're Africans and raise them as such. That's why the Indians and Chinese succeed from generations to generations.

The kids could also become Yahoo boys, kidnappers, bandits and oloshos In Nigeria too.

sisisioge:


If you have medical procedure they consider not to be an emergency unless you're paying directly from your purse, they make you wait because they too are dealing with shortage of hospitals and personnel. The population is overwhelming the system. But if you intend to pay, you get it now now. Another thing is having your referral stronger worded for you, that's why you should befriend your family doctor . Sebi we pay in Naija, where does that still leave us? That option is there.


Meanwhile, they immediately start you on treatment for free on health challenges that are deemed emergency....eg, Cancer. Ask Nigerians who have dealt with major health challenges to explain that process.

See JJC. You entered Canada in 2022 and you're now talking like a veteran? Lol. Please tell me where you stay in Canada and what work you do? Probably still spending your savings and attaching to a friend or relative. It's well.

Give yourself 2 years and come back and re tell your Candaian experience.

Nigerians are never true to themselves. Even the few who try to tell it as it is are accused of not wanting others to progress.

tensazangetsu20:


The kids could also become Yahoo boys, kidnappers, bandits and oloshos In Nigeria too.

Sure, but their parents didn't sell houses to go and become cleaners and ass wipers.

zed7:

Sure, but their parents didn't sell houses to go and become cleaners and ass wipers.

Not everyone sold houses to move abroad. Not every country is the uk. Not everyone working abroad is doing care job.

tensazangetsu20:

Not everyone sold houses to move abroad. Not every country is the uk. Not everyone working abroad is doing care job.

Its very essy to psycho analyse you. You're an idealist Nigerian who spends his time on travel section and watching YouTube videos, dreaming of the abroad and hoping to afford it someday.
Learn to listen to some of us who've experienced quite a bit of both ends.