Throwaway12345:
I think it is about doing a cost to benefit analysis.

Like finance , a lot of people don't know how to do basic calculation and they tend to get a lot emotional about things.

For us it was an economic decision, and trust me i would be open with numbers. We made a combined N700k inclusive of bonuses and incentives after calculation monthly with a lot of headroom for growth. I was a year away from being a Manager and was in a very sort after role. But doing a cost analysis of what i would earn if we were overseas we noticed we were short paid and dping ourselves a disservice staying back. This was guaranteed, i had a lot of interviews that I was about to be offered something but because of my location which was Nigeria they would not be able to employ me because of their government policies or company policies so it was either we move first then apply or i stay back.

But doing basic maths, even the most junior roles I would do got a take home of almost $4500 per month after tax and this was me with almost 8 years of experience in a multinational. And i had a partner who was making about N100k per month. Even if my partner did the most basic jobs like cashier or admin jobs we were just being pretty blunt and a decided a worst case scenario, they would earn $2000 per month. So that makes it a combined of $6500. We did a calculation of cost of living factoring in our 2kids and we arrived at a monthly spend of about $4000 inclusive of rent and utilities. That gives us a savings room of $2500. If we were in Nigeria even with minimal spending, the max we were able to save a month was N300k.

$2500*500 is N1,250,000 monthly saved in Nigeria. That means we are able to get to our goals *4 faster than staying back with me working even the most junior roles. Our plans are to work for maybe 5 to 6 years or till the kids are probably 12. Come back to Nigeria, enroll them in schools here for the final lap of high school with international schools in Nigeria. Max 2 years. Immerse them in the local culture and morals. Then allow them return back for their University education over here. With this, we would have saved ourselves thousands of dollars they would pay as international students as they would be citizens by then.


Truth is.

1. We even make much more than the $6500 we projected.

2. We really do not miss home that much. We weren't the outgoing ones back in Nigeria and our family is closely knit. With the kids you are already gassed out with their wahala to even think of going up and down. So it's almost same outlook living here.

3. I am far ahead of my peers in Nigeria now . Even though I worked for a multinational. The cost outlay for the cutting edge technologies I work with now is way out of what the Nigerian arm would be able to afford so I would never be able to ever work or experiment with such until after 3 to 5 years when the cost has become more cost effective for the Nigerian arm to deploy. Also please note that even as good as i was in Nigeria, the guarantees of getting the same type of job i was doing back then with same pay was almost 10%. If i lost my Nigerian job, i might have lost significant pay that's if i ever got another job. That was a big motivation to leave. It was purely economical. I already changed jobs twice and even have higher offers lined up that i am unwilling to take because the current coy gives the perfect balance between work and family I always wanted.

4. Our greatest fears are the kids. With the role I am in and how versatile I am. I would never work a minimum wage job guaranteed for the next forseeable future and even as at now we are building our emergency funds and saving like crazy to provide cushion for any unforseen circumstances. Economy can take a down turn or whatever. So we are getting there.

We prioritize the culture and feel the Aftican culture is amazing. We are afraid we would not be able to give our kids the same outlook and experience we had growing up. We are trying to, but raising kids here is extremely challenging. It takes a community to raise a kid and your kid would learn from the environment that it is okay to cut ties with families, personalize the individual over the community/family in their dealings. The idea of family from an African context is lovely and would want them to imbibe the positive aspects of such growing up. We do a lot of work with their local language and it is a strictly 90% local language in the house but you sure know it can never be like them having a community of speakers close by.


So bottomline. Do your calculations. We are a special case. If your job does not have transferable skills and you would end up doing minimum wage jobs here, i really would rather find a way to do some more training back home and test the waters by applying and see how you place before moving. Also, people who have partners have it much more easier if you can combine finances even if both do minimum wage jobs. You just might do more hours and you need to be level headed and have an end game and exit. You should be fine might just be much more difficult and I believe this is one of the reasons most new immigrants divorce or grow apart in the first few years of moving as this leads to a lot of resentment that eventually breaks the marriage. It ain't easy leaving a cushy job to come do menial jobs just to have a roof over your head.

that's good stuff that you had transferable skills. Is it IT ? but brother even at that the amount you put up there is struggle territory for a family of 4 in America. 6500 a month for a family of four ? When you pay your rent, health insurance, car payment, insurance, feeding for 4, school fees, clothing for 4 etc etc in a month that money is finished. I know single people in America who eArn that amount and say they are struggling, talk less of a family of 4. You can't even be in New York or California ,rent would eat all that money up. I wouldn't give up 700,000 per month in Nigeria to go eArn 6500 a month in America. See brother you got bamboozled by the false equivalent. The false equivalent is the exchange rAte but in America you spend dollars and not naira and for example when you convert what you pay per month for rent in America, it would be what you pay for annual rent in naija. The false equivalent . Never compare salaries between two country because the cost of living is never the same between two country

Thank you.

Because it’s like every time someone in Nigeria is calculating pay for others abroad it’s for $10/hr as if that’s the only earning potential possible. meanwhile I’m here surrounded by Nigerian professionals none of whom makes anything less than 6 figures.

But no they are all doing menial jobs. Anyway what if they are?

Throwaway12345:
I think it is about doing a cost to benefit analysis.

Like finance , a lot of people don't know how to do basic calculation and they tend to get a lot emotional about things.

For us it was an economic decision, and trust me i would be open with numbers. We made a combined N700k inclusive of bonuses and incentives after calculation monthly with a lot of headroom for growth. I was a year away from being a Manager and was in a very sort after role. But doing a cost analysis of what i would earn if we were overseas we noticed we were short paid and dping ourselves a disservice staying back. This was guaranteed, i had a lot of interviews that I was about to be offered something but because of my location which was Nigeria they would not be able to employ me because of their government policies or company policies so it was either we move first then apply or i stay back.

But doing basic maths, even the most junior roles I would do got a take home of almost $4500 per month after tax and this was me with almost 8 years of experience in a multinational. And i had a partner who was making about N100k per month. Even if my partner did the most basic jobs like cashier or admin jobs we were just being pretty blunt and a decided a worst case scenario, they would earn $2000 per month. So that makes it a combined of $6500. We did a calculation of cost of living factoring in our 2kids and we arrived at a monthly spend of about $4000 inclusive of rent and utilities. That gives us a savings room of $2500. If we were in Nigeria even with minimal spending, the max we were able to save a month was N300k.

$2500*500 is N1,250,000 monthly saved in Nigeria. That means we are able to get to our goals *4 faster than staying back with me working even the most junior roles. Our plans are to work for maybe 5 to 6 years or till the kids are probably 12. Come back to Nigeria, enroll them in schools here for the final lap of high school with international schools in Nigeria. Max 2 years. Immerse them in the local culture and morals. Then allow them return back for their University education over here. With this, we would have saved ourselves thousands of dollars they would pay as international students as they would be citizens by then.


Truth is.

1. We even make much more than the $6500 we projected.

2. We really do not miss home that much. We weren't the outgoing ones back in Nigeria and our family is closely knit. With the kids you are already gassed out with their wahala to even think of going up and down. So it's almost same outlook living here.

3. I am far ahead of my peers in Nigeria now . Even though I worked for a multinational. The cost outlay for the cutting edge technologies I work with now is way out of what the Nigerian arm would be able to afford so I would never be able to ever work or experiment with such until after 3 to 5 years when the cost has become more cost effective for the Nigerian arm to deploy. Also please note that even as good as i was in Nigeria, the guarantees of getting the same type of job i was doing back then with same pay was almost 10%. If i lost my Nigerian job, i might have lost significant pay that's if i ever got another job. That was a big motivation to leave. It was purely economical. I already changed jobs twice and even have higher offers lined up that i am unwilling to take because the current coy gives the perfect balance between work and family I always wanted.

4. Our greatest fears are the kids. With the role I am in and how versatile I am. I would never work a minimum wage job guaranteed for the next forseeable future and even as at now we are building our emergency funds and saving like crazy to provide cushion for any unforseen circumstances. Economy can take a down turn or whatever. So we are getting there.

We prioritize the culture and feel the Aftican culture is amazing. We are afraid we would not be able to give our kids the same outlook and experience we had growing up. We are trying to, but raising kids here is extremely challenging. It takes a community to raise a kid and your kid would learn from the environment that it is okay to cut ties with families, personalize the individual over the community/family in their dealings. The idea of family from an African context is lovely and would want them to imbibe the positive aspects of such growing up. We do a lot of work with their local language and it is a strictly 90% local language in the house but you sure know it can never be like them having a community of speakers close by.


So bottomline. Do your calculations. We are a special case. If your job does not have transferable skills and you would end up doing minimum wage jobs here, i really would rather find a way to do some more training back home and test the waters by applying and see how you place before moving. Also, people who have partners have it much more easier if you can combine finances even if both do minimum wage jobs. You just might do more hours and you need to be level headed and have an end game and exit. You should be fine might just be much more difficult and I believe this is one of the reasons most new immigrants divorce or grow apart in the first few years of moving as this leads to a lot of resentment that eventually breaks the marriage. It ain't easy leaving a cushy job to come do menial jobs just to have a roof over your head.

You just love to argue.

Did you read where he still has more money left over at the end of month to put towards his Nigerian dream but he couldn’t have that when he was in Nigeria,

Sigh

. Not everything is an argument. He said his family is doing better financially. You don’t live with them. There’s absolutely no reason to argue with him.

sukkot:
that's good stuff that you had transferable skills. Is it IT ? but brother even at that the amount you put up there is struggle territory for a family of 4 in America. 6500 a month for a family of four ? When you pay your rent, health insurance, car payment, insurance, feeding for 4, school fees, clothing for 4 etc etc in a month that money is finished. I know single people in America who eArn that amount and say they are struggling, talk less of a family of 4. You can't even be in New York or California ,rent would eat all that money up. I wouldn't give up 700,000 per month in Nigeria to go eArn 6500 a month in America. See brother you got bamboozled by the false equivalent. The false equivalent is the exchange rAte but in America you spend dollars and not naira and for example when you convert what you pay per month for rent in America, it would be what you pay for annual rent in naija. The false equivalent . Never compare salaries between two country because the cost of living is never the same between two country

sukkot:
you got jokes hehe. Well you know those same doctors who are running out of Nigeria are crying in the UK that they are being exploited by the British government and being paid very poor and much lower than their white counterparts and they have petitioned the Nigerian government to fight on their behalf. It's a huge case going on right now as we speak. Are you aware of that ? Oh yes we shall keep Nigeria nice and warm for you so you can come back and enjoy it with us hehe

That was a few group of doctors recruited by a particular private trust/hospital outside the NHS.

Don't generalise it to support your argument.

I'm a also a doctor abroad and i haven't told you i want to run back home

cococandy:
You just love to argue.

Did you read where he still has more money left over at the end of month to put towards his Nigerian dream but he couldn’t have that when he was in Nigeria,

Sigh

. Not everything is an argument. He said his family is doing better financially. You don’t live with them. There’s absolutely no reason to argue with him.

that's the beauty of this forum, we challenge each other by arguing respectably. If we all agreed on the same thing it would not be worth coming to. We enjoy the diverse opinions and try to chAllenge it if we see fit lol. But truly I am not a disagreeable person. I just play one on nairaland. He said in Nigeria he manages to save 300k a month. Now you may have more in America for now but when them kids need to get their education paid for because we all know American public schools are gang infested rubbish, when it's time to start paying for that private school in America, it would clean out everything you have saved up. Even people making 400 thousand dollars a year are crying of hardship lmaooo. That's a joke by the wAy but some white people on 400k a yeR do complain of hardship lmao. There was this white guy on 2 million a year. He lost his job and got another for like 400k a year. He said the hardship of living on 400k a year was so unbearable so he jumped out of the window and killed himself lmaoooo

ChybuzzDD:


That was a few group of doctors recruited by a particular trust/hospital outside the NHS.

Don't generalise it to support your argument.

I'm a also a doctor abroad and i haven't told you i want to run back home

well thank you for confirming the bolded

Gerrard59:


So what made a 40 year old man Nigerian man sell off his assets to become a postgraduate student in the UK?

Explain like I am 5. Give examples using Brazilians and Indonesians so we know 40 year old Brazilians and Indonesians who sold their assets in Sao Paulo and Jakarta to become students in the UK.

I am waiting, patiently if you wish to know.

This question answers why you decided to turn this thread to another breeding ground for unruly 'Yes Daddy' and 'Agbado' comments?

@throwaway12345 very good advice.

Mind sharing the country you moved to and what field you are in?

sukkot:
you got jokes hehe. Well you know those same doctors who are running out of Nigeria are crying in the UK that they are being exploited by the British government and being paid very poor and much lower than their white counterparts and they have petitioned the Nigerian government to fight on their behalf. It's a huge case going on right now as we speak. Are you aware of that ? Oh yes we shall keep Nigeria nice and warm for you so you can come back and enjoy it with us hehe

stop lying, no country will tell another country to pay itc citizens so much, yes their are paid minimum becoz most have no traceble experience or reference within UK hence when they start from the minimum within their field and raise up as everyone

I’m not sure you read his post because he was talking specifically about himself and his own personal plans. If you’re not disagreeable, you won’t be arguing with him about what pertains to him specifically as if your generalizations would make a difference in his specific case. I don’t get it.

@bold is this a joke? Obviously Kim Kardashian would be in the streets begging if her income reduced to $1m/month. Does that mean a monthly income of $1m is hardship?
If someone is making 400k a year and they are crying about money, obviously no where on earth will be good enough for them. Definitely not Nigeria will be good for them

sukkot:
that's the beauty of this forum, we challenge each other by arguing respectably. If we all agreed on the same thing it would not be worth coming to. We enjoy the diverse opinions and try to chAllenge it if we see fit lol. But truly I am not a disagreeable person. I just play one on nairaland. He said in Nigeria he manages to save 300k a month. Now you may have more in America for now but when them kids need to get their education paid for because we all know American public schools are gang infested rubbish, when it's time to start paying for that private school in America, it would clean out everything you have saved up. Even people making 400 thousand dollars a year are crying of hardship lmaooo. That's a joke by the wAy but some white people on 400k a yeR do complain of hardship lmao. There was this white guy on 2 million a year. He lost his job and got another for like 400k a year. He said the hardship of living on 400k a year was so unbearable so he jumped out of the window and killed himself lmaoooo

ZIMDRILL:


stop lying, no country will tell another country to pay itc citizens so much, yes their are paid minimum becoz most have no traceble experience or reference within UK hence when they start from the minimum within their field and raise up as everyone

well thats the delusion of these doctors when they petitioned the nigerian government to fight on their behalf. i am simply reporting the news

fortyishcouga:


This question answers why you decided to turn this thread to another breeding ground for unruly 'Yes Daddy' and 'Agbado' comments?

Politics affects people's lives. You cannot shy away from it, and I wonder why some of you people are shying away from it. You cannot elect an incompetent man like Buhari and then whine that the economy is failing while looking for ways to flee. Another issue is that OP is a fan of Tinubu. If he were neutral, I would have had no issues But it is hypocritical for Tinubu preek suckers to lampoon the exodus of Nigerians. I know the average APC supporter is wicked and cruel, but they should not add sheer and unbridled hypocrisy to it.

cococandy:
I’m not sure you read his post because he was talking specifically about himself and his own personal plans. If you’re not disagreeable, you won’t be arguing with him about what pertains to him specifically as if your generalizations would make a difference in his specific case. I don’t get it.

@bold is this a joke? Obviously Kim Kardashian would be in the streets begging if her income reduced to $1m/month. Does that mean a monthly income of $1m is hardship?
If someone is making 400k a year and they are crying about money, obviously no where on earth will be good enough for them. Definitely not Nigeria will be good for them

well I guess ultimately my point is that's too much upheaval for a slight change in living conditions. I mean I would understand if a nigga left a top managerial job in naija that pays 700k a month to come get a Yankee job that pays 20 thousand dollars a month . I can get with that .

sukkot:
well I guess ultimately my point is that's too much upheaval for a slight change in living conditions. I mean I would understand if a nigga left a top managerial job in naija that pays 700k a month to come get a Yankee job that pays 20 thousand dollars a month . I can get with that .

m
Meeting your financial goals 4x faster is not a slight change in living conditions. 🙄

sukkot:
that's good stuff that you had transferable skills. Is it IT ? but brother even at that the amount you put up there is struggle territory for a family of 4 in America. 6500 a month for a family of four ? When you pay your rent, health insurance, car payment, insurance, feeding for 4, school fees, clothing for 4 etc etc in a month that money is finished. I know single people in America who eArn that amount and say they are struggling, talk less of a family of 4. You can't even be in New York or California ,rent would eat all that money up. I wouldn't give up 700,000 per month in Nigeria to go eArn 6500 a month in America. See brother you got bamboozled by the false equivalent. The false equivalent is the exchange rAte but in America you spend dollars and not naira and for example when you convert what you pay per month for rent in America, it would be what you pay for annual rent in naija. The false equivalent . Never compare salaries between two country because the cost of living is never the same between two country

The problem with this your analysis is that you didn't see that we made a projection based off a minimum of $6500 as a worst case scenario. We make way much more than that after landing. By the way $6500 is even much more than enough for most families as long as you aren't indulging in takeouts and unhealthy spending habits. Not interested in following the Joneses. You don't need a $70k Ford truck. A beige coloured sedan is more than enough to take you around. Insane people are paying $1k in car payments on a monthly basis. They are car poor.

$2000 on rent and utilities
$1000 on groceries
$400 on health insurance premiums if your company doesn't provide insurance deductibles.
$500 on a single car payment
$500 on transport fees
$500 on other associated costs.

This is even less than $6500. You can keep doing a back and forth but the reality for a lot is different and there are lots not making up to this and have been able to keep their finances in good stead and saving. The average house hold income in North America is probably $65k which would not even get a $6500 net take home. More like $4500.

You want me to stay back in a N700k job that they could restructure and phase out the department down the line? Now you are back in the job market jostling 250k jobs with new graduates while you are way above the age for their entry level requirements? So you end up with nothing and unemployed?

It is not dem say , dem say. The coy phased out a lot people when they needed to optimize some services. A lot of people with 15years of experience with the firm were let go. 80% got a severance of 6 months and never got back into similar roles. Fact is the probability of getting a similar job paying you same 700k in Nigeria is almost 10%. Ask those who have lost jobs. We see lots on the family forum here lamenting their husbands been out of jobs for years and now depressed etc. You wonder why the banking and most jobs is so toxic even BOs, BMs ,Senior Execs would take the worst forms of verbal abuse and not be able to resign from such jobs and leave? They would never get such remuneration again. That's if they even ever get employed.

cococandy:
m
Meeting your financial goals 4x faster is not a slight change in living conditions. 🙄

he is not doing the calculations correctly. When he starts paying American school fees he would discover he would reach his financial goals in the year 2060

Throwaway12345:


The problem with this your analysis is that you didn't see that we made a projection based off a minimum of $6500 as a worst case scenario. We make way much more than that after landing. By the way $6500 is even much more than enough for most families as long as you aren't indulging in takeouts and unhealthy spending habits. Not interested in following the Joneses. You don't need a $70k Ford truck. A beige coloured sedan is more than enough to take you around. Insane people are paying $1k in car payments on a monthly basis. They are car poor.

$2000 on rent and utilities
$1000 on groceries
$400 on health insurance premiums if your company doesn't provide insurance deductibles.
$500 on a single car payment
$500 on transport fees
$500 on other associated costs.

This is even less than $6500. You can keep doing a back and forth but the reality for a lot is different and there are lots not making up to this and have been able to keep their finances in good stead and saving. The average house hold income in North America is probably $65k which would not even get a $6500 net take home. More like $4500.

You want me to stay back in a N700k job that they could restructure and phase out the department down the line? Now you are back in the job market jostling 250k jobs with new graduates while you are way above the age for their entry level requirements? So you end up with nothing and unemployed?

It is not dem say , dem say. The coy phased out a lot people when they needed to optimize some services. A lot of people with 15years of experience with the firm were let go. 80% got a severance of 6 months and never got back into similar roles. Fact is the probability of getting a similar job paying you same 700k in Nigeria is almost 10%. Ask those who have lost jobs. We see lots on the family forum here lamenting their husbands been out of jobs for years and now depressed etc.

i totally get you bro and understand that we are just bouncing information off each other , no ill intentions . But brother on a side note what is life without takeouts ? Lol. Make we try enjoy this life small oooo. But I totally get your analysis. Cut your coat according to your size. Also it appears you have the type of skill where you could have done remote work from naija or setup your own outfit. It's not always about looking for a job if you get laid off but hey ? Ultimately it's your life and if you are happy with your decision then have at it. But I hope you are aware that the whole global economy is scheming to get awAy from the dollar and put America in the dark and they know America will not go down without a fight so Russia is sorrounding America as we speak with submarine nukes as well as overhead propelled nukes. America is about to fall. World war 3. China and Russia and Iran and India are forming that coalition that is planning to nuke America. Watch the news closely. Don't be caught napping

sukkot:
well thank you for confirming the bolded

The 'bolded' didn't confirm the wrong information you dished out there.

The doctors were never recruited by the British government as you wrongly wrote, but by a private hospital that is not under the NHS.

They were never paid lower than their British counterparts.

Their complaints were only about their long working hours as a result of poor staffing, a phenomenon that is also common in other private hospitals in many other countries.

ChybuzzDD:


The 'bolded' didn't confirm the wrong information you dished out there.

The doctors were never recruited by the British government as you wrongly wrote, but by a private hospital that is not under the NHS.

They were never paid lower than their British counterparts.

Their complaints were only about their long working hours as a result of poor staffing, a phenomenon that is also common in other private hospitals in many other countries.

well they were recruited in britain as per bolded. thanks for the confirmation

1Sharon:


Ofcourse they do. But a seizure doesn't typically kill people.

What could anyone have done abroad for a boy that convulsed and died on the spot

People also die in similar fashion abroad sometimes.

Though we're encouraging people to travel, you guys shouldn't think abroad is heaven or exists in another universe

cococandy:
Thank you.

Because it’s like every time someone in Nigeria is calculating pay for others abroad it’s for $10/hr as if that’s the only earning potential possible. meanwhile I’m here surrounded by Nigerian professionals none of whom makes anything less than 6 figures.

But no they are all doing menial jobs. Anyway what if they are?

I think maybe it is for them to feel a lot better about themselves and maybe as a consolation. Yes a lot of people fudge numbers online and tell lies about their earnings but honestly the crop of young Nigerians moving nowadays are very versatile and well read. The average already has a Bachelor's and multiple years of experience and were maybe at the pinnacle of their careers back home and needed to get more out of their careers so they could retire early and make much more money than back home. Yeah, we understand nowhere is easy and you need to value money based on where you live but a lot of us made this move to make much more, reduce the length of service and retire back to Nigeria to enjoy the labour. You would always reach your saving goals faster than whatever Nigeria can offer at the moment. It is common sense and not a dig at the country.

I have lots of young people here and a former colleague is a VP in one of the biggest American Finance coy here(don't want to drop names) . Got the job straight after landing. Another is a Director in one of the FAANGs. So the idea that a lot of Nigerians are doing $10 jobs is just ridiculous. Yeah there are some struggling which is understandable and definitely they have their exit strategies to either return back to school or just waiting for the right openings but a vast majority are doing extremely well for themselves.

On a weekly basis my LinkedIn is hit by nothing less than 30 people searching and this aren't your regular people. Mostly CTOs , CEOs, Founders of which i get at least one chat me up asking if was willing to take a look at one of their roles that is open. I am sure the CTO of a coy isn't looking at my profile and chatting me up to come offer me $10 per hour or $25 or even $50 per hour

I can even double my my current pay if i took a new role which i am purposely not applying for currently. It would be a great feat to go from a N700k job to 1.5million in Nigeria. It happens but you would be a unicorn. Yes my case might be a lot different and the outlier but from casual conversation it feels like other Nigerian friends are even doing far better which is lovely.

sukkot:
i totally get you bro and understand that we are just bouncing information off each other , no ill intentions . But brother on a side note what is life without takeouts ? Lol. Make we try enjoy this life small oooo. But I totally get your analysis. Cut your coat according to your size. Also it appears you have the type of skill where you could have done remote work from naija or setup your own outfit. It's not always about looking for a job if you get laid off but hey ? Ultimately it's your life and if you are happy with your decision then have at it. But I hope you are aware that the whole global economy is scheming to get awAy from the dollar and put America in the dark and they know America will not go down without a fight so Russia is sorrounding America as we speak with submarine nukes as well as overhead propelled nukes. America is about to fall. World war 3. China and Russia and Iran and India are forming that coalition that is planning to nuke America. Watch the news closely. Don't be caught napping

I've not been paying attention, but hear bits of this..meanwhile Woke America is busy debating if a man has balls or female has clits. Make dollar no drop now sha

with regards to the matter, I think what you're missing here is, the availability of opportunities vary significantly. For example, As a biologist, I can't really do much in this continent aside from teaching. Some will use American standard and tell me now that, I should create the opportunity. But, lets be realistic abeg, Education standard is sub-par, health is sub par, security-bad. You can literally get missing and no one will have a clue of your whereabouts in this country.

now for those saying, bleh, you're making 1.5 million bleh from Nigerian, I want to ask, Is it a Nigerian company employing you? If I had the resources self, I will just be going round, picking the brilliant students and have them japa. Because, if you put gold inside sand, gold fit loss.

ChybuzzDD:


The 'bolded' didn't confirm the wrong information you dished out there.

The doctors were never recruited by the British government as you wrongly wrote, but by a private hospital that is not under the NHS.

They were never paid lower than their British counterparts.

Their complaints were only about their long working hours as a result of poor staffing, a phenomenon that is also common in other private hospitals in many other countries.

One of the doctors who spoke with BBC, Augustine Enekwechi, a Nigerian doctor, who worked at Nuffield Health Leeds Hospital in 2021, said he was approached by NES Healthcare, a private company that specialises in employing doctors from overseas, and was offered visa sponsorship and a potential job.

The doctor said he failed to notice that the NES contract opted him out of the law that protects UK workers from excessive working hours and left him vulnerable to a range of salary deductions.

Enekwechi added that his hours were extreme – on-call 24 hours a day for a week at a time – and that he was unable to leave the hospital grounds. He says working there felt like being in “a prison”.

https://punchng.com/nigerian-doctors-in-uk-lament-exploitation-slave-labour/

sukkot:
i totally get you bro and understand that we are just bouncing information off each other , no ill intentions . But brother on a side note what is life without takeouts ? Lol. Make we try enjoy this life small oooo. But I totally get your analysis. Cut your coat according to your size. Also it appears you have the type of skill where you could have done remote work from naija or setup your own outfit. It's not always about looking for a job if you get laid off but hey ? Ultimately it's your life and if you are happy with your decision then have at it. But I hope you are aware that the whole global economy is scheming to get awAy from the dollar and put America in the dark and they know America will not go down without a fight so Russia is sorrounding America as we speak with submarine nukes as well as overhead propelled nukes. America is about to fall. World war 3. China and Russia and Iran and India are forming that coalition that is planning to nuke America. Watch the news closely. Don't be caught napping

I have someone doing a remote IT job out of Nigeria as a QA. She wants to move to another coy but opportunities of such are limited. So her earnings are capped. Why would i want to limit myself? Also lots of coys are moving towards an Hybrid model. What happens when your company move towards such? Also such contractors are less paid than their counterparts who are in the country of residence. Pay disparity can be as high as double. So even if you are spending less staying in Nigeria. You are still leaving a lot of money on the table. So like i said initially. It is all about the economics and you doing your calculations. Do whatever you can do to maximise your earnings.

kkins25:
I've not been paying attention, but hear bits of this..meanwhile Woke America is busy debating if a man has balls or female has clits. Make dollar no drop now sha

well look on the bright side, if e drop to 100, that 30 million naira in ya akant becomes 300 thousand dollars. you can go to houston and buy 3 houses cash down

sukkot:
well look on the bright side, if e drop to 100, that 30 million naira in ya akant becomes 300 thousand dollars. you can go to houston and buy 3 houses cash down

Throwaway12345:


I have someone doing a remote IT job out of Nigeria as a QA. She wants to move to another coy but opportunities of such are limited. So her earnings are capped. Why would i want to limit myself? Also lots of coys are moving towards an Hybrid model. What happens when your company move towards such? Also such contractors are less paid than their counterparts who are in the country of residence. Pay disparity can be as high as double. So even if you are spending less staying in Nigeria. You are still leaving a lot of money on the table. So like i said initially. It is all about the economics and you doing your calculations. Do whatever you can do to maximise your earnings.

if a chinese man go do wuru wuru run go USA, na Naija man like me go sit down say, i can make Nigeria great again😂😂😂

Throwaway12345:


I have someone doing a remote IT job out of Nigeria as a QA. She wants to move to another coy but opportunities of such are limited. So her earnings are capped. Why would i want to limit myself? Also lots of coys are moving towards an Hybrid model. What happens when your company move towards such? Also such contractors are less paid than their counterparts who are in the country of residence. Pay disparity can be as high as double. So even if you are spending less staying in Nigeria. You are still leaving a lot of money on the table. So like i said initially. It is all about the economics and you doing your calculations. Do whatever you can do to maximise your earnings.

whoop there it is, as they say. more grease to your elbows.

sukkot:
he is not doing the calculations correctly. When he starts paying American school fees he would discover he would reach his financial goals in the year 2060

okay whatever.

That’s how they were calculating for me too but I finished university here with no student loans and don’t owe any education debts.

Two Cousins in Ivy League all expense paid via scholarship. If someone is looking at y’all’s armchair analysis, they’ll never make a move out of fear.

American school fees yen yen. It happens it doesn’t mean there’s no way out.

I have zero doubts that what you’re saying is absolutely true.

You’re probably not even saying everything so they won’t call you a liar. It’s nairaland sha. Everyone is an expert. No need to explain further. Like you said, let everyone do their personal calculations and figure out what will serve them better.

Throwaway12345:


I think maybe it is for them to feel a lot better about themselves and maybe as a consolation. Yes a lot of people fudge numbers online and tell lies about their earnings but honestly the crop of young Nigerians moving nowadays are very versatile and well read. The average already has a Bachelor's and multiple years of experience and were maybe at the pinnacle of their careers back home and needed to get more out of their careers so they could retire early and make much more money than back home. Yeah, we understand nowhere is easy and you need to value money based on where you live but a lot of us made this move to make much more, reduce the length of service and retire back to Nigeria to enjoy the labour. You would always reach your saving goals faster than whatever Nigeria can offer at the moment. It is common sense and not a dig at the country.

I have lots of young people here and a former colleague is a VP in one of the biggest American Finance coy here(don't want to drop names) . Got the job straight after landing. Another is a Director in one of the FAANGs. So the idea that a lot of Nigerians are doing $10 jobs is just ridiculous. Yeah there are some struggling which is understandable and definitely they have their exit strategies to either return back to school or just waiting for the right openings but a vast majority are doing extremely well for themselves.

On a weekly basis my LinkedIn is hit by nothing less than 30 people searching and this aren't your regular people. Mostly CTOs , CEOs, Founders of which i get at least one chat me up asking if was willing to take a look at one of their roles that is open. I am sure the CTO of a coy isn't looking at my profile and chatting me up to come offer me $10 per hour or $25 or even $50 per hour

I can even double my current 6 figure pay if i took a new role which i am purposely not applying for currently. It would be a great feat to go from a N700k job to 1.5million in Nigeria. It happens but you would be a unicorn. Yes my case might be a lot different and the outlier but from casual conversation it feels like other Nigerian friends are even doing far better which is lovely.

cococandy:
okay whatever.

That’s how they were calculating for me too but I finished university here with no student loans and don’t owe any education debts.

Two Cousins in Ivy League all expense paid via scholarship. If someone is looking at y’all’s armchair analysis, they’ll never make a move out of fear.

American school fees yen yen. It happens it doesn’t mean there’s no way out.

hey listen it's all kinds of stories out there. Many are bad and some are good. Honestly though the good success stories are out of America usually. If you are in Europe nothing for you. Most of our people are in Europe

fortyishcouga:
@throwaway12345 very good advice.

Mind sharing the country you moved to and what field you are in?

Canada...IT Project Management was a DevOps engineer before leaving Nigeria.