Ijawkid quoted rev 1:5-6 not rev 3, and i rightly answered him.

Boomark:

Revelation 3:12
King James Version (KJV)
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

So whose words are these and where was he made the statement?

and as i said your questions are answered when you research on the hypostatic union.


Its not good when i alone do the work. Do well to read up on the hypostatic union and tell us if it answers you question.
Peace

ijawkid:
revelation 3:12..
the one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.

i see you copied bookmarks quote, my response to bookmark applys hear too.

......-......

what do u have to say about the above?...

above, u'll see what i said.

still johns words abi?...
your contorted view of God wont stand the test of truths....
HOw you intend to twist the expressions "my GOD " and my Father defies all logic...

i warned earlier about derogatory remarks, d thread hasn't started yet and you are already accusing me of twisting, my explanation is there for all to see and i'm ready to hear how it defies logic. If you can't discuss without accusing me of something then graciously bow out of the discussion.
Thanks.

ijawkid:



what about revelation 1:5-6 where Jesus still calls the almighty "MY GOD" in heaven.....??...



ABI u forget?...



your explanation up there is never supported by the scriptures...only pagan traditions can explain it....

ijawkid this is you again, take care with your accusations

Boomark:

That Jesus is equal and one God with the Father yet the Father is his God, are they not two confusing stories. Unless being a God to someone has no meaning? That is why you should stick with the mystery as it is.

You said God is a NATURE. Do you mean "UNKNOWN NATURE"? I believe this qualifies the mystery in trinity. Because we can't know/understand what we don't know.

bookmark, this is your assumption.

Good evening please,

I have been going through the various contributions (both those said out of sincerity and those that were borne out of sentiments) and really I am struggling to understand why it's so difficult to accept the teachings of the Trinity. I believe the fact that Jesus is God is glaring in sacred scriptures.

Anyways, I do understand why some won't see this truth considering that each individual has his/her looking glass, from which he/she sees and determine what is true to him/her.

Ubenedictus: now please tell me, how one can be truly God and yet be significantly less?

The Father Is The Only True God.

Jesus told us so in John 17:3. Do you disagree with Christ?

Ubenedictus: Ijawkid quoted rev 1:5-6 not rev 3, and i rightly answered him. and as i said your questions are answered when you research on the hypostatic union.


Its not good when i alone do the work. Do well to read up on the hypostatic union and tell us if it answers you question.
Peace

I don't trust in man made hypostatic union when i have it clearly written. If you want to use it, get it here and we will show you how true or faulty it is.

We all have one God, 1Cor 8:5-6. That is why Christ called the Father his God.

Ubenedictus: i see you copied bookmarks quote, my response to bookmark applys hear too.




above, u'll see what i said.

i warned earlier about derogatory remarks, d thread hasn't started yet and you are already accusing me of twisting, my explanation is there for all to see and i'm ready to hear how it defies logic. If you can't discuss without accusing me of something then graciously bow out of the discussion.
Thanks.

iI didnt copy boomarks response...our posts were dropped at different times and coincidentally with d same bible quote.....

you know we've been through this wahala before.....

iI would bow out...let boomark do the job....

We must be careful not to try to understand fully The Most Holy Trinity. That's why it is called a mystery. It cannot be fully understood by we humans.

Make do with what has been revealed and taught.

Thank you.

italo: We must be careful not to try to understand fully The Most Holy Trinity. That's why it is called a mystery. It cannot be fully understood by we humans.

Make do with what has been revealed and taught.

Thank you.

keep the mystery to yourselves...because it seems everything to u guys is always a mystery...including the worship of mummified pieces of human body parts...

ijawkid:

keep the mystery to yourselves...because it seems everything to u guys is always a mystery...including the worship of mummified pieces of human body parts...

Good morning Ij,

You sometimes allude to the fact that people tend to deviate from following the foot steps of Christ; do you honestly believe that Christ would go about picking quarrels in a bid to drive home a point?

Mystery of Rosary
Mystery of Trinity
Mystery of Eucharist


Everything with these people is a mystery, no wonder they walk in darkness, but I believe many of them will be saved and turned from worshiping idols to worshiping GOD.

frosbel: Mystery of Rosary
Mystery of Trinity
Mystery of Eucharist


Everything with these people is a mystery, no wonder they walk in darkness, but I believe many of them will be saved and turned from worshiping idols to worshiping GOD.

Good morning Frosbel,

Is the above meant to assume that there is no mystery in the Christian faith? If this is so, I will be glad if you would reveal to me everything there is to know about God and the angels. Let the following guide your thoughts:

1) Where did God come from?
2) Why does God live forever?
3) Who gave God his powers?
4) If his powers existed as he did, how come he can't lose his powers?
5) When did God create the angels?
6) Are angels all male or female or a mix?

When you are done unraveling the above mysteries I have some further questions for you.

Thank you!

Simply because they hate the Catholic Church, they pretend as if they themselves dont believe in things they dont understand fully. Hypocrites!

Let he who can FULLY understand God cast the first stone and explain him fully to us!

striktlymi:

Good morning Ij,

You sometimes allude to the fact that people tend to deviate from following the foot steps of Christ; do you honestly believe that Christ would go about picking quarrels in a bid to drive home a point?

Naaaaa............

I'm just trying to jolt my men UBE and italo........we know how we dey do ourselves..........

I just can't stand when people say the trinity is a mystery...people form this doctrines,get confused by it and then call it a mystery..........Jesus in clear words explained to us who the only true God is...I don't know why we have to be confused........

First, it was "keep the mystery to yourselves...because it seems everything to u guys is always a mystery...including the worship of mummified pieces of human body parts..."

But now that we are asking them to explain everything about God to us, since they say only Catholics believe in mysteries...

...story don dey change to..."I'm just trying to jolt my men UBE and italo........we know how we dey do ourselves.........."

Abeg o...I no dey follow hypocrite do anything o...

ijawkid:

Naaaaa............

I'm just trying to jolt my men UBE and italo........we know how we dey do ourselves..........

Okay, Cool! I guess I am not up to speed on how you guys catch your trips with each other.

ijawkid:
I just can't stand when people say the trinity is a mystery...people form this doctrines,get confused by it and then call it a mystery..........

But there are a lot of mysteries in Sacred scriptures which was revealed but to this day we do not know what they are.

ijawkid:
Jesus in clear words explained to us who the only true God is...I don't know why we have to be confused........

Those who believe in the Trinity also holds that there is only one God, not three Gods. And when we talk about God we have no choice but be confused and that is why there is faith. When logic and reason fails, there faith comes in.

striktlymi: Good evening please,

I have been going through the various contributions (both those said out of sincerity and those that were borne out of sentiments) and really I am struggling to understand why it's so difficult to accept the teachings of the Trinity. I believe the fact that Jesus is God is glaring in sacred scriptures.

Anyways, I do understand why some won't see this truth considering that each individual has his/her looking glass, from which he/she sees and determine what is true to him/her.

hehehe.

Boomark:

The Father Is The Only True God.

Jesus told us so in John 17:3. Do you disagree with Christ?

does that make the son a fake God?

Boomark:
I don't trust in man made hypostatic union when i have it clearly written. If you want to use it, get it here and we will show you how true or faulty it is.
We all have one God, 1Cor 8:5-6. That is why Christ called the Father his God.

i didn't ask you to trust the "hypostatic union", i asked you to study it and tell us if it doesn't aswer your question.
Is that so hard?

ijawkid:
iI didnt copy boomarks response...our posts were dropped at different times and coincidentally with d same bible quote.....
you know we've been through this wahala before.....
iI would bow out...let boomark do the job....

if u wish to bow out no problem but my point is i'm not an animal to be insulted and called name daily, i don't like it and i certainly don't appreciate it.
I don't like it when "i'm playing chess and my patner is westling.

ijawkid:
iI didnt copy boomarks response...our posts were dropped at different times and coincidentally with d same bible quote.....
you know we've been through this wahala before.....
iI would bow out...let boomark do the job....

if u wish to bow out no problem but my point is i'm not an animal to be insulted and called name daily, i don't like it and i certainly don't appreciate it.
I don't like it when "i'm playing chess and my patner is westling or playing rugby.

italo: We must be careful not to try to understand fully The Most Holy Trinity. That's why it is called a mystery. It cannot be fully understood by we humans.

Make do with what has been revealed and taught.

Thank you.

yeah, we can only teach that which is revealed, diving into d "how" will lead us nowhere.
Peace.

ijawkid:
keep the mystery to yourselves...because it seems everything to u guys is always a mystery... including the worship of mummified pieces of human body parts...

if you want us to keep the mystery to ourselves then why are you still on the thread?

Ubenedictus: if you want us to keep the mystery to ourselves then why are you still on the thread?

...A thread that was, in the first place, addressed to "CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS"...

striktlymi:

Okay, Cool! I guess I am not up to speed on how you guys catch your trips with each other.

striktlymi:
But there are a lot of mysteries in Sacred scriptures which was revealed but to this day we do not know what they are.

Lol....I saw your list up there....one thing you didn't notice is that the truth about God was explicitly explained in d scriptures,not like the other hidden details we have about when d angels were created,if they were created male or female etc...........

Even the name of God was given to us in the scriptures........

If we make do with what the scripture has to say then I see no reason why persons should believe in the trinity
.......

striktlymi:
Those who believe in the Trinity also holds that there is only one God, not three Gods. And when we talk about God we have no choice but be confused and that is why there is faith. When logic and reason fails, there faith comes in.

Those who hold on to the trinity and still think they believe in God being one are just running around in circles.........

1 corinthians 8:5-6 solves the problem.......

I'm happy you are also questioning the inconsistencies of the 3nity dogma.......

frosbel: Mystery of Rosary
Mystery of Trinity
Mystery of Eucharist


Everything with these people is a mystery, no wonder they walk in darkness, but I believe many of them will be saved and turned from worshiping idols to worshiping GOD.

i once pasted a thread on "mystery as an overabundance of sense and truth" take a look
https://www.nairaland.com/1110766/god-not-absurd-mystery-simply

Ubenedictus: if u wish to bow out no problem but my point is i'm not an animal to be insulted and called name daily, i don't like it and i certainly don't appreciate it.
I don't like it when "i'm playing chess and my patner is westling or playing rugby.

......

How you take knw say I like rugby??........

Oya sorry na.......no vex......but I didn't insult you.......sorry my bro......I don zip my mouth....

ijawkid:
Naaaaa............
I'm just trying to jolt my men UBE and italo........we know how we dey do ourselves..........

I just can't stand when people say the trinity is a mystery...people form this doctrines,get confused by it and then call it a mystery..........Jesus in clear words explained to us who the only true God is...I don't know why we have to be confused........

i no sabi how we dey do am before oh, everyday we meet on nl you have always found a way to tag me with and uncharitable and insultive title or blackmail my believes using emotional arguement.
I have made it clear to you i don't appreciate it and i look forward to the day you'll stop it.
Peace.

Ubenedictus: does that make the son a fake God?

When Jesus said only the Father is GOOD and be called GOOD,does it mean the rest of us from Jesus are BAD??......

ijawkid:

Lol....I saw your list up there....one thing you didn't notice is that the truth about God was explicitly explained in d scriptures,not like the other hidden details we have about when d angels were created,if they were created male or female etc...........

Even the name of God was given to us in the scriptures........

If we make do with what the scripture has to say then I see no reason why persons should believe in the trinity
.......


Those who hold on to the trinity and still think they believe in God being one are just running around in circles.........

1 corinthians 8:5-6 solves the problem.......

I'm happy you are also questioning the inconsistencies of the 3nity dogma.......

interestingly you haven't been able to prove any inconsistency. I put it to everyone on the thread, there is no untruth in the teaching of one God in 3 persons and there is nothing unscriptural there.

Ubenedictus: i no sabi how we dey do am before oh, everyday we meet on nl you have always found a way to tag me with and uncharitable and insultive title or blackmail my believes using emotional arguement.
I have made it clear to you i don't appreciate it and i look forward to the day you'll stop it.
Peace.

Cheii...oya sorry my brother...I go repent soon...........I would never insult you.....all I've been doing is compare your beliefs with the scriptures........